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My Saviour XI:
- - Al Habsi - -
Spooner Newsome Laville Sinclair
Riga Dzemaili Bulent Vaz Te
Harsanyi Smolarek
Mainly made up of players who seemed like they should do well for us, had a bit of hype, didnt play as much as we thought they should have done, until we eventually found out there was a reason for it.
The exceptions to this are Al Habsi, who's still in full saviour mode and hasnt relinquished his mystique yet, and Newsome who holds his mystique forever because he never joined us in the end.
Anyway , its my pick, there'll be disagreements im sure
- - Al Habsi - -
Spooner Newsome Laville Sinclair
Riga Dzemaili Bulent Vaz Te
Harsanyi Smolarek
Mainly made up of players who seemed like they should do well for us, had a bit of hype, didnt play as much as we thought they should have done, until we eventually found out there was a reason for it.
The exceptions to this are Al Habsi, who's still in full saviour mode and hasnt relinquished his mystique yet, and Newsome who holds his mystique forever because he never joined us in the end.
Anyway , its my pick, there'll be disagreements im sure
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The name Robert Fleck is coming to mind!
Also what was that young lad Todd signed who we beat off interest from about 19 clubs like Real Madrid and Man Utd for and turned out to be garbage?
And also wasn't Emannuelle Morini or sommat like that, constantly hyped as the next big thing, never made it.
Also what was that young lad Todd signed who we beat off interest from about 19 clubs like Real Madrid and Man Utd for and turned out to be garbage?
And also wasn't Emannuelle Morini or sommat like that, constantly hyped as the next big thing, never made it.
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I remember the day we signed him from Roma, I was well chuffed that we'd snatched someone from such a prestigious club.
Same with Snorrason
Same with Snorrason
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Nope, close call but i think Bulent had a bit more hype around him for me.Lofthouse Lower wrote:No Andranik
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Tis the one I meant alongside Morini!Lofthouse Lower wrote:I remember the day we signed him from Roma, I was well chuffed that we'd snatched someone from such a prestigious club.
Same with Snorrason
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Faye was good, but then promoted to saviour after we sold him and went to shit miserably. In fairness to him, there might have been something in it (he did go on to do very well at Stoke) but I still don't think he's ever been anything more than a solid Premier League centre half. I think he'd have done no better that season than AOB, for example.Lord Kangana wrote:Faye was good. And Nicky Hunt was a half decent right back who played regularly.
I thought the whole ethos of this list was the mythical powers that squad members acquired by their (long term?) omittance from the first 11?
Hunt I'm talking about from when he didn't play at all. There was a feeling that he was no worse than the two we'd spent £xmillion on. Maybe true at one point at a stretch, but he'd clearly decided he didn't give a shit at this point, hence how well he's doing at Bristol City.
So yeah, I do think all at some point gained mythical powers way above and beyond their actual ability, due to not being in the team (albeit 'not being in the team' for Faye, amounted to 'not being at the club').
And I agree with Prufrock, it was harsh (and incorrect) to call a few of them woefully inept. I was typing in a rush.
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I think thats a slightly different thing more of a "players who are ok but rated too highly by BWFC fans".Tombwfc wrote:Faye was good, but then promoted to saviour after we sold him and went to shit miserably. In fairness to him, there might have been something in it (he did go on to do very well at Stoke) but I still don't think he's ever been anything more than a solid Premier League centre half. I think he'd have done no better that season than AOB, for example.Lord Kangana wrote:Faye was good. And Nicky Hunt was a half decent right back who played regularly.
I thought the whole ethos of this list was the mythical powers that squad members acquired by their (long term?) omittance from the first 11?
Hunt I'm talking about from when he didn't play at all. There was a feeling that he was no worse than the two we'd spent £xmillion on.
So yeah, I do think all at some point gained mythical powers way above and beyond their actual ability, due to not being in the team (albeit 'not being in the team' for Faye, amounted to 'not being at the club').
And I agree with Prufrock, it was harsh (and incorrect) to call a few of them woefully inept. I was typing in a rush.
