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2011 - Wenger – telling the press about Southampton's Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain: "We're trying. We need an agreement with Southampton and an agreement with the player, and we try as hard as we can because I like him."

2008: Wenger: "I don't want to hear Madrid come out and say they want this Arsenal player and Barcelona say they want that one. Saying it in a newspaper is disrespectful – it's like: 'We walk all over everybody and we don't care.' But nothing will ever be done."

Lofthouse Lower wrote:I don't think it was the obscenity that is the problem - from a bloke on the radio who was claiming that a source who heard the exchange told him that Fabregas was going on asking the referee 'if he had been bought by Everton'.

Detestable little scrote.

Everton manager David Moyes refused to reveal what the Arsenal captain said as the players left the pitch at half-time, only saying Fabregas would have been sent off had he made the comments on the pitch.

However, it is alleged the Spaniard shouted in the direction of the officials: 'How much have you been paid?' He then allegedly accused an opponent of cheating.

Tempers were frayed in the first half when Louis Saha fired Everton into the lead with a controversial goal that Moyes agreed should have been ruled out for offside.

Lofthouse Lower wrote:Dirty, despicable ratboy shite

However, it is alleged the Spaniard shouted in the direction of the officials: 'How much have you been paid?' He then allegedly accused an opponent of cheating.

thebish wrote:Heard Wenger today commenting...

1. he says it is a "witch-hunt" against Fabregas. Hmmmm, one manager complaining against a player's alleged conduct is NOT by any stretch of the imagination a "witch-hunt"

2. he starts by saying that Fabregas said nothing to the referee..... he then says that Moyes should not repeat things that are said in the tunnel in the heat of the moment..

hmmmm... sounds like you tripped urself up a bit there Arsene...

thebish wrote:now, I've always maintained Fabregas is an odious little arrogant wankstain at the best of times...

but - Moyes should either tell us what he is talking about - even an edited version if it contains unrepeatable obscenities - or, shut up...

and - Wenger - you WON the game - it's not the time for whining on about thinking a goal might have been offside - learn to win with grace - else everyone outside Goonerland will always think you are a tw*t.

Everton boss David Moyes has hit back at Arsene Wenger over incidents during Tuesday's Premier League game.

Wenger criticised Moyes for going public over comments he "pretends to have heard" made by Cesc Fabregas in the tunnel at half-time.

But Moyes said: "Cesc questioned Everton's integrity by suggesting we had possibly given money to the ref.

"That's why I felt if I or any player had said that, I think it would have warranted a sending off."

Arsenal skipper Fabregas was angered by Everton striker Louis Saha's 24th-minute goal, which both managers later agreed had been scored from an offside position.

Arsenal trailed 1-0 at the interval, and Moyes claimed Fabregas then confronted referee Lee Mason.

It wasn't a rant, it wasn't a rave like I heard a lot of people saying. It was just straight to the point and I felt it was out of order and I felt he deserved to be sent off

Moyes on Fabregas

"In doing that, he also questioned the integrity of the referees," claimed the Toffees boss.

"Arsene seems to think that I haven't seen or heard it, but you have to decide who you believe - David Moyes or Arsene Wenger - and I'm happy for people to make their own mind up on that."

Despite Moyes's very public anger over the incident, he said he would not have subsequently provided any information to the Football Association if requested.

"If Cesc gets sent off at half-time it would certainly have given us a chance," he said. "But the game has gone now, I can't do anything about the game."

Moyes also claimed Fabregas "never swore once" and had been "very calm, very calculated" when making his comments.

"It wasn't a rant, it wasn't a rave like I heard a lot of people saying," said Moyes.

"It was just straight to the point and I felt it was out of order and I felt he deserved to be sent off."

Wenger wrote:"It was a good game with a lot of incidents and turning points, [but] the sending off was detrimental to us and some of the decisions went against us today. We were under pressure and we had problems to finish in the second half. It's unpredictable sometimes, and it became difficult. At 4-1 we panicked a bit. But we were a little bit unlucky too. You have to take it on the chin and look at the positives. I didn't see the sending off very well. But Barton should have been sent off too. We dropped two points, for sure."

thebish wrote:blindness returns.... (or not?)

Wenger wrote:"It was a good game with a lot of incidents and turning points, [but] the sending off was detrimental to us and some of the decisions went against us today. We were under pressure and we had problems to finish in the second half. It's unpredictable sometimes, and it became difficult. At 4-1 we panicked a bit. But we were a little bit unlucky too. You have to take it on the chin and look at the positives. I didn't see the sending off very well. But Barton should have been sent off too. We dropped two points, for sure."

Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere hit out at referee Phil Dowd in an angry tweet after his team threw away a 4-0 lead to draw at Newcastle.

"Inconsistent refereeing needs to stop, it's killing the game," said Wilshere, who later removed the message.