Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
As harsh as it sounds, I think most would tend to agree with that. Outside of the box his link up play generally leaves a lot to be desired, but he seems to have an uncanny knack of finding space in the box - all of his goals this season have come <12 yards out.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:27 pmThere can't be many clubs that have scored more late goals than we have this season; it's a really good habit to have. And although it might now be meaningless it's also important that we keep winning as many matches as we can, just from a psychological standpoint - winning mentality, etc. - so it's good that we've picked up another three points no matter how unconvincingly.
My opinion of Bakayoko's general ability is quite low and my suspicion is that he might eventually prove to be something like another Gnahoua - an average player benefitting from being introduced deep into the second half when we're either chasing a result or comfortably on top - but he keeps scoring and I can't criticise that. Long may it continue.
His pace and strength are also a handy asset to have off the bench against tiring defenders.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
Baka isn't a bad player outside the box by League One standards. He works really hard, he's athletic and he scores goals.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
3 points, a win and a fortnight's rest. I ain't complaining.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
He’s got a lot of attributes but very little idea what to do with them.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:33 pmBaka isn't a bad player outside the box by League One standards. He works really hard, he's athletic and he scores goals.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
He’s quick, tall and gets in good positions. I just wish he was a bit more natural. He’s be an absolutely superb player. It’s in between his ears I suspect that holds him back.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
There's some nice things said about Baka here. Bloke putting ball in net is the least of our problems...brommers95 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:14 pmAs harsh as it sounds, I think most would tend to agree with that. Outside of the box his link up play generally leaves a lot to be desired, but he seems to have an uncanny knack of finding space in the box - all of his goals this season have come <12 yards out.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:27 pmThere can't be many clubs that have scored more late goals than we have this season; it's a really good habit to have. And although it might now be meaningless it's also important that we keep winning as many matches as we can, just from a psychological standpoint - winning mentality, etc. - so it's good that we've picked up another three points no matter how unconvincingly.
My opinion of Bakayoko's general ability is quite low and my suspicion is that he might eventually prove to be something like another Gnahoua - an average player benefitting from being introduced deep into the second half when we're either chasing a result or comfortably on top - but he keeps scoring and I can't criticise that. Long may it continue.
His pace and strength are also a handy asset to have off the bench against tiring defenders.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
I'd take offence at that. Take his goals away and where would we be?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pmHe’s got a lot of attributes but very little idea what to do with them.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:33 pmBaka isn't a bad player outside the box by League One standards. He works really hard, he's athletic and he scores goals.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
He’s quick, tall and gets in good positions. I just wish he was a bit more natural. He’s be an absolutely superb player. It’s in between his ears I suspect that holds him back.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
The only ones near us are the noisy neighbours. And Oxford, who appear to give zero figs.nicholaldo wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:27 pmThere can't be many clubs that have scored more late goals than we have this season; it's a really good habit to have.
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Pity we've been so cack at the opposite end of the 90. Nobody's conceded more in the first 15...
All the teams above us in the Real Table have scored more than they've conceded in both halves. Probably not a coincidence.
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This, Tango. There's folks here that forget how to fcking count where the points came from.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:21 pmI'd take offence at that. Take his goals away and where would we be?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pmHe’s got a lot of attributes but very little idea what to do with them.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:33 pmBaka isn't a bad player outside the box by League One standards. He works really hard, he's athletic and he scores goals.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
He’s quick, tall and gets in good positions. I just wish he was a bit more natural. He’s be an absolutely superb player. It’s in between his ears I suspect that holds him back.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
Bakayoko's goals have been invaluable this season. I find it a bit odd that he gets criticism for his work outside the box not being great when people defended Doyle's limitations based on his goal return. Baka's minutes-per-goal is much better Doyle's was, so presumably that should work in Baka's favour when we evaluate him.
We're also talking about a player who hasn't had a full run at things due to injuries. All in all I feel like he's contributing a lot more than I expected him to and I'm really pleased with the signing.
