If carlsberg did transfer threads.....This would be it!

[Enoch]

You'll all be begging me to accept your apologies at the end of this title winning season!

I'm still with Plymouth. I mean who could possibly not be with such a claim as the one above?

"Tallest Dwarf" is a title.

As I guess is "Shortest Dwarf"?

[StaffsTrotter]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

[Bruce Rioja]

Pitchforks and Anti-Plymouth bedsheets at the ready!!!

Bedsheets, man? Plymouth won't have seen anything quite like it since the Spanish Armada were last in town.

[wigan white]

Pitchforks and Anti-Plymouth bedsheets at the ready!!!

Bedsheets, man? Plymouth won't have seen anything quite like it since the Spanish Armada were last in town.

[Prufrock]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

Give over, everyone knew we were skint when he took over. Either:

a) He knew about it;

or b) he did absolutely no research at all.

I mean, it's a), it's definitely a) but even if it is b) he gets no sympathy on that front.

It's a tough job, but he signed up for it. Still plenty of time before I get worried he's not up to it.

[Worthy4England]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

I'm not sure he has a harder job than Freedman had (although I think he's a better Manager). Lennon looks to have one or two players outside of our affordable wage structure, neither of whom have featured heavily in his plans so far. Freedman had to play players who knew they needed to be moved on - that looks like a real tough gig to keep folks motivated to me...

I still reckon our salary structure will be at least mid-table - so you would broadly expect that's where we'd land...

[wigan white]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

Give over, everyone knew we were skint when he took over. Either:

a) He knew about it;

or b) he did absolutely no research at all.

I mean, it's a), it's definitely a) but even if it is b) he gets no sympathy on that front.

It's a tough job, but he signed up for it. Still plenty of time before I get worried he's not up to it.

TBF, there's a difference to having a "limited budget" and having no feckin money at all. NL stated that he knew he was working to a "Limited Budget", but do we actually know whether he was told when he signed that he wouldnt have enough money to pay someone £5k per week? Even last season, would any of us not have been shocked if it had come out that we couldn't even afford to pay someone £5k a week this season, even after getting rid of Mills, Ream, C.Davies etc???

[thebish]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

I think it was pretty widely know that we were financially up the shitty-creek without the paddly-thing! If he didn't know or realise that - then he failed badly at knowing what he was applying for! I'm not having it that he was promised huge bags of transfer cash... of course we don't KNOW that - but... nahhh - not having that! If he simply ASSUMED he'd get big piles of cash to spend - then he's a daft fecker!!

it seems we are in happy agreement that we should be doing better than our league position now - and (like you) I remain confident that Lenny will see us doing better than this...

COYW!!!

[CAPSLOCK]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

^ that's as mebbe - but it is the job he took on - eyes wide open...

I expect him to be a good manager of what we've got and bring the best out of the squad at his disposal. I don't think bottom three or hovering just above is the best that can be got from this squad - I think we should be half way up the league - that, I will judge as success... and there's PLENTY of time to achieve that! COYW!!!

Except you have no idea of what lennon knew, assumed or was told when he took the job on, other than as he said at the time, to paraphrase the cliche, it was a big challenge that he was looking forward to.

I agree that we are better than our position would suggest and am pretty confident that we will show that.

Give over, everyone knew we were skint when he took over. Either:

a) He knew about it;

or b) he did absolutely no research at all.

I mean, it's a), it's definitely a) but even if it is b) he gets no sympathy on that front.

It's a tough job, but he signed up for it. Still plenty of time before I get worried he's not up to it.

TBF, there's a difference to having a "limited budget" and having no feckin money at all. NL stated that he knew he was working to a "Limited Budget", but do we actually know whether he was told when he signed that he wouldnt have enough money to pay someone £5k per week? Even last season, would any of us not have been shocked if it had come out that we couldn't even afford to pay someone £5k a week this season, even after getting rid of Mills, Ream, C.Davies etc???

Bearing in mind our income is public knowledge and showed no signs of increasing, there's absolutely no excuse for Lennon not knowing exactly where we were at

[Heat666]

BURNLEY have cancelled the contract of striker Marvin Sordell by mutual consent.

Would you have him back???

[BWFC_Insane]

I note in the BN transfer blog, the comment from Iles, that Medo and Spearing are top earners. Know its all relative, but absolutely no doubt IMO, that NL has a tougher job on his hands than the last few incumbents.

Depends, he gets an easier time of it in terms of expectations and also hasn't had the long period of waiting for expensive players to leave.

