Now he's gone, who's next?

[Harry Genshaw]

This "Working wonders for the academy" jiminhio has done. Go on. Genuine question - what is it he's changed/done? And how will it make him ready for first team management.

Was it DSB who posted the other day about John McGoverns autobiography, in which he described Jimmy Phillips as apologising to opponents he bumped into when he tackled them? I'm sure he's a very nice guy but do we want another nice guy in charge?

I do of course, reserve the right to delete this post if he takes over and turns out to be great

[Lord Kangana]

Don't think Jesus is available at the minute, sadly.

he's a pedderass anyway.

We can get his address off the sex offenders register then can't we?

[thebish]

Don't think Jesus is available at the minute, sadly.

he's a pedderass anyway.

We can get his address off the sex offenders register then can't we?

[Lord Kangana]

Pedestrian, pediatrician, pederass....

Keep up!

[Barefoot Wanderer]

,

Your best post to date !!!!!!!!!!

did you have difficulty understanding it

[Hoboh]

I wouldn't object to Souness TBH, if he wants to get back into management big time a few succesful years with us would do him nor us any harm at all plus it would keep Mad Mick away from the Reebok!
For now I'm backing the backroom boys to prove once and for all to the blind what a tosser Coyle really was.

[Barefoot Wanderer]

I wouldn't object to Souness TBH, if he wants to get back into management big time a few succesful years with us would do him nor us any harm at all plus it would keep Mad Mick away from the Reebok!
For now I'm backing the backroom boys to prove once and for all to the blind what a tosser Coyle really was.

completely agree

re: your other point, souness wouldn't be my first choice, but i think he would do a good job for us. Although i think 1 (maybe 2) on here might be upset if it happens

[Lost Leopard Spot]

He wasn't boot room is my point..

That's what I said. He came at the end of the boot room and literally dismantled it.

Actually you said this

Look, whatever you think about Liverpool, (and I can hear people retching already), the fact is that Souness was the last in a line of managers, starting with Bill Shankly, in the Boot Room tradition.

The line of boot room managers was continuous promotion from within, the boot room, Paisley, Moran,Evans,fagin(?) etc all at the club through the ranks.
Souness went to Rangers, player manager and manager. Then he went back..
Possibly from a boot room, not in in the boot room tradition.

Just sayin like..

Shankly
Paisley
Fagan
Dalglish
Moran
Souness
Souness coming at the end of a line of managers in the boot room tradition, which he then dismantled.

I think that's what I said. I think I'm sticking with it. I think it's factual.

[BWFC_Insane]

I think its oversimplistic to blame Souness entirely for Liverpool's decline.

But its hardly analagous to our situation.

His time at Blackburn is though.....

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think its oversimplistic to blame Souness entirely for Liverpool's decline.

But its hardly analagous to our situation.

His time at Blackburn is though.....

I don't think it's oversimplistic to blame Souness for Liverpool's decline. He started it, it was practically his invention.

I wasn't trying for an analogy, I was pointing out why Souness was/is a shit manager. That (being a shit manager) is a transferable/scalable skill is that

[David Lee's Hair]

Lets be honest anyone who thought Torben Picnic was a good player is a shit manager.... Couple that with any manager who spends a time at Benfica and doesn't win anything or even challenge...

Souness would be a complete disaster... we'll be harking back to the glory days of Roy McFarland if we end up with Souness...

[officer_dibble]

We were in the premiership in the glory days of mcfarland...

[officer_dibble]

I wouldn't object to Souness TBH, if he wants to get back into management big time a few succesful years with us would do him nor us any harm at all plus it would keep Mad Mick away from the Reebok!
For now I'm backing the backroom boys to prove once and for all to the blind what a tosser Coyle really was.

[BWFC_Insane]

I think its oversimplistic to blame Souness entirely for Liverpool's decline.

But its hardly analagous to our situation.

His time at Blackburn is though.....

I don't think it's oversimplistic to blame Souness for Liverpool's decline. He started it, it was practically his invention.

I wasn't trying for an analogy, I was pointing out why Souness was/is a shit manager. That (being a shit manager) is a transferable/scalable skill is that

If it was Souness' fault, you think there'd have been an easy fix by now......

He inherited an ageing side with players who had been at the top level, beginning to get past their best.

And it was a time when football was starting to change with the premier league and money starting to dominate.

Not arguing he did a good job there like, just that its a little bit simplistic to suggest he was responsible for their decline.

Its not like anyone else has been able to fix it in the 20 years since, even King Kenny himself or the current England manager......

[David Lee's Hair]

We were in the premiership in the glory days of mcfarland...

Aye, but he would have took us back to the Phil Neal days...

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I think its oversimplistic to blame Souness entirely for Liverpool's decline.

But its hardly analagous to our situation.

His time at Blackburn is though.....

I don't think it's oversimplistic to blame Souness for Liverpool's decline. He started it, it was practically his invention.

I wasn't trying for an analogy, I was pointing out why Souness was/is a shit manager. That (being a shit manager) is a transferable/scalable skill is that

If it was Souness' fault, you think there'd have been an easy fix by now......

He inherited an ageing side with players who had been at the top level, beginning to get past their best.

And it was a time when football was starting to change with the premier league and money starting to dominate.

Not arguing he did a good job there like, just that its a little bit simplistic to suggest he was responsible for their decline.

Its not like anyone else has been able to fix it in the 20 years since, even King Kenny himself or the current England manager......

Just because one person/thing is at fault for causing something to not work/collapse, it is not always fixable by replacing said person/component.
[Souness started the rot so Liverpool went shit. / Tappet stuck so that engine blew up.]
[Replace Souness, everything is not OK / Replace tappet, engine still shagged.]

[BWFC_Insane]

I think its oversimplistic to blame Souness entirely for Liverpool's decline.

But its hardly analagous to our situation.

His time at Blackburn is though.....

I don't think it's oversimplistic to blame Souness for Liverpool's decline. He started it, it was practically his invention.

I wasn't trying for an analogy, I was pointing out why Souness was/is a shit manager. That (being a shit manager) is a transferable/scalable skill is that

If it was Souness' fault, you think there'd have been an easy fix by now......

He inherited an ageing side with players who had been at the top level, beginning to get past their best.

And it was a time when football was starting to change with the premier league and money starting to dominate.

Not arguing he did a good job there like, just that its a little bit simplistic to suggest he was responsible for their decline.

Its not like anyone else has been able to fix it in the 20 years since, even King Kenny himself or the current England manager......

Just because one person/thing is at fault for causing something to not work/collapse, it is not always fixable by replacing said person/component.
[Souness started the rot so Liverpool went shit. / Tappet stuck so that engine blew up.]
[Replace Souness, everything is not OK / Replace tappet, engine still shagged.]

So your contention is that solely down to Souness Liverpool went shite?

Nowt to do with the fact that all their better players were getting on a bit?

Or that the football world had changed? It was solely because of one man?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

That's my contention, Yes. That one man being the manager. A man very much capable of turning gold into lead. Grim 'Reaper' Souness: the touch of death personified.

[bedwetter2]

I'm confused. Would an engine with double overhead camshafts be better?

[Lost Leopard Spot]

I'm confused. Would an engine with double overhead camshafts be better?

It would. Are Jiminho and Lee overhead camshafts?