Boltons next top striker?
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No offence but Tuncay would no more 'replace' SKD than would my Aunty Marjorie...plymouth wanderer wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Aye one striker who has pace and gets goals and another who can do a similar or equivalent job to that of SKD.plymouth wanderer wrote:Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tuncay's best position is behind the striker in the 4-2-3-1 formation we don't play.
granted but you drop him slightly deeper in a sort of target man role but not every fecking ball lobbed at his head but into feet but that would obviously mean dropping SKD but IMO he is on his last legs anyway
but i also understand what BWFCI is saying but with elmo possibly going sturrige again may not be here we are left with SKD and klasnic we are goin to need 2 strikers
again it boils down to finance which all hangs on the cahill deal
Neither of which are Tuncay!
who's that then? who's gonna get us 15-20 goals a season and looks like usain bolt and who is tryed and tested in the EPL and in our price range ?
and as already said tuncay plays in the hole so would be exatly the type of player to replace SKD he would create so much more than he would plus he is more flexible than the karma sutra what more do you need fvcking jam on it
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and she's more of a left-back
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Lofthouse Lower wrote:and she's more of a left-back
no center back
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Hmm so Tuncay replaces SKD. So my question is who are you going to play up front with Tuncay?plymouth wanderer wrote:BWFC_Insane wrote:Aye one striker who has pace and gets goals and another who can do a similar or equivalent job to that of SKD.plymouth wanderer wrote:Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tuncay's best position is behind the striker in the 4-2-3-1 formation we don't play.
granted but you drop him slightly deeper in a sort of target man role but not every fecking ball lobbed at his head but into feet but that would obviously mean dropping SKD but IMO he is on his last legs anyway
but i also understand what BWFCI is saying but with elmo possibly going sturrige again may not be here we are left with SKD and klasnic we are goin to need 2 strikers
again it boils down to finance which all hangs on the cahill deal
Neither of which are Tuncay!
who's that then? who's gonna get us 15-20 goals a season and looks like usain bolt and who is tryed and tested in the EPL and in our price range ?
and as already said tuncay plays in the hole so would be exatly the type of player to replace SKD he would create so much more than he would plus he is more flexible than the karma sutra what more do you need fvcking jam on it
Presumably the 15-20 goal a season striker who looks like Usain Bolt?
Take Tuncay's career as a whole and he averages a goal every 3 games. Take his time outside of Turkey and he averages less than a goal every 5 games.
We all know getting goalscorers will be difficult, but I think in a squad that is likely to lose its two most prolific strikers bringing in one who might get us 6 or 7 a season if we're lucky would be a bit foolish IMHO.
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senter-back to the changing rooms...!
I wouldnt doubt Tuncay has skill, but i'm in the 'not for us' camp at the moment, based solely on the fact that i dont think he would suit how we play now, assuming SKD will continue to fill one berth.
Maybe not so much 'not for us', more 'not for the money it would cost' .
I wouldnt doubt Tuncay has skill, but i'm in the 'not for us' camp at the moment, based solely on the fact that i dont think he would suit how we play now, assuming SKD will continue to fill one berth.
Maybe not so much 'not for us', more 'not for the money it would cost' .
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ohjimmyjimmy wrote:senter-back to the changing rooms...!
I wouldnt doubt Tuncay has skill, but i'm in the 'not for us' camp at the moment, based solely on the fact that i dont think he would suit how we play now, assuming SKD will continue to fill one berth.
Maybe not so much 'not for us', more 'not for the money it would cost' .
i agree it comes down to finance
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BWFC_Insane wrote:Hmm so Tuncay replaces SKD. So my question is who are you going to play up front with Tuncay?plymouth wanderer wrote:who's that then? who's gonna get us 15-20 goals a season and looks like usain bolt and who is tryed and tested in the EPL and in our price range ?BWFC_Insane wrote:Aye one striker who has pace and gets goals and another who can do a similar or equivalent job to that of SKD.plymouth wanderer wrote:Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Tuncay's best position is behind the striker in the 4-2-3-1 formation we don't play.
granted but you drop him slightly deeper in a sort of target man role but not every fecking ball lobbed at his head but into feet but that would obviously mean dropping SKD but IMO he is on his last legs anyway
but i also understand what BWFCI is saying but with elmo possibly going sturrige again may not be here we are left with SKD and klasnic we are goin to need 2 strikers
again it boils down to finance which all hangs on the cahill deal
Neither of which are Tuncay!
and as already said tuncay plays in the hole so would be exatly the type of player to replace SKD he would create so much more than he would plus he is more flexible than the karma sutra what more do you need fvcking jam on it
Presumably the 15-20 goal a season striker who looks like Usain Bolt?
