The Debt.

[Enoch]

Bolton Council have knocked back the planning permission on the Middlebrook redevelopment. Davies has thrown a hissy-fit and threatened to pull out (he can afford to, despite what people think) if they don't budge. The land owners have some financial dirt on the Councillors and are leveraging that info to get it sorted. It's all a bit messy.

Anyhow. Don't expect to see a penny go in until it's sorted.

The cornerstone of Eddie's continued involvement with the club he loves.

A championship side that can live within it's means probably fits his model perfectly. He'd have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for those meddling councillors!

[boltonboris]

Planning permission? What are we after doing now?

Commercial offices, Business academy/school thing and a couple of other units.

[bobo the clown]

Planning permission? What are we after doing now?

Commercial offices, Business academy/school thing and a couple of other units.

Gotta hope this is posturing by the wankers in Planning.

I met some once, not least the WOMAN who gave permission for the Normid at Burnden. Her sense of humour about it wasn't too developed.

[Bruce Rioja]

Planning permission? What are we after doing now?

Commercial offices, Business academy/school thing and a couple of other units.

Ahh, yes, yes. I'd forgotten about that. Cheers.

Do we as to which aspect the planners don't approve? Bear in mind, they are a pack of c*nts that turn stuff down willie nillie in order to justify their own existences.

[BWFC_Insane]

Bolton Council have knocked back the planning permission on the Middlebrook redevelopment. Davies has thrown a hissy-fit and threatened to pull out (he can afford to, despite what people think) if they don't budge. The land owners have some financial dirt on the Councillors and are leveraging that info to get it sorted. It's all a bit messy.

Anyhow. Don't expect to see a penny go in until it's sorted.

What is Davies threatening to pull out of? His own business? Burnden Leisure own Bolton Wanderers or own it in the main. I'm not sure what the threat of pulling out means. Not putting money into the club? Is that not already broadly the direction of travel?

And why would a threat of Davies no longer financially supporting Bolton Wanderers bother the council's planning department and influence them in any way?

[goffy7167]

If it was houses he was offering to build, the council would snatch his hand off!! Really getting p*ssed off with this council!!

[bobo the clown]

That's the socialists for you.

I blame Will the White.

[a1]

can eddie d put the tip back ?

[boltonboris]

Bolton Council have knocked back the planning permission on the Middlebrook redevelopment. Davies has thrown a hissy-fit and threatened to pull out (he can afford to, despite what people think) if they don't budge. The land owners have some financial dirt on the Councillors and are leveraging that info to get it sorted. It's all a bit messy.

Anyhow. Don't expect to see a penny go in until it's sorted.

What is Davies threatening to pull out of? His own business? Burnden Leisure own Bolton Wanderers or own it in the main. I'm not sure what the threat of pulling out means. Not putting money into the club? Is that not already broadly the direction of travel?

And why would a threat of Davies no longer financially supporting Bolton Wanderers bother the council's planning department and influence them in any way?

The council being 'to blame' for the collapse of it's towns club. The business around the stadium. The local rag having even less people but it. The football club is the lifeblood of Bolton I'd imagine.

And by "pulling out" it means 'you're on your fvckin own' pay your own bills. Which, you know, we can't. Davies is a hell of lot wealthier than he's made out. He can feck this money off he pleases.

Personally, I think it'll be resolved, but it'll mean more than one party doing something they definitely shouldn't be doing.

[BWFC_Insane]

Bolton Council have knocked back the planning permission on the Middlebrook redevelopment. Davies has thrown a hissy-fit and threatened to pull out (he can afford to, despite what people think) if they don't budge. The land owners have some financial dirt on the Councillors and are leveraging that info to get it sorted. It's all a bit messy.

Anyhow. Don't expect to see a penny go in until it's sorted.

What is Davies threatening to pull out of? His own business? Burnden Leisure own Bolton Wanderers or own it in the main. I'm not sure what the threat of pulling out means. Not putting money into the club? Is that not already broadly the direction of travel?

And why would a threat of Davies no longer financially supporting Bolton Wanderers bother the council's planning department and influence them in any way?

The council being 'to blame' for the collapse of it's towns club. The business around the stadium. The local rag having even less people but it. The football club is the lifeblood of Bolton I'd imagine.

And by "pulling out" it means 'you're on your fvckin own' pay your own bills. Which, you know, we can't. Davies is a hell of lot wealthier than he's made out. He can feck this money off he pleases.

Personally, I think it'll be resolved, but it'll mean more than one party doing something they definitely shouldn't be doing.

Well, I can buy that planning permission has been refused and Davies is unhappy. The rest of it sounds like Chinese whispers to me. You hear a lot of stuff like this and I just don't buy it really. But I guess it doesn't really matter what I believe.

The club really pushed news of the development plans at the time so it must be pretty important in many ways.

