Away at Mick McCarthy's Super Ipswich Town

[Worthy4England]

I don't think he should be criticised for not usually lasting 90 mins, he runs himself ragged and then gets taken off for fresh legs (or SKD!). No shame in that.

There's no shame in a professional footballer not being able to last 90 minutes? Oh my giddy aunt. Occasionally could see me agreeing with that. Week in, week out it's flippin criminal negligence.

[boltonboris]

He plays at quite a high intensity. But nowhere near the same intensity of lets say, Wayne Rooney. Who does that 50 times a season at least and smokes 20 a day.

[LeverEnd]

I don't think he should be criticised for not usually lasting 90 mins, he runs himself ragged and then gets taken off for fresh legs (or SKD!). No shame in that.

There's no shame in a professional footballer not being able to last 90 minutes? Oh my giddy aunt. Occasionally could see me agreeing with that. Week in, week out it's flippin criminal negligence.

I'm not saying he can't last 90 minutes, and I expect he wants to stay on. I mean that the way he plays makes him an obvious candidate for a 'fresh legs' substitution and that I don't think the stat that you quoted should be used to berate him with. I agree with the Insane one that he'd be a perfect foil for a finisher and I'd try him with Sordell at Charlton. Out of all our strikers he's made the biggest contributiuon to the run we've had.

Problem is that our lack of a goalscorer means that the other abilities of the forwards we do have aren't fully appreciated because we so obviously need the kind of skills that they lack. If that makes sense. If Ngog's unselfish play was providing the bullets for a poacher I think he'd get a lot more credit.

[Worthy4England]

I don't think he should be criticised for not usually lasting 90 mins, he runs himself ragged and then gets taken off for fresh legs (or SKD!). No shame in that.

There's no shame in a professional footballer not being able to last 90 minutes? Oh my giddy aunt. Occasionally could see me agreeing with that. Week in, week out it's flippin criminal negligence.

I'm not saying he can't last 90 minutes, and I expect he wants to stay on. I mean that the way he plays makes him an obvious candidate for a 'fresh legs' substitution and that I don't think the stat that you quoted should be used to berate him with. I agree with the Insane one that he'd be a perfect foil for a finisher and I'd try him with Sordell at Charlton. Out of all our strikers he's made the biggest contributiuon to the run we've had.

Problem is that our lack of a goalscorer means that the other abilities of the forwards we do have aren't fully appreciated because we so obviously need the kind of skills that they lack. If that makes sense. If Ngog's unselfish play was providing the bullets for a poacher I think he'd get a lot more credit.

I'm more than happy to use that stat I quoted to berate him. 11 sets of 90 minutes he's lasted, in two years.

He had plenty of better foils as finishers than we have when he was at Liverpool. He was pretty shit there too.

We talk about him as an aside to one of our problems being the lack of a goalscorer, but he's one of the guys that should be goalscoring - not an adjunct to it.

I don't think he has what it takes to be in the Prem either as it happens - although it is possible for strikers to develop late I guess.

I'd have no problems with him and Sordell being given a go at Charlton. I found myself largely in agreement with PT at weekend (abandon hope all ye that enter here). The whole forward thing needs sorting out. N'gog is part of that equation, not different from it. Whereas some people think we're only one person short upfront, I happen to believe we're two. That is all.

[LeverEnd]

Well I guess that's where we differ. I'm still holding out hope that he'll work out where the goal is at some point. Starting at the Valley would be nice. We're definitely lacking up front though, no doubt about it. Dougie would call it a 'balance issue', i.e the balance between strikers who can't score regularly (4) and strikers who can (0). If Ngog is David Reeves we need a Tony Philliskirk!

[bobo the clown]

Well I guess that's where we differ. I'm still holding out hope that he'll work out where the goal is at some point. Starting at the Valley would be nice. We're definitely lacking up front though, no doubt about it. Dougie would call it a 'balance issue', i.e the balance between strikers who can't score regularly (4) and strikers who can (0). If Ngog is David Reeves we need a Tony Philliskirk!

Well, he's not lost. He's at Oldham !


Less facetiously, whatever happened to his son who we were hoping to sign but Chelsea came running in & knicked from under our noses ?

[mrkint]

Danny? He was released by Chelsea, signed for Sheffield United, was then released by them and is now at Coventry on a year-long deal.

Since he signed professional terms at Chelsea, he has made a grand total of 9 league apperances (13 overall) and has scored 0 goals.

[bobo the clown]

Danny? He was released by Chelsea, signed for Sheffield United, was then released by them and is now at Coventry on a yearOooooh. Missed ou-long deal.

Since he signed professional terms at Chelsea, he has made a grand total of 9 league apperances (13 overall) and has scored 0 goals.

Oooooooh. Missed out there then.

[mrkint]

Danny? He was released by Chelsea, signed for Sheffield United, was then released by them and is now at Coventry on a yearOooooh. Missed ou-long deal.

Since he signed professional terms at Chelsea, he has made a grand total of 9 league apperances (13 overall) and has scored 0 goals.

Oooooooh. Missed out there then.

What the blithering crin did you do to my post?

[CrazyHorse]

[bobo the clown]

I'm very old !!

[LeverEnd]

We'd probably be better off with a 50 yr old Tony then. Even at his peak he made the 2013 version of SKD look mobile, so there was nothing to lose in that respect. What a finisher though. Could knock a penalthy in under pressure as well. As Sir David of Higsonshire used to say ' The Ice-Man cometh to Burnden park'. Then Eidur came along and cornered that lazy headline.

[Raven]

Well I guess that's where we differ. I'm still holding out hope that he'll work out where the goal is at some point. Starting at the Valley would be nice. We're definitely lacking up front though, no doubt about it. Dougie would call it a 'balance issue', i.e the balance between strikers who can't score regularly (4) and strikers who can (0). If Ngog is David Reeves we need a Tony Philliskirk!

I'd prefer either of those two over that plank Ngog.

[Worthy4England]

Well I guess that's where we differ. I'm still holding out hope that he'll work out where the goal is at some point. Starting at the Valley would be nice. We're definitely lacking up front though, no doubt about it. Dougie would call it a 'balance issue', i.e the balance between strikers who can't score regularly (4) and strikers who can (0). If Ngog is David Reeves we need a Tony Philliskirk!

I'd prefer either of those two over that plank Ngog.

All things considered, a well thought out an balanced response.

[Raven]

Didnt need to be well thought out on the subject of Ngog

[BWFC_Insane]

Didnt need to be well thought out on the subject of Ngog

I'm sure you said similar on Elmander, yet since he's gone we've never had anyone remotely as good.

[Raven]

Yep can't hide that one, both planks, we just have a load of them, should pop down to Jewsons!

[BWFC_Insane]

Yep can't hide that one, both planks, we just have a load of them, should pop down to Jewsons!

Or perhaps, you slightly underrate strikers we have at Bolton.

Just saying, it's a possibility like......

[Lost Leopard Spot]

N'gog is a plank.

For (for) - 2
Against - 1

[LeverEnd]

N'gog is a plank.

For (for) - 2
Against - 1

I think he's quite good.