Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Puskas » Wed Aug 06, 2014 10:35 pm

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Rolf Harris.

Five pounds please.
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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:10 am

Puskas wrote:
Enoch wrote:'Life is so much better spent sat in your pants on the coach'

Rolf Harris.

Five pounds please.
Ah. It was meant to say "couch". I blame predictive text. Or Freudian slips.

Take your pick.

Unless he was thinking of a school trip?
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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:25 am

Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?

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Post by thebish » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:27 am

Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?

Thanks.
why don't you start us off?

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Post by HMX » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:29 am

Andy Waller wrote:
Puskas wrote:
Enoch wrote:'Life is so much better spent sat in your pants on the coach'

Rolf Harris.

Five pounds please.
Ah. It was meant to say "couch". I blame predictive text. Or Freudian slips.

Take your pick.

Unless he was thinking of a school trip?
Or BWFC organised transport.

Nah...

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:30 am

thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?

Thanks.
why don't you start us off?

He's forever injured, hardly contributes, is defensively cack and very rarely scores.

I'd much sooner have Danns.
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Post by thebish » Thu Aug 07, 2014 8:46 am

Andy Waller wrote:
thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?

Thanks.
why don't you start us off?

He's forever injured, hardly contributes, is defensively cack and very rarely scores.

I'd much sooner have Danns.
fortunately we have both! happy days :D

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Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:00 am

thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:
thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?

Thanks.
why don't you start us off?

He's forever injured, hardly contributes, is defensively cack and very rarely scores.

I'd much sooner have Danns.
fortunately we have both! happy days :D
But I just want Neil...

I'm holding my breath until i get my own way...
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Post by thebish » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:26 am

Andy Waller wrote: But I just want Neil...

I'm holding my breath until i get my own way...
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:27 am

Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?
Last season: the highest pass-completion rate (86%) of any Bolton player to play more than 45 minutes over the season. Not bad for someone usually played at No.10.

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:27 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?
Last season: the highest pass-completion rate (86%) of any Bolton player to play more than 45 minutes over the season. Not bad for someone usually played at No.10.

One goal in 18...

Plus two whole assists!!

Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
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Post by thebish » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:34 am

Andy Waller wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?
Last season: the highest pass-completion rate (86%) of any Bolton player to play more than 45 minutes over the season. Not bad for someone usually played at No.10.

One goal in 18...

Plus two whole assists!!

Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??

if you give a toss about assists - then you should also give something of a toss about the person who assists the assistor...

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 10:36 am

thebish wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?
Last season: the highest pass-completion rate (86%) of any Bolton player to play more than 45 minutes over the season. Not bad for someone usually played at No.10.

One goal in 18...

Plus two whole assists!!

Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??

if you give a toss about assists - then you should also give something of a toss about the person who assists the assistor...
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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:23 am

Don't think I can recall a start of a season where I've felt this pessimistic about our prospects. I can only imagine fans of Blackpool, Birmingham and Leeds are feeling something similar.

Here's to us doing it in the proper Bolton way. When the odds are seemingly stacked against us we surprise everyone. Cmon you white men :pissed:
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:23 am

Andy Waller wrote: Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
Well, me for one. It absolutely pisses me off how often we needlessly concede possession through sloppy passing. I don't ever see the other side give us the ball as often or as easily as we give it to them.
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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:31 am

This will be the third time I've watched a season opener away from home with Our Kid. First was an epic hammering of Leicester, a performance that will possibly never be surpassed for sheer unbelievableness (That one's for you Bobo) whilst the second was at Fulham, a match played at QPR which saw us go one nil up after a fifth minute penalty, only for us to then surrender and get completely paggered.

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by Andy Waller » Thu Aug 07, 2014 11:34 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
Andy Waller wrote: Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
Well, me for one. It absolutely pisses me off how often we needlessly concede possession through sloppy passing. I don't ever see the other side give us the ball as often or as easily as we give it to them.
But of his 86% complete passes (however many that may be) only 2 resulted in goals.

Doesn't that stand to reason that a lot of the balls played were safe, non progressive passes?

I know he's not going to score/assist every time he gets the ball but overall he doesn't contribute enough.

Take for instance Danns, In just over double the games, 6 goals, and 6 assists.

That's a hell of a lot better, i don't care what his pass completion rate was, he still had a better scoring and assist ratio which ultimately wins games.
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 12:55 pm

Andy Waller wrote:
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Can we all please look at what mark Davies actually gives us and not at what he's got potential to give us?
Last season: the highest pass-completion rate (86%) of any Bolton player to play more than 45 minutes over the season. Not bad for someone usually played at No.10.
One goal in 18...

Plus two whole assists!!

Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
Presumably his team-mates.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:01 pm

Andy Waller wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
Andy Waller wrote:Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
Well, me for one. It absolutely pisses me off how often we needlessly concede possession through sloppy passing. I don't ever see the other side give us the ball as often or as easily as we give it to them.
But of his 86% complete passes (however many that may be) only 2 resulted in goals. Doesn't that stand to reason that a lot of the balls played were safe, non progressive passes?
Sounds more like an assumption.

You asked what he brings. At least one provable thing he brings is better ball retention than anybody else at the club. Of course centre-backs can top that list by popping it sideways to each other all day, but that's clearly not what Mark Davies does. It's been noted by several on here that he's the most likely to "make something happen" (and other phrases) around the box; I simply added the fact that he passes better than anyone at the club. If you don't agree, that's fair enough, but "not giving a toss about pass completion" is worryingly close to delighting in ignorance, and something you might want to remind yourself of next time a clod hoofs it into touch.

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Re: Watford Away 09/08/2014 - Match Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Aug 07, 2014 1:46 pm

Andy Waller wrote:Who gives a toss about pass completion rate??
The way to answer that Andy is to ask you the opposite question :

Do you care when a player cock's up a pass ? If you do .... and I assume you do ... then you surely appreciate when someone doesn't tend to do that.
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