Take Tuncay's career as a whole and he averages a goal every 3 games. Take his time outside of Turkey and he averages less than a goal every 5 games.
We all know getting goalscorers will be difficult, but I think in a squad that is likely to lose its two most prolific strikers bringing in one who might get us 6 or 7 a season if we're lucky would be a bit foolish IMHO.
i did mean 2 strikers if you read what i said
he would certainly be safer bet than bringing some unknown in i was thinking of 2 new strikers for the starting 11 and he would replace SKD and then we would get your usain bolt and 15-20 goal a season striker to play along side him you know to strikers with abit of movement obviously that would create another problem who would be captain and we got one of our highest paid player sat on the bench but like you rightly say it's going to be a testing summer for coyle
out of intrest how many goals to games ratio has SKD and elmo got in the EPL?
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Elmander is something like 20 goals in 90 games isn't it? Bet Davies isn't any better either.
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Lofthouse Lower wrote:Elmander is something like 20 goals in 90 games isn't it? Bet Davies isn't any better either.
dont think it's even that good maybe wrong but that's my point exatly
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Okay, I divided the camp big time with my Tuncay suggestion.
Well, looking around Europe I'm focussing on the clubs-that-should-be-good-but-are-in-a-bit-of-a-state-right-now category, because if they were to get themselves relegated they could have good players going cheap.
Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Werder Bremen, Auxerre, and Monaco come to mind. Feyenoord and Galatasaray have managed to dodge the bullet, the latter only just. Sampdoria would fit the bill too, but unfortunately they sold all their strikers in January.
Tuncay seems a no-no but other than Pogrebnyak, who wouldn't fit in at all, I couldn't see any better bets at any of the other clubs, unless you want Claudio Pizarro, Jon-Dahl Tomasson, Anthony Le Tallec, or Milan Baros. (Actually, circa 2002 I was praying Bolton would could somehow sign Tomasson... then again, I also thought Borghetti would be a hit. )
Just from having watched the Asian Cup religiously for some reason, I think that crazy guy who's going around talking about Ji Dong-Won has a point... he really is quite good. I thought Koo Ja-Cheol (also Wolfsburg, so might get relegated) was even more impressive in that tournament, though he's more of an auxiliary forward/midfielder.
Jong Tae-Se of North Korea looked excellent at times in their three World Cup games, and has done well with Bochum in his first season in Europe. If they don't get promoted he might be gettable.
Sorry for my ramblings, but it's that time of the year when I really look around the European leagues and wonder what the hell is happening to some clubs.
Well, looking around Europe I'm focussing on the clubs-that-should-be-good-but-are-in-a-bit-of-a-state-right-now category, because if they were to get themselves relegated they could have good players going cheap.
Wolfsburg, Stuttgart, Werder Bremen, Auxerre, and Monaco come to mind. Feyenoord and Galatasaray have managed to dodge the bullet, the latter only just. Sampdoria would fit the bill too, but unfortunately they sold all their strikers in January.
Tuncay seems a no-no but other than Pogrebnyak, who wouldn't fit in at all, I couldn't see any better bets at any of the other clubs, unless you want Claudio Pizarro, Jon-Dahl Tomasson, Anthony Le Tallec, or Milan Baros. (Actually, circa 2002 I was praying Bolton would could somehow sign Tomasson... then again, I also thought Borghetti would be a hit. )
Just from having watched the Asian Cup religiously for some reason, I think that crazy guy who's going around talking about Ji Dong-Won has a point... he really is quite good. I thought Koo Ja-Cheol (also Wolfsburg, so might get relegated) was even more impressive in that tournament, though he's more of an auxiliary forward/midfielder.
Jong Tae-Se of North Korea looked excellent at times in their three World Cup games, and has done well with Bochum in his first season in Europe. If they don't get promoted he might be gettable.
Sorry for my ramblings, but it's that time of the year when I really look around the European leagues and wonder what the hell is happening to some clubs.
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Boris had Tuncay nailed ages back.
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Prufrock wrote:Boris had Tuncay nailed ages back.
OO yeah wink
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I'm a big fan of Hugo Rodallega, and Wigan are on their way down. Be a great bit of business if we can get him for under 5mil.
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According to Wikipedia its 21 in 106, which equates to over £390,000 per goal, Adminittidly he's being played out of position lately, but I'd personally drop him when Sturridge is playing and have Mark Davies on the pitch or Lee. Personalyy I'll be glad to see the Back of him, as I thought he should of committed to another 12 - 18 months in Januaryplymouth wanderer wrote:Lofthouse Lower wrote:Elmander is something like 20 goals in 90 games isn't it? Bet Davies isn't any better either.
dont think it's even that good maybe wrong but that's my point exatly
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According to Opta Stats, Kevin Davies has created more chances from open play (85) than any other player in the league.
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