Dougie Freedman - New Manager
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I think he was just confirming that HWSNBN wasn't making training enjoyableofficer_dibble wrote:It took longer than a day for us to apoint coyle though?
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Note ricketts is not now saying training is enjoyable. Just seems to be suggesting that the team actually do some training and tactical work now. God only knows what they did under the last bloke!TKIZ! wrote:I think he was just confirming that HWSNBN wasn't making training enjoyableofficer_dibble wrote:It took longer than a day for us to apoint coyle though?
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you mean... what??? you think Coyle was inept??BWFC_Insane wrote:Note ricketts is not now saying training is enjoyable. Just seems to be suggesting that the team actually do some training and tactical work now. God only knows what they did under the last bloke!TKIZ! wrote:I think he was just confirming that HWSNBN wasn't making training enjoyableofficer_dibble wrote:It took longer than a day for us to apoint coyle though?
clearly there was a problem - but I'd be a little bit shy of overplaying what players say when a new manager arrives - they are pretty much bound to say that summat is better or that there is a new confidence - or a new way of doing things - if they didn't, they'd be a bit daft...
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And they get to play three pots and in with Keanu Reeves.
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I see Blackburn have just sacked their 3rd manager of the season. I think we can safely say that compared to our fellow relegated clubs, we've done pretty well to get Dougie despite the odd teething problem. What a mess they are both in. Here's to Dougie's Superwhite army and our march on the Prem!
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If he was the Blackburn manager, he'd have been sacked in January.
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Even at his lowest point as Bolton manager his PPG ratio was above Appleton and Berg.boltonboris wrote:If he was the Blackburn manager, he'd have been sacked in January.
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I thought it might be.. But that wouldn't have mattered to them.
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I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have left Palace to work for those loons.boltonboris wrote:I thought it might be.. But that wouldn't have mattered to them.
Talking of them, I'm sure I read something when they appointed Kean where they described him as 'potentially the new Owen Coyle', in response to concerns about his lack of experience. Might he turn up there next?
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HopefullyLeverEnd wrote:I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have left Palace to work for those loons.boltonboris wrote:I thought it might be.. But that wouldn't have mattered to them.
Talking of them, I'm sure I read something when they appointed Kean where they described him as 'potentially the new Owen Coyle', in response to concerns about his lack of experience. Might he turn up there next?
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I'm not a "stat" person, but if we looked at our results since Dooooogie took over, and worked out a PPG, how would we sit in the league?
I know it doesn't mean anything, it would just be interesting to know.
I know it doesn't mean anything, it would just be interesting to know.
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Quite crude, but here is similar to what you want...Andy Waller wrote:I'm not a "stat" person, but if we looked at our results since Dooooogie took over, and worked out a PPG, how would we sit in the league?
I know it doesn't mean anything, it would just be interesting to know.
League Table as at 24 October
1 Leicester 25
2 Cardiff 25
3 Boro 22
4 Palace 21
5 Blackburn 20
6 Wolves 20
7 Huddersfield 20
8 Leeds 19
9 Hull 19
10 Brighton 18
11 Forest 18
12 Blackpool 17
13 Derby 17
14 Burnley 17
15 Watford 16
16 Bolton 15
17 Barnsley 15
18 Charlton 13
19 Millwall 13
20 Birmingham 13
21 Bristol 11
22 Peterborough 9
23 Wednesday 9
24 Ipswich 7
League Table as at now
1 Cardiff 75
2 Hull 68
3 Watford 66
4 Palace 65
5 Forest 60
6 Leicester 59
7 Brighton 59
8 Bolton 54
9 Boro 54
10 Leeds 52
11 Burnley 49
12 Birmingham 49
13 Derby 48
14 Charlton 47
15 Millwall 47
16 Huddersfield 47
17 Blackpool 46
18 Blackburn 46
19 Ipswich 46
20 Barnsley 44
21 Wednesday 43
22 Peterborough 42
23 Wolves 42
24 Bristol 39
League Table only counting games during Dougie's reign
1 Cardiff 50
2 Watford 50
3 Hull 49
4 Palace 44
5 Forest 42
6 Brighton 41
7 Bolton 39
8 Ipswich 39
9 Birmingham 36
10 Leicester 34
11 Charlton 34
12 Millwall 34
13 Wednesday 34
14 Leeds 33
15 Peterborough 33
16 Boro 32
17 Burnley 32
18 Derby 31
19 Blackpool 29
20 Barnsley 29
21 Bristol 28
22 Huddersfield 27
23 Blackburn 26
24 Wolves 22
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If you take the PPG since Dawson came into the side we'd be top of the league with 83/84 points.