[Hoboh]

Bolton Council have knocked back the planning permission on the Middlebrook redevelopment. Davies has thrown a hissy-fit and threatened to pull out (he can afford to, despite what people think) if they don't budge. The land owners have some financial dirt on the Councillors and are leveraging that info to get it sorted. It's all a bit messy.

Anyhow. Don't expect to see a penny go in until it's sorted.

What is Davies threatening to pull out of? His own business? Burnden Leisure own Bolton Wanderers or own it in the main. I'm not sure what the threat of pulling out means. Not putting money into the club? Is that not already broadly the direction of travel?

And why would a threat of Davies no longer financially supporting Bolton Wanderers bother the council's planning department and influence them in any way?

The council being 'to blame' for the collapse of it's towns club. The business around the stadium. The local rag having even less people but it. The football club is the lifeblood of Bolton I'd imagine.

And by "pulling out" it means 'you're on your fvckin own' pay your own bills. Which, you know, we can't. Davies is a hell of lot wealthier than he's made out. He can feck this money off he pleases.

Personally, I think it'll be resolved, but it'll mean more than one party doing something they definitely shouldn't be doing.

Well, I can buy that planning permission has been refused and Davies is unhappy. The rest of it sounds like Chinese whispers to me. You hear a lot of stuff like this and I just don't buy it really. But I guess it doesn't really matter what I believe.

The club really pushed news of the development plans at the time so it must be pretty important in many ways.

There are quite a few people some of whom I have had contact with over the years who are looking for dodgy council deeds.
You know the feeling, there's a smell, but you just cannot put your finger on where it's coming from (legally anyway).
A look at the fat controllers cohorts and the business they are in rings alarm bells for starters, or is it strange so many councillors are into property and development?

[malcd1]

There was a row a few years back with Tesco who wanted to extend the Middlebrook store and create 300 new jobs. Bolton Council agreed in principal as long as Tesco spent £500k on different projects around Horwich. Tesco offered £100k and so there has been no extension.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/bol ... 347.print/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Only a guess but I hope they are not trying to hold Eddie to ransom in the same way.

[a1]

the bournemouth fiscals make 'interesting' reading , but they'll not get no "£x million in debt" bullshit from the press , as they've all got tentpegs over them -maybe- getting in the play offs

i remember eddie/fartside/paperplateface getting stick for some reason when afcb bought this guy- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokelo_Rantie" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

O_o

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Tentpegs? Rantie? I can normally follow you, a1, but you've lost me there.

[Gary the Enfield]

There was a row a few years back with Tesco who wanted to extend the Middlebrook store and create 300 new jobs. Bolton Council agreed in principal as long as Tesco spent £500k on different projects around Horwich. Tesco offered £100k and so there has been no extension.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/bol ... 347.print/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Only a guess but I hope they are not trying to hold Eddie to ransom in the same way.

... except there has been an extension. To the side. They extended within the footprint and move the canteen upstairs on a mezzanine floor.

[a1]

Tentpegs? Rantie? I can normally follow you, a1, but you've lost me there.

they paid about 3million for that southafrican guy , and folk were all "even fecking bournemouth have more money" "gartside out" etc , he's scored about 2 goals.

(As an aside, his former youth team had a nearly as racialist name as the "super whites" nickname. feel a bit guilty for laughing, sounds like summat dave chappelle probably made up)

anyway...

.. just looked and it looks like it were the BEN that started usuing that particular stick first,
mustve been no "BWFC rip off some scumbag / pissed up away fans being dicks skrike like bitches when some bald bastard in a hi-viz jacket sorts them out / gartside = worse than hitler ", type stories to make up that week.

tentpegs - Pretend i'd mentioned the press and liverpool winning the league .. but less messy.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Nope. Still Ich verstehe nicht amigo!

[a1]

skrike - it means cry

tentpegs - i meant erection , specifically the euphemism 'hard on' . As in ,"we'll not get any "£x million in debt" bullshit from the press , as they've all got hard-ons over them -maybe- getting in the play offs"

it must be a harry redknapp related thing..

its been a full day at least since the results and there has been zero stories or comment about it. they went bump again about five years ago.

their version of phil gartside hasnt needed to make any further statements justifying how they run the business like fartside had to do here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25711189" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

this is about it too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 910887.stm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - from ages ago.

[Lost Leopard Spot]

Don't worry. It's probably my fault... I'm old, you're young, it's generational.

[StaffsTrotter]

looking through some of figures at http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... david-conn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is why I think at lot of the view about high wages we paid when in the PL, has simply to be regarded as the game we were competing in.

2 other things strike me. One is competing in the PL is like a nuclear arms race with self destruction for the majority in it; and two, is I never realised Delia actually owned Norwich and she can seemingly manage money as well as cook