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Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:14 am

I'm Chiropractic.....

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Post by boltonboris » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:27 am

If they call themselves 'Doctor' it'll be because they are one. Wether that's a doctor of medicine or a doctor of comic books.

You were quick to pooh-pooh 'anecdotes' despite the fact that I and others have given examples of when chiropractice has worked.
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:30 am

midlands exile wrote:
boltonboris wrote:And whilst we're being condescending, I'd rather go off results that I've seen PROVEN, from myself and others than your agenda driven ridicule of Chiropractice.

What about Sports Psychology? Feng Shue and Yoga. Allardyce did all of that stuff which is as much 'heresay' as any other science.
I wouldn't call it "agenda driven". Rightly or wrongly, its quite a widely held view, certainly among medical folks. I know a few doctors and they wouldn't go near one.
That's because they have totally different views on treatment of injuries. In my experience Doctors take the easy route, start guessing at symptoms you haven't described then send you off to the pharmacy to pay £7 for some pills you don't need.
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:53 am

boltonboris wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
boltonboris wrote:And whilst we're being condescending, I'd rather go off results that I've seen PROVEN, from myself and others than your agenda driven ridicule of Chiropractice.

What about Sports Psychology? Feng Shue and Yoga. Allardyce did all of that stuff which is as much 'heresay' as any other science.
I wouldn't call it "agenda driven". Rightly or wrongly, its quite a widely held view, certainly among medical folks. I know a few doctors and they wouldn't go near one.
That's because they have totally different views on treatment of injuries. In my experience Doctors take the easy route, start guessing at symptoms you haven't described then send you off to the pharmacy to pay £7 for some pills you don't need.

My Doctor's a fecking quack. Three times I wentto see him about hip pain. He didn't even examine me. Asked me to touch my toes (steady) and then lean to one side and the other, said it wasn't a back problem and prescribed painkillers.

Went to a Chiropractor and my physio who both suggested I had an MRI scan. Went back to the Doctor who said he would (reluctantly) refer me, even though I was going through my private insurance.

Turns out I had Coccydinia and a fractured Sacrum.

Quack. :evil:

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:58 am

Gary the Enfield wrote: Turns out I had Coccydinia and a fractured Sacrum.

Quack.
I diagnose a severe case of duckitis.
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Post by Gary the Enfield » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:26 am

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote: Turns out I had Coccydinia and a fractured Sacrum.

Quack.
I diagnose a severe case of duckitis.

Hmmm.... doesn't fit the bill.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:28 am

Gary the Enfield wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Gary the Enfield wrote: Turns out I had Coccydinia and a fractured Sacrum.

Quack.
I diagnose a severe case of duckitis.

Hmmm.... doesn't fit the bill.
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:29 am

Hoi Sin that one coming...
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Post by ohjimmyjimmy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:34 am

Pack it in or a l'orange for this thread to be closed !

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Post by midlands exile » Wed Sep 19, 2012 4:55 pm

boltonboris wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
boltonboris wrote:And whilst we're being condescending, I'd rather go off results that I've seen PROVEN, from myself and others than your agenda driven ridicule of Chiropractice.

What about Sports Psychology? Feng Shue and Yoga. Allardyce did all of that stuff which is as much 'heresay' as any other science.
I wouldn't call it "agenda driven". Rightly or wrongly, its quite a widely held view, certainly among medical folks. I know a few doctors and they wouldn't go near one.
That's because they have totally different views on treatment of injuries. In my experience Doctors take the easy route, start guessing at symptoms you haven't described then send you off to the pharmacy to pay £7 for some pills you don't need.
There's a difference between GP's and specialists.

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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:11 pm

midlands exile wrote:
There's a difference between GP's and specialists.
to get to a specialist - you normally have to go through your GP - who (for back pain) will normally simply describe pain-killers/muscle relaxants and hope it goes away...

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Post by midlands exile » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:19 pm

thebish wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
There's a difference between GP's and specialists.
to get to a specialist - you normally have to go through your GP - who (for back pain) will normally simply describe pain-killers/muscle relaxants and hope it goes away...
Even professional footballers? I can just see it - ngog, stuey, spearing and co getting run from the Reebok to the local NHS walkin clinic everyday, in that minibus we won in the sherpa van trophy (or similar)...

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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:22 pm

midlands exile wrote:
thebish wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
There's a difference between GP's and specialists.
to get to a specialist - you normally have to go through your GP - who (for back pain) will normally simply describe pain-killers/muscle relaxants and hope it goes away...
Even professional footballers? I can just see it - ngog, stuey, spearing and co getting run from the Reebok to the local NHS walkin clinic everyday, in that minibus we won in the sherpa van trophy (or similar)...
not sure I said that - you seemed to make a fairly general statement about chiropractors per se - ie. beyond the rarified footballing world..

so - are you alleging that specialist back doctors were available - but Coyle (because he is a malevolent force?) insisted that the player go to a quack chiropractor instead?

if not - what IS it that you are trying to say?

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Post by midlands exile » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:42 pm

thebish wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
thebish wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
There's a difference between GP's and specialists.
to get to a specialist - you normally have to go through your GP - who (for back pain) will normally simply describe pain-killers/muscle relaxants and hope it goes away...
Even professional footballers? I can just see it - ngog, stuey, spearing and co getting run from the Reebok to the local NHS walkin clinic everyday, in that minibus we won in the sherpa van trophy (or similar)...
not sure I said that - you seemed to make a fairly general statement about chiropractors per se - ie. beyond the rarified footballing world..

so - are you alleging that specialist back doctors were available - but Coyle (because he is a malevolent force?) insisted that the player go to a quack chiropractor instead?

if not - what IS it that you are trying to say?
I'm saying that the tangent about sloppy GP's is irrelevant, as the whole chiropractor issue came up because ngog went to one, rather than you or me.

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Post by thebish » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:46 pm

midlands exile wrote:
I'm saying that the tangent about sloppy GP's is irrelevant, as the whole chiropractor issue came up because ngog went to one, rather than you or me.

well, I don't know about your qualifications - but I WOULD be worried if he came to me....

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Post by midlands exile » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:49 pm

thebish wrote:
midlands exile wrote:
I'm saying that the tangent about sloppy GP's is irrelevant, as the whole chiropractor issue came up because ngog went to one, rather than you or me.

well, I don't know about your qualifications - but I WOULD be worried if he came to me....
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Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:43 am

looks like jay is crocked and wont play today. further evidence in favour of my arguemantcoyle out. bothroyd in
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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:48 am

bwfcdan94 wrote:looks like jay is crocked and wont play today. further evidence in favour of my arguemantcoyle out. bothroyd in
Oh crap

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Post by bwfcdan94 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 8:52 am

ok then smart ass who is going to A. want to come to our crappy club that has been basically set back at least as far as the days before rioch by are paisley w**nker. and B is going to be good enough to turn things around
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Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Sep 22, 2012 9:13 am

bwfcdan94 wrote:ok then smart ass who is going to A. want to come to are crappy club that has been basically set back at least as far as the days before rioch by are paisley w**nker. and B is going to be good enough to turn things around
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