Lee and Holden

[CAPSLOCK]

Didn't Lee miss most of the games in the run up to the semi

Shithouse Elmander was the right winger, wasn't he?

Not doubting his ability but his influence is perhaps overstated

[Lord Kangana]

Yeah. Apart from the winning header at Brum to put us in the semi final, he was a bit part player.

[Tombwfc]

He started two league games in the near five months leading up to the semi-final.

[thebish]

He started two league games in the near five months leading up to the semi-final.

a pivotal role!

[CAPSLOCK]

Yeah. Apart from the winning header at Brum to put us in the semi final, he was a bit part player.

So does that mean he played in most of the games?

No?

Thought not

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Good players quite important shocker.

...is basically it. Take three key players out of any team and they'd suffer. "Good players paper over cracks"? You don't have to be Richard Rogers or Timothy McVeigh to know what happens in the architectural absence of key pillars.

feck' Rooney, Vidic, Hernandez and Nani were probably papering over the cracks as United last season too. Jesus, this board is a fookin' dank place to be when we're not Brazil '78

Ah, Brazil '78. Who could forget Roberto Dinamite's goal in the epoch-making 1-0 win over Austria? The guile of Dirceu? The solid assurance of Chicão? The finest generation, without a doubt

[Prufrock]

I fink he's mocking you Bowis.

.

Also, I can't do a cockney accent no more wivowt ending up sounding like Danny....

"I did, I invented it in Camberwell, and it looks like a carrot"

[GeraldCid]

Davies, Robbo and Jussi are too old now, Klasnic and Petrov arn't putting the effort in. Bogdan hasn't fully develpoed yet, Cahill doesn't want to wear the shirt anymore. I really hate pessemistic football fans but I do think we have deep-running problems. When CLY and Stu come back, we will get the results and Im sure we'll stay up, but we need some serious investment in refreshing a squad that relies heavily on old players.

[CAPSLOCK]

Cahill doesn't want to wear the shirt anymore. I really hate pessemistic football fans but I do think we have deep-running problems. When CLY and Stu come back, we will get the results and Im sure we'll stay up, but we need some serious investment in refreshing a squad that relies heavily on old players.

1 Cahill - bollocks, utter bollocks

2 LCY and Holden will hardly play, if at all, this season

3 Investment - it aint happening

[GeraldCid]

Cahill is going through the motions untill Jan comes, I dont think thats any secret. When you have an england international in the back 4 and your goal difference is -12 after 9 games, it speaks for itself.

[Prufrock]

Cahill not wanting to wear the shirt? Bollocks.

Lee we might see, if as rumoured he has miracle powers of recovery, Pea-Head might be a last few games job.

I still think we'll be reet.

[Prufrock]

Cahill is going through the motions untill Jan comes, I dont think thats any secret. When you have an england international in the back 4 and your goal difference is -12 after 9 games, it speaks for itself.

Going through the motions? Of what, being, again, our stand out defender, Baresi at his best would struggle next to Knight and Robinson with nowt but Reo-Coker in front of him!

[thebish]

Davies, Robbo and Jussi are too old now, Klasnic and Petrov arn't putting the effort in.

y'see - that's just not true. last night at Arsenal Klasnic put in a full 90min harrying shift - nobody can seriously complain about his lack of effort last night - MoM performance had he put a couple of those 3 chances in...

[officer_dibble]

Ah good, im not on my own in bigging up klasnic's fitness/attitude then. Been like that every game he has started IMO. Thing is he gets chances, which puts him above our other forwards i reckon...

[Prufrock]

Aye, been more impressed by Ivan's workrate this year. Needs someone more mobile next to him, but doesn't look disinterested any more.

In fairness, for most of this season Petrov has seemed more willing to track back and help out, he is just shit at it.

[Tombwfc]

Klasnic works harder than Davies these days. His lack of effort is a bit like Jussi's shit kicking, it'll keep getting brought up even though it hasn't been the case in ages.

[CrazyHorse]

Coyle eyes early Lee return

Owen Coyle is hopeful that Lee Chung-yong will return to action this season and says he could even be back by March.

The Bolton winger sustained a double fracture to his lower right leg in a pre-season game against Newport County and it was initially feared that he would miss the entire 2011/12 campaign.

However, he has been working hard in his rehabilitation and Coylehas revealed that he is currently ahead of schedule.

Having returned to South Korea over the summer to spend time with his international team's doctors, Lee is now back with Bolton and showing signs of progress.

Coyle is still not sure exactly when the 23-year-old may be available for selection again, but remains optimistic that he could feature for a couple of months this term.

"At this moment in time, he's doing better than I would have envisaged," Coyle told the Bolton News.

"I don't want to get ahead of myself but I don't think it will be as bad as we first thought - i.e. the whole season - but what part of it he comes back is still very much up in the air.

"We could get him back March, maybe, but he's certainly doing well."

[Prufrock]

I read that as 'what part of him comes back'

[bobo the clown]

Aye, been more impressed by Ivan's workrate this year. Needs someone more mobile next to him, but doesn't look disinterested any more.

In fairness, for most of this season Petrov has seemed more willing to track back and help out, he is just shit at it.

I think this is absolutely the case. He really is trying to do something out of his nature and that he's very poor at, but no-one can claim otherwise.

Klasnic is never going to be a massive 'work rate' player, but his general input and fitnesss are much improved this season.

[keveh]

Unless it was proper back to the wall stuff by that time then I wouldn't want him to return.

We need him back 100%, not 80% and then him getting injured again.