Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:16 pm
Tom Ince of Blackpool is absolutely superb. Great to watch, too. Big move for him next season surely.
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Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:31 pm
Blackpool being given a back henry by Huddersfield, 2-1 just before half time
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:52 pm
3-1 Huddersfield.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:02 pm
Championship showing itself as a league where anyone can beat anyone at any time yet again. A season-long dogfight this!
I wonder how many "doubles" will be done by one team over another over the course of the campaign
I wonder how many "doubles" will be done by one team over another over the course of the campaign
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:04 pm
that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:39 pm
Aye - so I suppose the only measure you have is points and league position...jaffka wrote:that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Must do better.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:42 pm
which is at the end of the season, for whoever is in charge...Worthy4England wrote:Aye - so I suppose the only measure you have is points and league position...jaffka wrote:that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Must do better.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:00 pm
No, you can measure them weekly.jaffka wrote:which is at the end of the season, for whoever is in charge...Worthy4England wrote:Aye - so I suppose the only measure you have is points and league position...jaffka wrote:that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Must do better.
I see why you didn't spot we were going down last season now.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:03 pm
so we change manager on a how often basis?Worthy4England wrote:No, you can measure them weekly.jaffka wrote:which is at the end of the season, for whoever is in charge...Worthy4England wrote:Aye - so I suppose the only measure you have is points and league position...jaffka wrote:that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Must do better.
I see why you didn't spot we were going down last season now.
last season is history, lets stay in the present
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:09 pm
Generally as often as you think the clueless pillock in charge is going to take you down, unless:jaffka wrote:so we change manager on a how often basis?Worthy4England wrote:No, you can measure them weekly.jaffka wrote:which is at the end of the season, for whoever is in charge...Worthy4England wrote:Aye - so I suppose the only measure you have is points and league position...jaffka wrote:that’s it judging who has beat who and by how much is totally irrelevant in this league
Must do better.
I see why you didn't spot we were going down last season now.
last season is history, lets stay in the present
1) You're clueless Indian Chicken Farmers
2) Us.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:09 pm
every time we lose - and sometimes when we win but decide that's bad too....jaffka wrote: so we change manager on a how often basis?
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:40 pm
pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:42 pm
Different circumstances financially.jaffka wrote:pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:43 pm
Ah, now you have lost me as the goal posts are being moved.Worthy4England wrote:Different circumstances financially.jaffka wrote:pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:44 pm
Yes, you moved them when you threw a different manager into the mix.jaffka wrote:Ah, now you have lost me as the goal posts are being moved.Worthy4England wrote:Different circumstances financially.jaffka wrote:pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
On the same principle as you asked the question, we probably wouldn't have sacked Megson either...
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:57 pm
I moved themWorthy4England wrote:Yes, you moved them when you threw a different manager into the mix.jaffka wrote:Ah, now you have lost me as the goal posts are being moved.Worthy4England wrote:Different circumstances financially.jaffka wrote:pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
On the same principle as you asked the question, we probably wouldn't have sacked Megson either...
looks like I need the rules of engagement then So current points and position only relates to the current manager?
Just trying to clarify, am sure that you understand
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:58 pm
Not sure I do to be honest. Our current situation can only relate to our current manager, as we have no other manager that's currently managing us...jaffka wrote:I moved themWorthy4England wrote:Yes, you moved them when you threw a different manager into the mix.jaffka wrote:Ah, now you have lost me as the goal posts are being moved.Worthy4England wrote:Different circumstances financially.jaffka wrote:pretty sure that this has been mentioned before but here we go:
should Alladyce have been sacked during his reign?
On the same principle as you asked the question, we probably wouldn't have sacked Megson either...
So current points and position only relates to the current manager?
Just trying to clarify, am sure that you understand
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:15 am
Yes we know that but judging on a game to game basis where did you stand with previous managers?
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:25 am
Jaffka, I'm confused as to what you're saying. Are you saying you should only sack a manager at the end of a failed season?
Are you saying that you only take the last result into consideration?
You brought Allardyce up, presumably referring to the 6/5 game losing streaks we suffered under him a couple of times.
However, I'm confused as to whether you're arguing taking a long term view or a short term one.
With Allardyce when we had bad spells, we had always overperformed previously. So if you took any sort of a sensible view you'd have still been delighted where we were coming out of those bad spells.
I'm not quite sure how you judge a manager on anything other than a combination of a) his historical performance at your club and b) his current performance at your club.
And the two are very much interlinked and crucial in making an assessment.
Allardyce as an example, first full season, promotion, second full season kept in the premiership, third full season stayed up, fourth full season - 8th in the top flight, fifth full season - 6th etc etc......
There was no point where Allardyce did anything other than overperform in terms of results. He may have ripped the club apart on leaving, and left us high and dry, but in terms of sacking, he never ever came close.
Are you saying that you only take the last result into consideration?
You brought Allardyce up, presumably referring to the 6/5 game losing streaks we suffered under him a couple of times.
However, I'm confused as to whether you're arguing taking a long term view or a short term one.
With Allardyce when we had bad spells, we had always overperformed previously. So if you took any sort of a sensible view you'd have still been delighted where we were coming out of those bad spells.
I'm not quite sure how you judge a manager on anything other than a combination of a) his historical performance at your club and b) his current performance at your club.
And the two are very much interlinked and crucial in making an assessment.
Allardyce as an example, first full season, promotion, second full season kept in the premiership, third full season stayed up, fourth full season - 8th in the top flight, fifth full season - 6th etc etc......
There was no point where Allardyce did anything other than overperform in terms of results. He may have ripped the club apart on leaving, and left us high and dry, but in terms of sacking, he never ever came close.
Re: Tonight's Football
Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:18 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:Jaffka, I'm confused as to what you're saying. Are you saying you should only sack a manager at the end of a failed season?no
Are you saying that you only take the last result into consideration?no
You brought Allardyce up, presumably referring to the 6/5 game losing streaks we suffered under him a couple of times.not me saying that but if results are judged on a weekly basis then it must be
However, I'm confused as to whether you're arguing taking a long term view or a short term one.I'm not saying anything
With Allardyce when we had bad spells, we had always overperformed previously. So if you took any sort of a sensible view you'd have still been delighted where we were coming out of those bad spells.of course, I believe that Alladrdyce was great for us
I'm not quite sure how you judge a manager on anything other than a combination of a) his historical performance at your club and b) his current performance at your club.as fans we do but those in charge of the club take other consideration into account, also for a bit of inside information players can be selected by some managers not just on their footballing skills but on the other external stuff that they get involved in
And the two are very much interlinked and crucial in making an assessment.
Allardyce as an example, first full season, promotion, second full season kept in the premiership, third full season stayed up, fourth full season - 8th in the top flight, fifth full season - 6th etc etc......
There was no point where Allardyce did anything other than overperform in terms of results. He may have ripped the club apart on leaving, and left us high and dry, but in terms of sacking, he never ever came close.which is right and he never should or would have, although I think that at the start of the third season when we started slow there were some mummerings