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by blurred
Mon Oct 21, 2013 4:25 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: FSF Awards - your nominations wanted
Replies: 5
Views: 621

FSF Awards - your nominations wanted

The Football Supporters’ Federation awards are back for their third year, and will be held on 16th December at the Emirates stadium. We’re after nominations from fans of all clubs across a range of categories detailed below. Categories: * Away Day of the Year * Blogger of the Year * Commentator of t...
by blurred
Wed Jan 09, 2013 12:34 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Liverpool laughing stocks?
Replies: 1972
Views: 87199

Re: Liverpool laughing stocks?

Would we lose anything if handball became a strict liability offence? it would certainly make things easier! and it would stop wanky commentators declaring that "the rules say hand-to-ball not ball-to-hand" - which they manifestly do not! I think we would. It would be a full back's nightmare for in...
by blurred
Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:43 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Safe standing
Replies: 3
Views: 684

Safe standing

We realise that this is an emotive subject for some supporters, but hope that any debate can be constructive and factual, and respectful of all views. For more on some of the legalities, myths and facts behind safe standing, please visit our website. The Football Supporters' Federation's campaign fo...
by blurred
Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:50 am
Forum: The Trotters
Topic: Away matchgoing fans' views sought
Replies: 2
Views: 829

Away matchgoing fans' views sought

The Football Supporters' Federation is undertaking a season-long project to measure the experience of the away fan. We would like to assemble the thoughts and experiences of fans in the Premier League and Championship throughout the season, the ultimate aim of which is to improve the lot of the trav...
by blurred
Fri Sep 14, 2012 5:02 pm
Forum: General Banter
Topic: This Alps' killings story
Replies: 18
Views: 587

Re: This Alps' killings story

Indeed, all thoughts that she makes a recovery. It's crazy that the four-year old was in the car, hiding under her mother's legs, when the police got there. But they didn't disturb the scene and only found her eight hours later. jfc. It concerned me this. I would assume when coming across a scene l...
by blurred
Fri Sep 14, 2012 3:07 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

The last police chief was experienced and he wouldn't have allowed it to happen! How can that be stated as a truth? Because Duckenfield didn't implement the same safety measures that commanders had at previous years' games, namely the cordons around the ground to filter arrivals, the fact that kick...
by blurred
Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:38 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

His asking "partly" FFS.. Your constant deflections are probably answering the question for him tbh. Point out in the conclusions of the Taylor Report, or the Independent Hillsborough Panel Report, where it says fans were partly to blame then. Go on. Or CAPSLOCK can do it. Or anyone. Why do you pre...
by blurred
Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:50 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

We're now getting into semantics. Blame/Culpability/Responsibility are all the same thing. No, I don't think Liverpool fans were to blame. No, I don't think they were culpable. No, I don't think they were responsible for what happened. Replace Liverpool fans with Tottenham fans in 1981. Were they to...
by blurred
Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:31 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

To be honest, seeing as the wannabe scouser won't answer the question, you may as well answer for him, too Do you accept the Liverpool fans should carry some blame for what happened A simple yes or no will suffice I asked whether by 'played a part' you meant 'were culpable' - you didn't reply. To a...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:25 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

A couple of good articles from behind the paywall Oliver Kay It should not have taken the world almost a quarter of a century to be shocked, disgusted and appalled by what happened at Hillsborough on April 15, 1989. A large part of the truth — the real truth, that is, about an unsafe stadium, about ...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 1:10 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

But in all your responses, you seem to indicate that the Liverpool supporters were as sheep, blindly following, not a dash of common sense just being herded without any sense of individual thought. I contend that you are, in fact, doing them a disservice by this. Supporters descending the tunnel in...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:41 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

truewhite15 wrote:But surely those people in the tunnel must have seen the potential trouble ahead?
It was unlit, and it was (too) steep. You couldn't see what was ahead, or reasonably have any expectation that the pen was already well above its capacity.
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:58 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

Thanks. And fair enough, the police should have closed off the access to pens 3 and 4. It does seem, however, odd that the fans kept pouring into those centre pens of their own accord, regardless of the architectural design of the Leppings Lane End. The "quotes" are all from the Taylor Report. Ther...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:37 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

I imagine, AND YES THIS IS ALL CONJECTURE that at the time the officers in charge were indecisive and slow to react leading to panic, a great mistake and that in turn lead to ..well the rest is history. It's not conjecture, it's a matter of record. David Duckenfield, the (inexperienced) match comma...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:34 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

Forgive me for wading into this discussion. I've sorta skim-read the reports, my knowledge on the subject is pretty sparse though. I do have one question. The problem, as it were, were that too many people were getting into the centre pens, am I right? So much so that a crush was developing OUTSIDE...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:09 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

What is your purpose then? Because I've been here for years (longer than you, as it happens), and have posted on a number of topics, met a number of good people and continue to dip into the community and chat about whatever when my time allows. Regardless of what has been released, I still believe ...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:51 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

blurred why are dodging answering the questions put to you? Which one(s)? CAPSLOCK asked me something, I responded and he's yet to reply to that. If I've missed anything else point it out. I suggest that you read back then My apologies :hang: why are you here? why not go to some doom mongering scou...
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:12 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

jaffka wrote:blurred why are dodging answering the questions put to you?
Which one(s)? CAPSLOCK asked me something, I responded and he's yet to reply to that. If I've missed anything else point it out.
by blurred
Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:32 am
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

The Telegraph reports thusly: It has long been established that the police's loss of control, and specifically the decision to open an exit gate and allow Liverpool fans into an already over-crowded central terrace, caused the disaster. In the aftermath, however, police blamed drunk and ticketless ...
by blurred
Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:18 pm
Forum: Other Footy
Topic: Hillsborough Disaster
Replies: 310
Views: 14229

Re: Hillsborough Disaster

Good luck with that