There are things I'd like him to be better at, but we are in League One and I like him at this level.
We're also talking about a player who hasn't had a full run at things due to injuries. All in all I feel like he's contributing a lot more than I expected him to and I'm really pleased with the signing.
There are things I'd like him to be better at, but we are in League One and I like him at this level.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
We're Bolton. Someone gotta be a bit shit, even when they're not. There were "expectations" on him before Jan. Now he's started cashing in, still a bit shit. It's incredible. Dunno what people are seeing..maybe too much Twitter.
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There are folk on here who would slam Gary Lineker for his lack of contribution. It's laughable really.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
URL didn’t work, Nicko - think I’ve fixed it abovenicholaldo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:07 amToday's highlights can be found HERE.
Their goalkeeper's save from Dapo's header is incredible.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:13 amURL didn’t work, Nicko - think I’ve fixed it abovenicholaldo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 12:07 amToday's highlights can be found HERE.
Their goalkeeper's save from Dapo's header is incredible.
So it didn't. Thanks for correcting.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
Hmm, I also now notice that when the teams are listed alphabetically eight of the last nine teams are above us in the league. If we had changed our name to Wanderers of Bolton we would have walked this league.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
Indeed Bruce. See, this is where the object of the game, to win by scoring one goal more than the opposition, something that applies the same for Bournemouth or Brazil, gets confused with Youtube videos of Roberto Carlos free kicks and memories of times past and days of glory. It's Crewe and Morecambe folks, not City and United, and right now, Bakayoko is the hero of the hour. Give the man his due.Bruce Rioja wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:37 pmThere are folk on here who would slam Gary Lineker for his lack of contribution. It's laughable really.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
I’m not talking goals. He’s hit a purple patch of goals. But looks better off the bench. The discussion is about why he seems to struggle in games starting but also the fact that given he’s scoring goals you’d expect him to be first pick. But it’s his all round game that for me holds him back. But not that he’s not got the ability. He just seems to lack a football brain especially in build up play.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:21 pmI'd take offence at that. Take his goals away and where would we be?BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:15 pmHe’s got a lot of attributes but very little idea what to do with them.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:33 pmBaka isn't a bad player outside the box by League One standards. He works really hard, he's athletic and he scores goals.
I think he's scored 5 in 13 starts, which is a pretty good return. Plus he got an assist in one of those, so he has a near 1 in 2 goal involvement in games he starts in.
It's not like he's either an impact sub or nothing. His stats starting are better than most in the league in his position.
He’s quick, tall and gets in good positions. I just wish he was a bit more natural. He’s be an absolutely superb player. It’s in between his ears I suspect that holds him back.
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Your discussion? You're losing credibility Insaney. Charles, Bodvarson, Kachunga, Ameichi, Dapo even. Who do you suggest leaving out? 'Im pretty sure I.E is more than happy to have a goal-scoring sub like Baka. Seems a pretty good scenario to have? What exactly is a football brain lacking in a man who scores half-a-dozen goals and keeps us in the hunt all by himself. He's a fox in the box, pure and simple. You don't hire an accountant to drive a fork-lift-truck.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:43 pm
I’m not talking goals. He’s hit a purple patch of goals. But looks better off the bench. The discussion is about why he seems to struggle in games starting but also the fact that given he’s scoring goals you’d expect him to be first pick. But it’s his all round game that for me holds him back. But not that he’s not got the ability. He just seems to lack a football brain especially in build up play.
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Re: Back on track or up the Junction.? V Crewe away, Sat19th Mar. 3-0'clock.
How can you not talk goals, for a striker? It's a bit like only talking attacking attributes in defenders...
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As an aside, Baka's started in 12. Scored half his league goals as a starter. Of those 12, we won 6 and drew 2 (better ppg than our current league average). The 4 we Lost were Wigan, Plymouth (A), Wycombe (A) and Burton (A)...all matches where every bugger struggled - don't recall great service into the front men in those games, generally.
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