You can put Tal Ben Haim in that particular list.
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Ben Haim deserved to be highly rated. He was excellent.
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Ben Haim was rated highly while he was playing in the team and doing his "I want to play at BWFC for the rest of my career" badly advised PR.
Like I say the rest got their abilities hugely over-rated simply because they weren't the shit c*nts who occupied the shirt.
Like I say the rest got their abilities hugely over-rated simply because they weren't the shit c*nts who occupied the shirt.
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I can't belive no one has mentioned John O'Kane for right back. Goalkeeper would have to be Matt Clarke for me.............no wait, he WAS a saviour, we just couldn't afford the £1.5 million transfer fee.
Post injury Geoff Chandler should get a shout as should Jamie Pollock for centre mid, possibly Circic in there and of course, for left wing Tadius Novak. City signed a Pole and we followed, thinking he'd be twice as good. Oh dear.
Im arguing with myself whether Diouffy should be in there. Scored a few, created a few, but let us down badly with the spitting, didn't live up to the billing for me and has since become the most maligned footballer on the planet and rightly so.
Post injury Geoff Chandler should get a shout as should Jamie Pollock for centre mid, possibly Circic in there and of course, for left wing Tadius Novak. City signed a Pole and we followed, thinking he'd be twice as good. Oh dear.
Im arguing with myself whether Diouffy should be in there. Scored a few, created a few, but let us down badly with the spitting, didn't live up to the billing for me and has since become the most maligned footballer on the planet and rightly so.
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Well if we're having players we sold on then I win with my trump card of Eidur Gudjohnsson.
But I still disagree with the idea, as I don't think that players who actually were good really count. I reckon its more a team of players who had one good game (or none) who people then knew were being kept from the team by shit management.
So in my understanding, Stuart Whittaker is at least on the bench.
And John O'Kane was shit. I don't know anyone who ever rated him. Ever.
But I still disagree with the idea, as I don't think that players who actually were good really count. I reckon its more a team of players who had one good game (or none) who people then knew were being kept from the team by shit management.
So in my understanding, Stuart Whittaker is at least on the bench.
And John O'Kane was shit. I don't know anyone who ever rated him. Ever.
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Remind me which top club he's at now then and what trophies he's won?Lofthouse Lower wrote:Ben Haim deserved to be highly rated. He was excellent.
He were ok, thats the point. If he was excellent he'd have gone on to have a really good career. But he hasn't.
He was an average defender who quite often couldn't displace Abdoulaye Meite from our starting line up!
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BURN THE WITCH!!!!Bijou Bob wrote:and of course, for left wing Tadius Novak. City signed a Pole and we followed, thinking he'd be twice as good. Oh dear.
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I agree, but I couldn't think of enough of them.Lord Kangana wrote:Well if we're having players we sold on then I win with my trump card of Eidur Gudjohnsson.
But I still disagree with the idea, as I don't think that players who actually were good really count. I reckon its more a team of players who had one good game (or none) who people then knew were being kept from the team by shit management.
So in my understanding, Stuart Whittaker is at least on the bench.
And John O'Kane was shit. I don't know anyone who ever rated him. Ever.
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Lord Kangana wrote: But I still disagree with the idea, as I don't think that players who actually were good really count. I reckon its more a team of players who had one good game (or none) who people then knew were being kept from the team by shit management.
indeed - the "saviours" in this thread should be those who ITK fans know - for some reason - one good pre-season goal? - chumps manager? - a youtube clip? - but the fecking useless manager just can't see it and won't play him..
if only the manager could see what us fans could see - then we'd be fecking awesome.... the fact that they are NOT picked only grows the legend around them...
andranik was - for a while - the archetype - and (I'd argue) - Klasnic - and the now untouchably awesome miracle-keeper - Al Habsi.
in this team there would be very very few genuinely "saviour" players - cos otherwise the manager would have played them more.
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Chic Charnely (again the memory has gone) but he was a mad scot.
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