Jaffka's gossip thread on the ins and outs at the 'Bok

[boltonboris]

Worrying thing is though.. This is our 'future'..

And the future looks bleak

[bobo the clown]

Fraizer Campbell... One league goal since August 2010

yes, very odd. I can deal with the idea of an established player coming back & getting selected after 5 games, but he isn't established. Glad for him he's returning to football after 2 serious injuries, but no idea why he's in this squad.

[boltonboris]

Ee scored a skillz goal in da cup innit

[thebish]

Thats a very depressing squad from a "wanting England to do well" point of view...

s'just a friendly squad though... what do you learn by picking lampard and ferdinand? presumably the point is simply to have a look at some new/different combinations - it's not as if this is the actual Euro squad...

[BWFC_Insane]

Thats a very depressing squad from a "wanting England to do well" point of view...

s'just a friendly squad though... what do you learn by picking lampard and ferdinand? presumably the point is simply to have a look at some new/different combinations - it's not as if this is the actual Euro squad...

I'm not bothered about Lampard and Ferdinand.

As BB says, this is picked with the "future" in mind *gulp*.

And its not a criticism of the pick, just of the general quality we have available.....

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Thats a very depressing squad from a "wanting England to do well" point of view...

s'just a friendly squad though... what do you learn by picking lampard and ferdinand? presumably the point is simply to have a look at some new/different combinations - it's not as if this is the actual Euro squad...

Exactly, as I've just written for the day job.

[Bruce Rioja]

And let's not forget that according to Stuart Pearce - picking a football side's not a proper job. He's crawled under floorboards, don't you know?!

[Jokers in White]

I read today that Fulham are going to sign Mahamadou Diarra until the end of the season, why have we not gone in for him he's a free agent for FFS! and yes he's fit before anybody asks. 30yrs old plenty of experience at the top and he is a very good holding midfielder who can win a ball then pass it to a white shirt, cost Real Madrid 22m a few yrs back. You don't pay that sort of money for shit!

[Lord Kangana]

We don't have the money.

[Jokers in White]

We don't have the money.

I'm sure we could of got him until the end of the season, that wouldn't cost alot considering the wages we will free up with our shite going to championship clubs until the end of the season.

[Lord Kangana]

Perhaps I could go one further and suggest we don't have the money of Fulham.

But my hunch would be that we still don't have any extra slack in the system.

[BWFC_Insane]

We don't have the money.

See if Allardyce was in charge he'd not have signed Sordell would he?

But probably would have gone after Diarra on a deal till the end of the season. Which would have been cheaper no doubt than Sordell.

I think rather than it being as simple as "we don't have the money" its a case of a policy to invest in younger players, for re-sale value. Which makes sense....

Until you get to the point we're in and who would be more likely to keep you up and therefore save the club 40 odd million quid?

[Gary the Enfield]

We don't have the money.

See if Allardyce was in charge he'd not have signed Sordell would he?
But probably would have gone after Diarra on a deal till the end of the season. Which would have been cheaper no doubt than Sordell.

I think rather than it being as simple as "we don't have the money" its a case of a policy to invest in younger players, for re-sale value. Which makes sense....

Until you get to the point we're in and who would be more likely to keep you up and therefore save the club 40 odd million quid?

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

Is Sordell shit, then? 'Cos I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. I'm guessing you have?

[Bruce Rioja]

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

Is Sordell shit, then? 'Cos I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. I'm guessing you have?

Come, come, Enfield. BWFC_Insane knows all there is to know about everything. At least attempt to keep up

[BWFC_Insane]

We don't have the money.

See if Allardyce was in charge he'd not have signed Sordell would he?
But probably would have gone after Diarra on a deal till the end of the season. Which would have been cheaper no doubt than Sordell.

I think rather than it being as simple as "we don't have the money" its a case of a policy to invest in younger players, for re-sale value. Which makes sense....

