Liverpool laughing stocks?

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Liverpool laughing stocks?

Post by mullayo » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:38 am

In January, the Scouse sold Torres for $50m. Brilliant bit of business, but 2hrs of desperate panic buying later they've burned $57m on a ponytailed Pike and an oompa loompa.

This window the Bindippers have dug deep and come up with $20m for a Mackem trainee - that pays for the whole Sunderland youth programme for the next two decades. Blackburn are queuing up to offload Phil Jones for Monopoly money as well. We should set a $15m pricetag on Mark Davies or Muamba. I find it laughable. It's abysmal business.

Don't get me wrong. They are decent young players but they're paying 3 or 4 times what they're worth. They will all expect a commensurate salary. This inflates the player's (all players actually) head with the wrong message by the time they are 25 they will have a demand $200k plus or leave on a free.

Now the Scouse will get on their high horses about how talented and young and English they are... but you aren't scouting these players at a lower level (youth or Championship) you're grabbing established Premier League player and paying through the nose for it. You're creating under-pressure primadonnas. Tottenham used to have a fetish for young English players but at least they snared them from lower levels and younger and offloaded them quickly and quietly when they didn't work out. The inflated wages you will be forced to pay will leave you stuck with the likes of Robinho and Bellamy and on the books. Good luck offloading them. None of the big teams will want your local castoffs and none of the others can afford them. The media will be all over it.

Where's the money coming from? Whose the Sheik of Scouse? We laughed - quite rightly - at Citeh, but at least they bought an international who's who of World Cup stars. Liverpool's spending the same money on your neighbours boy.
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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:33 am

It's funnier to me that someone somewhere has valued N'Gog at circa £7m. Wouldn't pay 7p for him.

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Post by David Lee's Hair » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:41 am

Who's the Oompa Loompa?
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:05 am

David Lee's Hair wrote:Who's the Oompa Loompa?
I have him down as Freddie Mercury, missen.

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Post by David Lee's Hair » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:29 am

Now you see thats what I thought, and in that case, I don't really think its a humourous signing, the lad did well... I thought he'd be Forlan mk2, but he wasn't....

£35m for Carroll then I grant you that was a panick buy, but Suarez... decent signing him... scored more goals than your man Torres as well..
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Post by mullayo » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:04 pm

Didn't Carroll score more goals than Torres? In the two games he played.

Suarez is a decent signing - for $5m not $22m. That's $.5m per inch.

That's my point. They are overpaying to a ludicrous extent.
67kg Henderson looks like an even more effete Scott Parker or the guy from Gimme, Gimme, Gimme. I can't see him cutting it in the league.
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Post by mullayo » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:05 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
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That is a good call!
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:08 pm

Suarez is an excellent, excellent footballer
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Post by David Lee's Hair » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:08 pm

boltonboris wrote:Suarez is an excellent, excellent footballer
Agreed, and I don't think £22m is that bad for him given the market rated for strikers...
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Post by seanworth » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:08 pm

I think Suarez was a good buy. Carroll? Way overpriced in my opinion, and not sure if his style is suited to Liverpool. I guess we will find out.

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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:17 pm

United spending £16m on Jones from the Dingles :doh: another one overvalued by roughly £10m

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Post by David Lee's Hair » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:20 pm

mullayo wrote:Suarez is a decent signing - for $5m not $22m. That's $.5m per inch.

That's my point. They are overpaying to a ludicrous extent.
67kg Henderson looks like an even more effete Scott Parker or the guy from Gimme, Gimme, Gimme. I can't see him cutting it in the league.
So he's not worth £22m because he's short???

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Post by jmjhb » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:49 pm

Lofthouse Lower wrote:United spending £16m on Jones from the Dingles :doh: another one overvalued by roughly £10m
I'd rather have Jones than Cahill.

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Post by Lofthouse Lower » Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:50 pm

Jones looks good, but £16m good? No chance.

Bet he's not played 50 Prem games yet

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Post by jmjhb » Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:03 pm

34 according to Wiki.

Could be good for England that the future central defensive partnership plays together at club level as well.

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Post by bobo the clown » Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:03 pm

The bin-dippers got themselves into financial hot-water. The owners were then robbed (par for the course, really) of their club .... which I don't think is over by any means btw.

Now, tho the Torres money was vg, they had been offered £40m plus Sturridge. Maybe the 'oompah-lumpah' means they felt they didn't need him.

To be fair Suarez is a good buy.

Meanwhile they are linked with every £15-25m player who the paspers can spell. Much may be no more than paper talk, but watching them is like seeing someone who's had their credit card cleared simply go out on an almighty spending spree.

Their budgetting presumes European exploits. This will simply end in tears.

Where's that Benitez thread when you want it ?
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Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:18 pm

The Henderson deal just beggars belief imo and doesn't bode well for the rest of the transfer window if this is the going rate for here today, gone tomorrow footballers.
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Post by mullayo » Thu Jun 09, 2011 12:03 am

bobo the clown wrote: To be fair Suarez is a good buy.

Meanwhile they are linked with every £15-25m player who the paspers can spell. Much may be no more than paper talk, but watching them is like seeing someone who's had their credit card cleared simply go out on an almighty spending spree.

Their budgeting presumes European exploits. This will simply end in tears.
Agree with all the above. Point of the thread really.

I like Suarez but he was a $22m gamble, which seems to be how Liverpool roll now. I thought it was bad enough when Benitez was there but it's gotten worse.

Which is good for us in a way, but I fear the whole market might be tainted with every Tom, Dick and Jordan being priced out of it.

The 400k we spent on Eaves is about right for the risk, not the $20m on Jordan or $15m on Jones. Jones is getting a $40,000pw contract, Eaves is on chickenfeed. We can be patient with Eaves with no pressure on him. The first f-up Jones makes will gleefully be pounced upon by every tabloid in the world.
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Re: Liverpool laughing stocks?

Post by James B » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:58 pm

citing suarez as a bad signing :mrgreen:

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Re: Liverpool laughing stocks?

Post by Athers » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:00 pm

Don't get it - Moneyball/Sabrmetrics is about finding value in players by looking at things differently to the norm. Liverpool are just going out and overpaying for the most overpriced footballers in the world.

Or are they just trusting their manager like a good board, depends which way you look at it.
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