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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:50 am

Back in the early '80's when we began our slide I saw Tony Henry be sold to Oldham. Oldham ffs.

Our best & classiest player at the time ... & I knew then that we were in trouble as a club.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:22 am

Newsome, but again, turned out he was kernackered

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:08 am

Andy Dibble.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by ratters » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:17 am

Going back a bit:-
Denis Stevens (to Everton), Wyn Davies (Newcastle), Franny Lee (City), Dave Hatton (Blackpool) and later Peter Reid.

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Prufrock » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:18 am

Wilshere and Sturridge would've been nice :D.

Michael Johansen.

Selling Cahill when we did defo looks like a gamble gone hugely wrong too.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:30 am

Jonathan Walters

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:32 am

Asa Hartford.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by clapton is god » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:41 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:Asa Hartford.
Now, he was a "whole hearted player"*, as some daft commentator said on TV.

*For those who don't remember those times, he was found to have a hole in his heart.

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:54 am

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Would love Sturridge back, really showed his potential on loan but like Wilshere he seems a permacrock!
Common theme here. Permacrock became a thing at the Reebok when Coyle was around...surely can't be coincidence...

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Prufrock » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:00 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Wilshere and Sturridge would've been nice :D.

Michael Johansen.

Selling Cahill when we did defo looks like a gamble gone hugely wrong too.
Wasn't he hemming and hawing over a new contract with us when we eventually sold? And I read on here that we agreed a £15m fee with City a few months before that they pulled out. Cracking player, one of the best CBs we've had, but I'm glad we got a decent fee for him when we did rather than risk losing him for nowt.

Would love Sturridge back, really showed his potential on loan but like Wilshere he seems a permacrock!
We went down on goal difference. I'd rather have kept him, lost him for free but still been in the Prem!
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:10 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:Andy Dibble.
He was fantastic in that loan spell. I remember standing behind the goal at Stoke and Mark Stein curled a beauty towards the top corner, the kind you sometimes just have to admire even when it goes in against you. Except it was outdone by an amazing backwards leap and mid-air twist by Dibble, as he scooped it one-handed to safety.
Maybe it's rose-tinted hindsight, or the angle I was at made it look better, but I've never seen a better save up close and live.
The disappointment at being unable to sign him was tempered by the arrival of Keith Branagan a year later, although to my memory the time between the signings seems much longer. The end of one era and beginning of another I suppose.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:48 pm

throwawayboltonian wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Wilshere and Sturridge would've been nice :D.

Michael Johansen.

Selling Cahill when we did defo looks like a gamble gone hugely wrong too.
Wasn't he hemming and hawing over a new contract with us when we eventually sold? And I read on here that we agreed a £15m fee with City a few months before that they pulled out. Cracking player, one of the best CBs we've had, but I'm glad we got a decent fee for him when we did rather than risk losing him for nowt.

Would love Sturridge back, really showed his potential on loan but like Wilshere he seems a permacrock!
We spunked it on Sordell n Ream

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by danardif1 » Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:27 am

Recently Cahill was probably the main one... defenders as good as him are hard to come by and we let him far too cheaply without any hope of adequately replacing him.

Also would suggest we could've fought more to keep Anelka another season or so. It felt like he was just getting started with us before Chelsea came a-knocking. We got a good price for him but again he was a player that was nearly impossible to replace... especially when the replacement was Elmander! 10 goals in 18 in that first half of the season before we sold him, probably would've cruised past 20 for the season had he stuck around.

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by CAPSLOCK » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:13 pm

danardif1 wrote:Recently Cahill was probably the main one... defenders as good as him are hard to come by and we let him far too cheaply without any hope of adequately replacing him.
It was either what we got or nothing

danardif1 wrote:Also would suggest we could've fought more to keep Anelka another season or so.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:14 pm

I think Cahill had done his time here. We'd have just been holding his career back not letting him go. The problem as said was that we spent the money so badly I don't think we could have done worse if we'd actively tried to.

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by boltonboris » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:16 pm

Prufrock wrote:
throwawayboltonian wrote:
Prufrock wrote:Wilshere and Sturridge would've been nice :D.

Michael Johansen.

Selling Cahill when we did defo looks like a gamble gone hugely wrong too.
Wasn't he hemming and hawing over a new contract with us when we eventually sold? And I read on here that we agreed a £15m fee with City a few months before that they pulled out. Cracking player, one of the best CBs we've had, but I'm glad we got a decent fee for him when we did rather than risk losing him for nowt.

Would love Sturridge back, really showed his potential on loan but like Wilshere he seems a permacrock!
We went down on goal difference. I'd rather have kept him, lost him for free but still been in the Prem!
We wouldn't have stayed up in my opinion
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Prufrock » Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:32 pm

Really? Sordell and Ream made zero contribution. An England centre-half was worth a point over the rest of that season,! I mean, it's with hindsight of course (and if we'd kept him and he'd gone for free no doubt folk would've said we should have taken the cash and would probably have stayed up anyway).

The error was letting the contracts of good players run down. That and jizzing away the cash we did get.
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by boltonboris » Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:31 pm

Prufrock wrote:Really? Sordell and Ream made zero contribution. An England centre-half was worth a point over the rest of that season,! I mean, it's with hindsight of course (and if we'd kept him and he'd gone for free no doubt folk would've said we should have taken the cash and would probably have stayed up anyway).

The error was letting the contracts of good players run down. That and jizzing away the cash we did get.
From memory (can't be arsed checking) we kept more clean sheets after he'd gone than we did previously that season

Also, would he have scored the 2 goals that Wheater scored in the win against Blackburn(?) for instance?
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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by jaffka » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:34 pm

We also should have simply made the players sign contract extensions, as that's clearly how it works.

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Re: Players you wished we'd kept

Post by Prufrock » Thu Sep 10, 2015 3:42 pm

Or sold him for proper money when they weren't going for free the next summer. When the City deal fell through there was still supposedly £12m on the table from Arsenal. Think how many N'Gog's we could've got.

There's clearly never going to be a winner in a hypothetical debate about what would have happened if Cahill had stayed but, accepting I can't prove anything, you're mad if you think we were better without him than with!
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