Until you get to the point we're in and who would be more likely to keep you up and therefore save the club 40 odd million quid?

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

Is Sordell shit, then? 'Cos I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. I'm guessing you have?

I'm not saying that.

Its all about what you need at a particular time. We need to stay up. I'm merely posing the question as to whether a youngster like Sordell or a more experienced player like Diarra is more likely to make the impact to keep you up.

Allardyce would have gone for the experience, Coyle for the youth.

Both have shown to work to varying degrees in the past. I think there is a balance to strike between short and long term.

So far as a club IMO we haven't managed to get that balance right.

[Gary the Enfield]

We don't have the money.

See if Allardyce was in charge he'd not have signed Sordell would he?
But probably would have gone after Diarra on a deal till the end of the season. Which would have been cheaper no doubt than Sordell.

I think rather than it being as simple as "we don't have the money" its a case of a policy to invest in younger players, for re-sale value. Which makes sense....

Until you get to the point we're in and who would be more likely to keep you up and therefore save the club 40 odd million quid?

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

Is Sordell shit, then? 'Cos I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. I'm guessing you have?

I'm not saying that.

Its all about what you need at a particular time. We need to stay up. I'm merely posing the question as to whether a youngster like Sordell or a more experienced player like Diarra is more likely to make the impact to keep you up.

Allardyce would have gone for the experience, Coyle for the youth.

Both have shown to work to varying degrees in the past. I think there is a balance to strike between short and long term.

So far as a club IMO we haven't managed to get that balance right.

If we had signed Diarra on a short term deal we would probably have had to pay a massive salary to him. If we are relegated he would be able to walk away at the end of the season.

With Sordell we have the option of keeping him to maintain a strong (young) squad in the Championship or sell him for a (likely) improved fee in the Summer.

IMO that's better business.

[BWFC_Insane]

We don't have the money.

See if Allardyce was in charge he'd not have signed Sordell would he?
But probably would have gone after Diarra on a deal till the end of the season. Which would have been cheaper no doubt than Sordell.

I think rather than it being as simple as "we don't have the money" its a case of a policy to invest in younger players, for re-sale value. Which makes sense....

Until you get to the point we're in and who would be more likely to keep you up and therefore save the club 40 odd million quid?

And if my Aunt had balls she'd be my Uncle.

Is Sordell shit, then? 'Cos I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. I'm guessing you have?

I'm not saying that.

Its all about what you need at a particular time. We need to stay up. I'm merely posing the question as to whether a youngster like Sordell or a more experienced player like Diarra is more likely to make the impact to keep you up.

Allardyce would have gone for the experience, Coyle for the youth.

Both have shown to work to varying degrees in the past. I think there is a balance to strike between short and long term.

So far as a club IMO we haven't managed to get that balance right.

If we had signed Diarra on a short term deal we would probably have had to pay a massive salary to him. If we are relegated he would be able to walk away at the end of the season.

With Sordell we have the option of keeping him to maintain a strong (young) squad in the Championship or sell him for a (likely) improved fee in the Summer.

IMO that's better business.

I don't think going down and losing 40M quid is ever going to be better business than retaining premiership status. IMO.

[Gary the Enfield]

I don't think going down and losing 40M quid is ever going to be better business than retaining premiership status. IMO.[/quote]


I didn't say it was. I said signing Sordell was better business than signing Diarra.

[Bruce Rioja]

I don't think going down and losing 40M quid is ever going to be better business than retaining premiership status. IMO.

You appear to be applying the same logic there that says winning the play-off final is worth £60m

[BWFC_Insane]

I don't think going down and losing 40M quid is ever going to be better business than retaining premiership status. IMO.

I didn't say it was. I said signing Sordell was better business than signing Diarra.[/quote]

My point being that in the position we are, the only thing that should matter IMO is which is more likely to make the biggest impact in helping us stay in the top flight.

Anyhow its a circular argument so........