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Re: Hodgson....

Post by Harry Genshaw » Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:19 pm

Woys the cheap option but if they hired the other bloke there's always a chance he may get caught with his fingers in the till.

It's all irrelevant anyway, the players aren't up to it
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Re: Hodgson....

Post by Prufrock » Tue May 01, 2012 12:23 am

If a bloke who has won the league title at every single club he has been at can't make 'em good, maybe the players aren't up to it.

Plus, if we couldn't keep the ball under Capello, we'd have no fecking chance under Droopy. Woy better than Redknapp, IMO, but not good enough, not being a magician.
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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue May 01, 2012 3:21 pm

Hopefully he's been brought in for more than his ability to manage the first team. He's supposedly very technically minded, perhaps he might be the man to bring coaching at all levels up to scratch? Or at least play a part.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 01, 2012 3:30 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Hopefully he's been brought in for more than his ability to manage the first team. He's supposedly very technically minded, perhaps he might be the man to bring coaching at all levels up to scratch? Or at least play a part.
Indeed. Apparently he'll play a key role in the Burton development.
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Post by boltonboris » Tue May 01, 2012 3:36 pm

Good. That dinosaur Brooking doesn't seem to have exactly excelled in that role..

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Re: Hodgson....

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 01, 2012 3:52 pm

I'm not sure the England manager should be involved in development.

For me...

England manager - manages the team and picks the squad (probably could be a part time role).

Then we need someone with different skills in a development role.

And a good full time scouting and coaching team!

IMHO.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue May 01, 2012 3:56 pm

Yes, yes, but who has the expertise to set up such a specialist system?
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Post by boltonboris » Tue May 01, 2012 3:58 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm not sure the England manager should be involved in development.

For me...

England manager - manages the team and picks the squad (probably could be a part time role).

Then we need someone with different skills in a development role.

And a good full time scouting and coaching team!

IMHO.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue May 01, 2012 4:00 pm

Four-year contract! :shock:
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Post by blurred » Tue May 01, 2012 4:16 pm

Can't help but see this as a retrograde step for England, but then the obsession with having an English manager rather than the right manager seemed odd to me, so it was never going to end well.

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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Tue May 01, 2012 5:10 pm

Good coach woy solid selection doomed to failure and sabbotage by press and fans alike. Hope it works out for woy tho. As for Dirty harry, never really likely given his cupboards and quite likely he didnt fancy it anyway.

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Post by Lord Kangana » Tue May 01, 2012 5:15 pm

Seems the papers are dead set against him.

As if somehow we're all clamouring for that no-mark down at Spurs.

Which is remarkable, as everybody i've spoken to is happy with the appointment. And the Fans representative guy came on the radio saying he was happy enough. And the general consensus of this board being "decent enough appointment".

The papers in "throwing our toys out of the pram because we didn't get our man" shocker.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 01, 2012 5:17 pm

boltonboris wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm not sure the England manager should be involved in development.

For me...

England manager - manages the team and picks the squad (probably could be a part time role).

Then we need someone with different skills in a development role.

And a good full time scouting and coaching team!

IMHO.
The Germans, Argentinians and to a lesser extent the USA probably wouldn't agree.
Well yes, but we need a model that works for us. I don't think that necessarily the same skills set is required for an England manager as for someone to head up all the development stuff.

And therefore you're always trying a compromise on one end or the other.

We don't have someone outstanding and figureheadish like Klinsmann for example to kick it off for example......

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 01, 2012 5:22 pm

Lord Kangana wrote:Seems the papers are dead set against him.

As if somehow we're all clamouring for that no-mark down at Spurs.

Which is remarkable, as everybody i've spoken to is happy with the appointment. And the Fans representative guy came on the radio saying he was happy enough. And the general consensus of this board being "decent enough appointment".

The papers in "throwing our toys out of the pram because we didn't get our man" shocker.
Do you think it's maybe cos he is an intelligent, well spoken, travelled and cultured kind of person? Do our press relate well to that type?

In his latest tweet Nixon, who has no vested interest in the England manager, when asked about Woy describes him as 'Cold fish. A blazer. Home Counties, pseudo-middle class.'

Now I know thats Nixon, but can imagine that view may run widely across the media. Eh get to speak to these people quite regularly I guess.

He's certainly not Harry 'I can't read and I can't write but I can open an offshore account and manage England whilst selling my own dead grandma' Redknapp 'common cokerneee' is he?

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Post by Verbal » Tue May 01, 2012 9:59 pm

Good luck to him. With the number of knives already out for him he'll need it.
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Post by seanworth » Tue May 01, 2012 10:30 pm

Give him a chance. You have selected much worse in the past. On a positive note, Woy has been able to see all the talent at Liverpool, less the recent purchases so should be able to ignore that side and focus on what real talent England have to offer the National side.

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Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed May 02, 2012 8:55 am

Steven Gerrard's come out in support of the appointment of Roy Hodgson.

Shame he didn't offer him the same support at Liverpool, they may not be 8th in the table now. nice person.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 am

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A wry take on why the press don't like Hodgson.

The writer hints at it, and in my opinion the reason and only reason is "class".

Hodgson is educated, multi-lingual, well travelled, well read, someone who studies the game......

He's not a cheeky cockney chappie, or a gruff working class northern manager.

I think its clear that the press and certain sections of the fans don't feel they identify with someone like Hodgson....

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Post by CrazyHorse » Wed May 02, 2012 9:21 am

Aye, cos we immediately identified with Capello didn't we? :?
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed May 02, 2012 9:23 am

CrazyHorse wrote:Aye, cos we immediately identified with Capello didn't we? :?
I'm stating why Hodgson is not popular with the media.

Capello wasn't popular either, but they stuck with him early doors because of his record and the fact he was somewhat of an unknown quantity to our media....

Didn't take long for the knives to come out did it?

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