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Which means absolutely nothing. We've gotten the 7th most points whilst Dougie has been here. That is all that counts when it comes top the reality of the league table. It isn't bad, but we need to do better if we hope to get into the Premiership in the future...BWFC_Insane wrote:If you take the PPG since Dawson came into the side we'd be top of the league with 83/84 points.
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I'm not sure it means any less than looking at PPG on any arbitrary set of games. It would be easy to argue that had Dougie been here in the summer we'd have had Dawson or another proper centre back, and been far far better. It's easy to say that once he brought his own players in to the side we've been going at a far higher PPG.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Which means absolutely nothing. We've gotten the 7th most points whilst Dougie has been here. That is all that counts when it comes top the reality of the league table. It isn't bad, but we need to do better if we hope to get into the Premiership in the future...BWFC_Insane wrote:If you take the PPG since Dawson came into the side we'd be top of the league with 83/84 points.
Bottom line is that we're getting better. From a very very sickly state the green shoots of recovery are showing.
Personally I don't think we'll make the play-offs this year, and for me the focus is well and truly on whether these green shoots can really blossom into something next season.
Fingers firmly crossed.
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lolAbdoulaye's Twin wrote:League Table only counting games during Dougie's reign
1 Cardiff 50
2 Watford 50
3 Hull 49
4 Palace 44
5 Forest 42
6 Brighton 41
7 Bolton 39
8 Ipswich 39
9 Birmingham 36
10 Leicester 34
11 Charlton 34
12 Millwall 34
13 Wednesday 34
14 Leeds 33
15 Peterborough 33
16 Boro 32
17 Burnley 32
18 Derby 31
19 Blackpool 29
20 Barnsley 29
21 Bristol 28
22 Huddersfield 27
23 Blackburn 26
24 Wolves 22
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Re: Dougie Freedman - New Manager
I was thinking more of the whole season sorry! PPG per team over the season so far.
Eg, if Cardiff had played 20 games under MM, won 10, drawn 5 and lost 5, that would give them 35 points. Giving them a PPG of 1.75.
If Freedman had been in charge of us for 10 games in which we won 4, drew 3 and lost 3 that would give us 15 points and a PPG of 1.5.
By that average we would have 30 points over the 20 games.
I'd just like to see Dooogies average implimented into the current table.
Pointless I know..
Eg, if Cardiff had played 20 games under MM, won 10, drawn 5 and lost 5, that would give them 35 points. Giving them a PPG of 1.75.
If Freedman had been in charge of us for 10 games in which we won 4, drew 3 and lost 3 that would give us 15 points and a PPG of 1.5.
By that average we would have 30 points over the 20 games.
I'd just like to see Dooogies average implimented into the current table.
Pointless I know..
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But it doesn't mean anything because you changed history. It didn't happen. The points attained since Dougie arrived did happen. The probability of what you are extrapolating is probably in the billions to one.BWFC_Insane wrote:I'm not sure it means any less than looking at PPG on any arbitrary set of games. It would be easy to argue that had Dougie been here in the summer we'd have had Dawson or another proper centre back, and been far far better. It's easy to say that once he brought his own players in to the side we've been going at a far higher PPG.Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:Which means absolutely nothing. We've gotten the 7th most points whilst Dougie has been here. That is all that counts when it comes top the reality of the league table. It isn't bad, but we need to do better if we hope to get into the Premiership in the future...BWFC_Insane wrote:If you take the PPG since Dawson came into the side we'd be top of the league with 83/84 points.
Bottom line is that we're getting better. From a very very sickly state the green shoots of recovery are showing.
Personally I don't think we'll make the play-offs this year, and for me the focus is well and truly on whether these green shoots can really blossom into something next season.
Fingers firmly crossed.
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From ATs data, I think Dougie would be at 1.625 ppg which would put us into 5th.Andy Waller wrote:I was thinking more of the whole season sorry! PPG per team over the season so far.
Eg, if Cardiff had played 20 games under MM, won 10, drawn 5 and lost 5, that would give them 35 points. Giving them a PPG of 1.75.
If Freedman had been in charge of us for 10 games in which we won 4, drew 3 and lost 3 that would give us 15 points and a PPG of 1.5.
By that average we would have 30 points over the 20 games.
I'd just like to see Dooogies average implimented into the current table.
Pointless I know..
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