Which muppet can we appoint next?

[Worthy4England]

Agreed.

[BWFC_Insane]

Fair enough. Did he say we'll be signing them whether or not the manager likes it, or did he use the conditional tense ("We would like")? Did he say "And that's just for starters: you can immediately extrapolate this as meaning we will be signing who we jolly well please"?

No he didn't. I guess he'd be a bit pissed off if the new manager said "they're all a bag o shoite" though...

In which case the manager would have to back that opinion up with alternatives, as you or I would in a similar situation. I mean, it's possible that KA and DH will rule by diktat (providing they can come to consensus considering they're 50/50...) but it's far more likely that they will be throwing their experience and help in with the manager, for a common goal. Like most adults in a working situation, they'll bump along and may have their disagreements. In the end, he who signs the cheques has the veto - doesn't mean he demands total control.

Yes I agree. But this is different to the model we have been used to.

[thebish]

Fair enough. Did he say we'll be signing them whether or not the manager likes it, or did he use the conditional tense ("We would like")? Did he say "And that's just for starters: you can immediately extrapolate this as meaning we will be signing who we jolly well please"?

No he didn't. I guess he'd be a bit pissed off if the new manager said "they're all a bag o shoite" though...

In which case the manager would have to back that opinion up with alternatives, as you or I would in a similar situation. I mean, it's possible that KA and DH will rule by diktat (providing they can come to consensus considering they're 50/50...) but it's far more likely that they will be throwing their experience and help in with the manager, for a common goal. Like most adults in a working situation, they'll bump along and may have their disagreements. In the end, he who signs the cheques has the veto - doesn't mean he demands total control.

Yes I agree. But this is different to the model we have been used to.

which - given recent events - might not be a bad thing!!!

[Lord Kangana]

I'm bored of this already. Have we got our new manager yet?

[LeverEnd]

I'm bored of this already. Have we got our new manager yet?

Not yet. Give it.... a couple of days.

[bobo the clown]

I'm bored of this already. Have we got our new manager yet?

Not yet. Give it.... a couple of days.

I was thinking more "48 hours".

[malcd1]

I have been away for the last three days. Have I missed anything?

I hadn't even heard of Chris Wilder until a week or so ago so know nothing about him. However, what I do like is his win percentage has increased at the three clubs he has managed.

Halifax - Win Percentage 38.5% - Points 1.4 per game
Oxford - Win Percentage 45% - Points 1.61 per game
Northampton - Win Percentage 48.3% - Points 1.66 per game

I have simplified the points per game and used his totals from Wiki. It will include cup matches so these are not strictly 'points' as such but offers a different stat based on the games he has managed.

[Bruce Rioja]

I wouldn't know him if he turned up at my door either, Malc, so thanks for that. Looks encouraging

[nelson66]

John Carver !!!
JOHN FECKIN CARVER is apparently on the shortlist of 3
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... xt_season/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

John 3 wins in 5 months Carver

OMG Nooooooooooooooo

I was hoping things were going to get better from now on

[thebish]

John Carver !!!
JOHN FECKIN CARVER is apparently on the shortlist of 3
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... xt_season/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

John 3 wins in 5 months Carver

OMG Nooooooooooooooo

I was hoping things were going to get better from now on

to be fair - that WOULD be an improvement!

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Carver is an interesting one. When I first heard his name linked my lip instinctively curled. But there's a certain sense to it. He's long been one of the best-regarded coaches in the country - he had to retire from professional football at 20 and immediately set about getting his badges and more importantly experience. By the age of 27 he was head of Newcastle's academy; at 34, he was elevated to assistant manager by new Toon boss Bobby Robson.

Obviously his time managing Newcastle was awful. I suspect he was acting more on emotion than intellect, and he’s admitted that he said some things - that he was the best coach in the Premier League, that Mike Williamson got himself sent off on purpose - in order to provoke the players. Let’s be honest, bigger-name managers than him have struggled at that club: Allardyce’s win ratio was 33%, Keegan (second coming) 29%, Pardew 38%, McClaren 23%, Benitez currently 0%.

Being totally honest, I think hiring him would be a risk. But risk is about the potential upside. He wouldn’t be fazed by having KA/DH help him with transfers - at Newcastle it’s more or less all decided by Graham Carr (Alan’s dad). He’s got a good track record of coaching and working with youngsters. He’s definitely enthusiastic – of the names mentioned, he’s the most likely to have offered to walk to Bolton – and has a big point to prove. He wouldn’t be my first choice, but then I haven’t interviewed him.

[thebish]

Carver is an interesting one. When I first heard his name linked my lip instinctively curled. But there's a certain sense to it. He's long been one of the best-regarded coaches in the country - he had to retire from professional football at 20 and immediately set about getting his badges and more importantly experience. By the age of 27 he was head of Newcastle's academy; at 34, he was elevated to assistant manager by new Toon boss Bobby Robson.

Obviously his time managing Newcastle was awful. I suspect he was acting more on emotion than intellect, and he’s admitted that he said some things - that he was the best coach in the Premier League, that Mike Williamson got himself sent off on purpose - in order to provoke the players. Let’s be honest, bigger-name managers than him have struggled at that club: Allardyce’s win ratio was 33%, Keegan (second coming) 29%, Pardew 38%, McClaren 23%, Benitez currently 0%.

bravo!!

[Bruce Rioja]

It'll be interesting to see if any of the three are sat in the stands tomorrow.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It'll be interesting to see if any of the three are sat in the stands tomorrow.

Particularly the one or two in jobs!

[thebish]

It'll be interesting to see if any of the three are sat in the stands tomorrow.

Particularly the one or two in jobs!

now that WOULD provoke comment!

[Armchair Wanderer]

Jimmy Phillips applied for the job? Wise move?

[bobo the clown]

Jimmy Phillips applied for the job? Wise move?

No.

[Norpig]

What's baffling me is if you are currently in a job and you are successful and not on the brink of the sack why would you apply for a job at a financially crippled club like ours???

Wilder is currently at Northampton and apparently a front runner, last week he was drinking champagne after winning promotion and probably the League 2 title with the cobblers (maybe he was in a drunken haze and decided to apply for a laugh?)

Carver is currently out of work so I see he would be interested in the job nothing to lose etc. etc. could be a good move for him and we could benefit he was always seen as a good coach at The Toon?

No idea who the third candidate is but apparently he is also in a job but it is not Browny or Big Sam!

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

What's baffling me is if you are currently in a job and you are successful and not on the brink of the sack why would you apply for a job at a financially crippled club like ours???

Wilder is currently at Northampton and apparently a front runner, last week he was drinking champagne after winning promotion and probably the League 2 title with the cobblers (maybe he was in a drunken haze and decided to apply for a laugh?)

Carver is currently out of work so I see he would be interested in the job nothing to lose etc. etc. could be a good move for him and we could benefit he was always seen as a good coach at The Toon?

No idea who the third candidate is but apparently he is also in a job but it is not Browny or Big Sam!

But with that logic why would Sam leave a Europe bound Bolton for the farce that is Newcastle? Presumably felt they could match his ambition more than we could. It's possible wilder or other managers in a similar situation might feel the same.

[Bijou Bob]

The idea of Carver doesn't fill me with joy, but then not many Leicester fans wanted Ranieri, who'd lost his last match as manager of Greece to the Faroe Islands.