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I never said we should have signed him. I'd certainly hope we are targeting much more established and recognised players.
Well if you want to be picky, DSB, I'm not sure an indeterminate "we" is much different from an indeterminate "people." Do you not think there's probably a difference between the view of how successful Trafford and Bradley's stint with us was, compared to Shola, Mbete and Beck?Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:25 pmWorthy, I don't think there's such a thing as a (singular) "view we have/had".Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:52 pmI think there's a difference between the view we have of Bradley and Trafford, and the view we had of Shola, Mbete and Beck.
Although when we signed Trafford, who had a similar number of games as Balazigi but a league higher (at Accy), pretty much everyone from Bertie to Brommers worried that an inexperienced goalkeeper wasn't what we needed.
When we signed Bradley, very many people wondered how this kid with absolutely zero league experience would be anywhere near as good as Fossey.
But he was, so when we got his mate Beck, we had reason to be cheerful.
When we got Shola, who was described as the most exciting United kid reasonably available, people had reason to hope for another success story.
Mbete was a rush signing to cover Aimson departure & Johnston injury, a double absence which was expected by some to make us sieve-leaky.
Maybe the thing we've learnt is to expect the opposite of expectations.
I do think that different people have different views on how successful transfers were. I also think that different people have different views when those transfers go through as to how successful they'll be. That's all.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:03 pmDo you not think there's probably a difference between the view of how successful Trafford and Bradley's stint with us was, compared to Shola, Mbete and Beck?
I'll stick with my rough estimate, that more people will likely have viewed Trafford/Bradley as more successful than Shortire, Beck and Mbete.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:30 pmI do think that different people have different views on how successful transfers were. I also think that different people have different views when those transfers go through as to how successful they'll be. That's all.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:03 pmDo you not think there's probably a difference between the view of how successful Trafford and Bradley's stint with us was, compared to Shola, Mbete and Beck?
Which is fair - and I'll stick with my memories that many a naysayer wondered why the hell we were hiring Traf and Brad...Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:43 pmI'll stick with my rough estimate, that more people will likely have viewed Trafford/Bradley as more successful than Shortire, Beck and Mbete.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:30 pmI do think that different people have different views on how successful transfers were. I also think that different people have different views when those transfers go through as to how successful they'll be. That's all.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:03 pmDo you not think there's probably a difference between the view of how successful Trafford and Bradley's stint with us was, compared to Shola, Mbete and Beck?
TBF, he did.....Worthy4England wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:12 pmI think my comments on Traff were something like "if he helps stop us leaking 1.6 goals a game, that'll do for me!" Damning with faint praise.
I was particularly enamoured of their "Another Thursday passes" thread. I think maybe we should start doing days of the week.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:44 pmBarnsley have had to cancel a friendly due to lack of players. Interesting times for them.
Despite having a lot of issues off the pitch, they are doing some very good business.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:57 pmLooks like Reading have a permanent deal to sign Yernited kid Charlie Savage, son of a knobhead
Derby County boss Paul Warne wants to strengthen his attacking options ahead of the new League One campaign. The Rams lost David McGoldrick, their top scorer from last season, to Notts County, but have since brought in Rotherham striker Conor Washington. The Northern Ireland international is one of Derby's seven summer signings, but is the only striker among them.
"I would like a nine and a number 10 really, but I'm not trying to be greedy," Warne told BBC Radio Derby. "I think we've got it potentially in our budget to bring in at least another one or two, or spread it more thin and go three, but I think I'd be happy with two good ones."
Warne said his squad is "possibly two or three short", but believes he will be unable to reinvest the funds from the sale of midfielder Jason Knight in a new forward.
"If we're getting a player in that's better than the ones that we've got out here, who's currently under contract, then you're going to do well to get a number nine here for £200,000," he said. "So it's either a free or a loan, they're really our options."
Washington is yet to play in Derby's pre-season programme as he recovers from knee surgery in April, but is expected to return next week along with Australia international left-back Callum Elder.
Warne confirmed midfielder Louie Sibley's recovery from a calf problem was further away, while new signing Kane Wilson is a "long way off fitness" after an injury-plagued 2022-23 season.
"We obviously need another attacker, I personally would like another wing-back," Warne added. "I think Thommo (midfielder Liam Thompson) has done brilliantly at left wing-back, but Kane is a long way off fitness so we need to get him fit and we need to get Callum back.
"When everyone's fit it doesn't look like you've got any issues, but you don't have many games during the season where you've got 20 players fit, so I think we could do with another one there."
Very interesting.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 3:35 pmwhile new signing Kane Wilson is a "long way off fitness" after an injury-plagued 2022-23 season.
Terry Taylor too.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:00 pmAnother name I’ve suggested before heads to(wards) a rival..,
I might get round to analysing "rival" windows over the next fortnight (still trawling for Big Club Potentials) but yeah, they're doing well. Pompey seem to have enrolled a few too, although they may have gone more quantity than quality.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:19 pmTerry Taylor too.
Charlton are currently having the best transfer window, I think.
Yeah, it's the quality of Charlton's additions that stand out.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:31 pmI might get round to analysing "rival" windows over the next fortnight (still trawling for Big Club Potentials) but yeah, they're doing well. Pompey seem to have enrolled a few too, although they may have gone more quantity than quality.
