Sordell ... what's the point ?

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Sordell ... what's the point ?

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Sep 15, 2012 7:49 pm

If you were Marvin Sordell, right now, would you be thinking it waas time to prepare to exit ?

I sure would.
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Re: Sordell ... what's the point ?

Post by wanderers_on_tour » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:17 pm

In a word...no. We're still very early into a very long season. Last season was a travesty and I hope someone at the club apologised to the lad but hasn't he started 3 out of 5 of league games this season? (I could be wrong...)

I agree i'd like to see him and Ngog as the future strike partnership but atm I guess Kevo is having another of his indian summers and it would be a little foolish to tamper with one of the few positives to a poor start. Plus the fact that, rightly or wrongly, Davies is still the club captain and so maybe he does deserve a little extra clout at a time neither striker has really fire.

Annoyed, frustrated yes but I think preparing for the exit is very premature.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:29 pm

I was surprised to see N'Gog get the nod ahead of him today but SKD is playing too well at the moment not to be in the starting line up.
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Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:38 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:I was surprised to see N'Gog get the nod ahead of him today but SKD is playing too well at the moment not to be in the starting line up.
I was possibly more surprised to Afobe come on rather than Sordell when N'Gog pulled up. Very spatially unaware today was Gooner boy.
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Post by thebish » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:43 pm

not that long ago people were saying Afobe was Mr magic!! now that's Sordell?? is there really that much to choose between them?

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Post by ChrisC » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:54 pm

thebish wrote:not that long ago people were saying Afobe was Mr magic!! now that's Sordell?? is there really that much to choose between them?
No there isn't. Which is why Sordell should play because he is our player and I would rather develop him over an Arsenal player.

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Post by thebish » Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:56 pm

ChrisC wrote:
thebish wrote:not that long ago people were saying Afobe was Mr magic!! now that's Sordell?? is there really that much to choose between them?
No there isn't. Which is why Sordell should play because he is our player and I would rather develop him over an Arsenal player.
hmmm.. I think there are plenty of games in the season - and both will get plenty of opportunity... hadn't sordell been away with the england tiddlers squad - or was i dreaming that?

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Post by officer_dibble » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:15 pm

It were the sub that got me. I get Davo starting - he's scoring...but whats afobe doing coming on? sordell scored in the last home league game.

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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:43 pm

Mybe coyle is just trying to make sordell hungry. It's classic man management. Sign a young player for a big fee then leave them on the bench for 6 months before picking a loanie reserve ahead of them.You should never underestimate coyles legendary manmanagement skills

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Post by a1 » Sat Sep 15, 2012 11:43 pm

bobo the clown wrote:If you were Marvin Sordell, right now, would you be thinking it waas time to prepare to exit ?

I sure would.
the lack of away points might see him win this out.

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Post by CAPSLOCK » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:45 am

Ianmooreslovechild wrote:Mybe coyle is just trying to make sordell hungry. It's classic man management. Sign a young player for a big fee then leave them on the bench for 6 months before picking a loanie reserve ahead of them.You should never underestimate coyles legendary manmanagement skills
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Re: Sordell ... what's the point ?

Post by Prufrock » Sun Sep 16, 2012 1:24 am

He's the only one who looks like he might score. Think a Mr Klasnic will tell you how that ends.

That said, tonight's not for bitching. We won, and I don't right now care how. Enjoy it. Might not happen so often!
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Post by cecil.bob » Sun Sep 16, 2012 3:11 am

Prufrock wrote:He's the only one who looks like he might score. Think a Mr Klasnic will tell you how that ends.

That said, tonight's not for bitching. We won, and I don't right now care how. Enjoy it. Might not happen so often!
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Post by boltonboris » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:14 am

If Sordell was good enough, he'd get in the side on a more consistent basis. He was always going to be behind Ngog and Davies (righty so, in my mind). Reason Afobe came on was to keep the 4-3-3 we had. Which worked well in the first half. But it worked well because we had two more defensive midfielders. Then he made that Pratley / Andrews sub. I shook my head.
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Post by Ianmooreslovechild » Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:56 am

boltonboris wrote:If Sordell was good enough, he'd get in the side on a more consistent basis. He was always going to be behind Ngog and Davies (righty so, in my mind). Reason Afobe came on was to keep the 4-3-3 we had. Which worked well in the first half. But it worked well because we had two more defensive midfielders. Then he made that Pratley / Andrews sub. I shook my head.
I dont get how that wouldnt have happened with sordell coming on.

You can only assume that coyle believed Afobe was more likely to nick a goal. The reasoning was probably the same bringing on Pratley. You have to remember the OC mindset. When the team is struggling/under pressure bring players on who might nick a goal and create a winning margin even if in doing so it makes us more likely to concede.However if Andrews was poor and we had lost momentum there is only Pratley as an alternative unless Ream or Ricketts play there. For me I still think Alonso may be our other defensive midfielder but coyle still thinks he's a left back.

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Re: Sordell ... what's the point ?

Post by thebish » Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:02 am

Prufrock wrote:He's the only one who looks like he might score.
is he? Davo HAS scored and didn't Afobe score a hat-trick?

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Post by 50sQuiff » Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:39 am

So we have Sordell struggling for confidence and clearly anxious to get his first league goal. He promptly gets it with a really tidy finish from KD's cross. And what does Coyle do? SUBS HIM almost immediately! The most bizarre bit of man-management ever? Though god knows what goes on behind closed doors at the Reebok.

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Post by Hoboh » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:32 am

50sQuiff wrote:So we have Sordell struggling for confidence and clearly anxious to get his first league goal. He promptly gets it with a really tidy finish from KD's cross. And what does Coyle do? SUBS HIM almost immediately! The most bizarre bit of man-management ever? Though god knows what goes on behind closed doors at the Reebok.
God might do :mrgreen:

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Post by 50sQuiff » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:40 am

Hoboh wrote:
50sQuiff wrote:So we have Sordell struggling for confidence and clearly anxious to get his first league goal. He promptly gets it with a really tidy finish from KD's cross. And what does Coyle do? SUBS HIM almost immediately! The most bizarre bit of man-management ever? Though god knows what goes on behind closed doors at the Reebok.
God might do :mrgreen:
True. I imagine Owen's game plan revolves around hope, prayer and calls to the almighty. I'd be happier if he just gave Bruce Rioch a ring :)

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Post by Martin_Cruise » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:26 am

50sQuiff wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
50sQuiff wrote:So we have Sordell struggling for confidence and clearly anxious to get his first league goal. He promptly gets it with a really tidy finish from KD's cross. And what does Coyle do? SUBS HIM almost immediately! The most bizarre bit of man-management ever? Though god knows what goes on behind closed doors at the Reebok.
God might do :mrgreen:
True. I imagine Owen's game plan revolves around hope, prayer and calls to the almighty. I'd be happier if he just gave Bruce Rioch a ring :)
Not for advice on how to defend a big half time lead against Watford I hope.

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