Who Do You Want?

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:53 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.

Did I miss the moment you announced that you are now firmly in the Dougie Out camp ?

William the White · Post by **William the White** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:59 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.
Did I miss the moment you announced that you are now firmly in the Dougie Out camp ?

The mad one has surreptitiously edged his way into the nudge out DF camp - after being the man praising the heavens for having, in DF, a 'proper manager' at last!

If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.

Lord Kangana · Post by **Lord Kangana** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:14 pm

All these players that weren't good enough for the Championship - why didn't someone feel like mentioning it mention it to Dougie Freedman when he renewed their contracts and/or made their loan deals permanent? And since when did Coyle sign Jermaine Beckford, or Craig Davies? (there are others, but I'm hoping in vain that a manager with some semblance of ability might actually set-to in the task of actually managing instead of whinging all the bloody time.)

StaffsTrotter · Post by **StaffsTrotter** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 2:17 pm

William the White wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.
Did I miss the moment you announced that you are now firmly in the Dougie Out camp ?
The mad one has surreptitiously edged his way into the nudge out DF camp - after being the man praising the heavens for having, in DF, a 'proper manager' at last!

If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.

Probably as long as for people to tell SmokinF he probably called it right

BWFC_Insane · Post by **BWFC_Insane** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:23 pm

William the White wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.
Did I miss the moment you announced that you are now firmly in the Dougie Out camp ?
The mad one has surreptitiously edged his way into the nudge out DF camp - after being the man praising the heavens for having, in DF, a 'proper manager' at last!

If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.

Just in the same way that those who defended Coyle to the rafters when he was very evidently sending this club back to the dark ages in the most appalling manner and spending a fortune doing so haven't ever come out and said "hey you were right and we were wrong".

But whatever.

I thought Freedman would turn us round. He hasn't. I don't believe it is as black and white as people are making out and were it my decision I'd stick with him for the forseeable because I don't see a way out right now. However, I was wrong he hasn't done as well as I thought and ultimately is now taking us backwards. Does that make it better?

bobo the clown · Post by **bobo the clown** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:26 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought Freedman would turn us round. He hasn't. I don't believe it is as black and white as people are making out and were it my decision I'd stick with him for the forseeable because I don't see a way out right now.

However, I was wrong he hasn't done as well as I thought and ultimately is now taking us backwards. Does that make it better?

There. It didn't hurt, now did it ?

B4E · Post by **B4E** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:42 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
William the White wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.
Did I miss the moment you announced that you are now firmly in the Dougie Out camp ?
The mad one has surreptitiously edged his way into the nudge out DF camp - after being the man praising the heavens for having, in DF, a 'proper manager' at last!

If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.
Just in the same way that those who defended Coyle to the rafters when he was very evidently sending this club back to the dark ages in the most appalling manner and spending a fortune doing so haven't ever come out and said "hey you were right and we were wrong".

This is exactly the thing I don't understand, anyone who was negative towards Coyle for most of our relegation season (I include myself in that, I hated Coyle after the way we collapsed post-Wembley) were shot down and told they were wrong and deluded. Now, it's completely reversed. I think if we sack Freedman now/soon, we'll get someone worse and we'll be relegated next season if not this season. Again, I get shot down and called wrong and deluded.

Makes no sense to me. I think it's plain to see that Freedman isn't going to take us forward. I just think replacing him will take us backwards.

a1 · Post by a1 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:44 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.

rather have coyle back, yeah we'll be shit, but we'll have a better chance of staying up when we get promoted.

#deanholden4life

Puskas · Post by **Puskas** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:02 pm

a1 wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:Well, one manager has gone from the list.

Palace have just appointed Warnock. He is the sort we need IMO.
rather have coyle back, yeah we'll be shit, but we'll have a better chance of staying up when we get promoted.

#deanholden4life

a1 speaking words of great sense, there.

Not just about Dean Holden, but about the fact that Colin isn't really a very good manager.

cmbfc_90 · Post by **cmbfc_90** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:38 pm

Someone like Karl Robinson (MK Dons), seen the highlights of them against united last night and they were very impressive, used possession well had plenty of it & pressed united when they didn't, it's one of the major flaws with us!

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:44 pm

William the White wrote:
If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.

not really true, though - as BWFCi has admitted he was wrong more than once... most recently over Beckford.

BWFCi also admitted he was wrong about the quality of the Bolton squad when we came down - having formerly said it was simply an ace squad managed by a turnip... he admitted quite openly that he got that wrong...

all in the interests of fairness...

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:53 pm

thebish wrote:
William the White wrote:
If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.
not really true, though - as BWFCi has admitted he was wrong more than once... most recently over Beckford.

BWFCi also admitted he was wrong about the quality of the Bolton squad when we came down - having formerly said it was simply an ace squad managed by a turnip... he admitted quite openly that he got that wrong...

all in the interests of fairness...

And all after an aforementioned very long wait.

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:58 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
thebish wrote:
William the White wrote:
If you expect him ever to admit, on any footballing issue, that he has ever got anything wrong, you may have a very long wait.
not really true, though - as BWFCi has admitted he was wrong more than once... most recently over Beckford.

BWFCi also admitted he was wrong about the quality of the Bolton squad when we came down - having formerly said it was simply an ace squad managed by a turnip... he admitted quite openly that he got that wrong...

all in the interests of fairness...
And all after an aforementioned very long wait.

maybe - but I don't think BWFCi is noticeably any less likely to admit wrongness than any other forum member I can think of - WtW and myself included!

Prufrock · Post by **Prufrock** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:06 am

Not really. There's a particular kind of poster who seems to have an inbuilt idea that being wrong is something to be ashamed of, rather than something normal to be learnt from. I have no idea where they get it from.

Hoboh · Post by **Hoboh** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:10 am

Prufrock wrote:Not really. There's a particular kind of poster who seems to have an inbuilt idea that being wrong is something to be ashamed of, rather than something normal to be learnt from. I have no idea where they get it from.

Don't worry, you'll get over it mate.

Worthy4England · Post by **Worthy4England** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:51 am

Prufrock wrote:Not really. There's a particular kind of poster who seems to have an inbuilt idea that being wrong is something to be ashamed of, rather than something normal to be learnt from. I have no idea where they get it from.

What's this "wrong" thing of which you speak?

Bruce Rioja · Post by **Bruce Rioja** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:57 am

I was wrong once, but that was when I thought I'd made a mistake

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:02 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:I was wrong once, but that was when I thought I'd made a mistake

“It is very unnerving to be proven wrong, particularly when you are really right and the person who is really wrong is proving you wrong and proving himself, wrongly, right.” (Lemony Snicket)

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:05 am

bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:I thought Freedman would turn us round. He hasn't. I don't believe it is as black and white as people are making out and were it my decision I'd stick with him for the forseeable because I don't see a way out right now.

However, I was wrong he hasn't done as well as I thought and ultimately is now taking us backwards. Does that make it better?
There. It didn't hurt, now did it ?

your turn now, Bobo...

thebish · Post by **thebish** » Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:06 am

StaffsTrotter wrote:
Probably as long as for people to tell SmokinF he probably called it right

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

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