I think we've been very difficult to manage since coming down. One of the harder jobs around. And for sure it isn't getting easier. It probably isn't much different to when Allardyce arrived, though sadly Sam is a bit of a one off and a better manager than any we've had since.

[wigan white]

Bearing in mind our income is public knowledge and showed no signs of increasing, there's absolutely no excuse for Lennon not knowing exactly where we were at

Yes but when he signed, he'd have been told about the financial situation at the time and possibly projected situation for the future, but as NL said near the end of the season, he hadn't been told what his summer budget would be, showing that what he was originally told upon his signing may have changed. It appears that our financial situation is far worse than any of us knew (possibly including NL as don't forget, he's the manager of the team, not a finance guru). Realistically, did any of us think towards the end of the season that we'd be at a point where we can't pay someone £5k a week even though we've got rid of a few of our high earners?

[StaffsTrotter]

So let me follow this. Before taking us on NL should have had a small army of due diligence guys, going over the books and the playing staff, and secured written guarantees and crystal ball based future commitments on everything connected with both these aspects. If he did this, its now his own fault. If he didn't, its now his own fault. Tough crowd.

[Peter Thompson]

"We'll go with what we've got"....

[Worthy4England]

Bearing in mind our income is public knowledge and showed no signs of increasing, there's absolutely no excuse for Lennon not knowing exactly where we were at

Yes but when he signed, he'd have been told about the financial situation at the time and possibly projected situation for the future, but as NL said near the end of the season, he hadn't been told what his summer budget would be, showing that what he was originally told upon his signing may have changed. It appears that our financial situation is far worse than any of us knew (possibly including NL as don't forget, he's the manager of the team, not a finance guru). Realistically, did any of us think towards the end of the season that we'd be at a point where we can't pay someone £5k a week even though we've got rid of a few of our high earners?

There might not have been a conversation around, we can't afford £<insert number here> per week, but I'm fairly sure there will have been dialogue around overall spending plans at a high level - y'know we currently spend £30.5m on salaries (2014 Accounts) - we need to get that down to £15m <or whatever>....By the way that's still more than X Championship sides yadda, yadda...

On Transfers, we might be able to make £Y available if you sell folks - otherwise there's nowt...

I don't we're significantly "far worse" than anyone expected/knew - in fact, I didn't expect us to get inside the FFP tolerance, but Gartside said we would and we did...

You don't set budget 12 months out...so no real surprise he didn't know what it would be...As for Financial Guru, my 12 year old can understand "you had £x for spends, you've spent £y out of it so you've got nowt left"..

[Worthy4England]

So let me follow this. Before taking us on NL should have had a small army of due diligence guys, going over the books and the playing staff, and secured written guarantees and crystal ball based future commitments on everything connected with both these aspects. If he did this, its now his own fault. If he didn't, its now his own fault. Tough crowd.

Not what I'm saying - but if you think he didn't know the general picture, then I think you're wrong.

[bobo the clown]

You don't set budget 12 months out...so no real surprise he didn't know what it would be...As for Financial Guru, my 12 year old can understand "you had £x for spends, you've spent £y out of it so you've got nowt left"..

Only if you had £x for spends and spent £x would you have nowt left, Shirley .... except in the unlikely event that x = y. Should y be greater than x then you've, in fact, overspent and could be in dire straits.

C'mon ... I expect more than this from you Worthy.

[Prufrock]

You don't set budget 12 months out...so no real surprise he didn't know what it would be...As for Financial Guru, my 12 year old can understand "you had £x for spends, you've spent £y out of it so you've got nowt left"..

Only if you had £x for spends and spent £x would you have nowt left, Shirley .... except in the unlikely event that x = y. Should y be greater than x then you've, in fact, overspent and could be in dire straits.

C'mon ... I expect more than this from you Worthy.

beat me to it!

[Worthy4England]

You don't set budget 12 months out...so no real surprise he didn't know what it would be...As for Financial Guru, my 12 year old can understand "you had £x for spends, you've spent £y out of it so you've got nowt left"..

Only if you had £x for spends and spent £x would you have nowt left, Shirley .... except in the unlikely event that x = y. Should y be greater than x then you've, in fact, overspent and could be in dire straits.

C'mon ... I expect more than this from you Worthy.

See - it is possible that non-Finance Guru's get the broad concept.

Even Pru should get it eventually....

[Prufrock]

I'm in emergency training after Bish's shock retirement