Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
↑↑↑↑ Contrarian.Enoch wrote:Bolton bossed the first 15 minutes, Wolves the next 20. Bolton were certainly the better side throughout the second half. They never looked like scoring, even when they scored! We created half a dozen clear cut chances, I swear some of them were harder to miss.
They looked better footballers, we showed more endeavour. We lack that bit of quality, particularly in front of goal. At least we had the nous to create chances, for all their looking good on the ball they created very little, one long range effort being the only time they really threatened our goal.
By the way, Craig Davis was definitely not our best player.
I spent the night in Wolverhampton, it is not a shithole. Least not the bits I saw.
Wolverhampton is no worse than most industrial towns who were ravaged first by Hitler, then by the concrete planners and finally by recession. It's hardly lovely, far from awful and blighted by one of the worst accents known to man.
From what I heard we were 'OK'. Could have done better but could have come away with a point. Missing penalties doesn't help. But we're are now 8 games in with 5 points and just one win. Near misses are beginning to pile up and can't be good enough.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Pissed up rose tinter.
Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Well I got lost on the way back to the station and ended up seeing the very worse Wolverhampton has to offer and can confirm it is absolutely horrible.Enoch wrote:Bolton bossed the first 15 minutes, Wolves the next 20. Bolton were certainly the better side throughout the second half. They never looked like scoring, even when they scored! We created half a dozen clear cut chances, I swear some of them were harder to miss.
They looked better footballers, we showed more endeavour. We lack that bit of quality, particularly in front of goal. At least we had the nous to create chances, for all their looking good on the ball they created very little, one long range effort being the only time they really threatened our goal.
By the way, Craig Davis was definitely not our best player.
I spent the night in Wolverhampton, it is not a shithole. Least not the bits I saw.
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Molyneux to the station is about half a mile.
I wouldn't recommend anyone the journey from Burnden to Trinity Street as an example of the beauties of our town. Thank God we have Regent Street, eh ?
I wouldn't recommend anyone the journey from Burnden to Trinity Street as an example of the beauties of our town. Thank God we have Regent Street, eh ?
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Don't forget Newport Street and The Gateway to Bolton! Spectacular views.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Don't be so negative. It's Bolton's Artistic Quarter! What's more, all those tattooists are 'award winning'!LeverEnd wrote:Don't forget Newport Street and The Gateway to Bolton! Spectacular views.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Yup. Theres not much to say thats not been debated a 1000 times, albeit the wait, see and hope (keep Freedman) posters seem to have melted into the background - where are you, after all we're only 8 games into the season.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Can't blame Garvan for taking the penalty. Can blame others for not stepping up. Can blame Garvan for taking a poor penalty.
Attacking 4-4-2, light on tacklers, always going to concede possession. Imagine if Mavies had been in for Garvan.
Surprised we played such an open line-up. Not surprised DF gets blamed for it, although I'd rather lose 1-0 with an attacking 4-4-2 than with a defensive 4-5-1. Slightly surprised at the lack of comment on here. Maybe folk have given up. Can't blame 'em.
I remember us losing 1-0 not unexpectedly at Wolves then going unbeaten for 23 games. It'd be nice if that happened again.
The entire club (incl fans) are exuding an aura of resignation, grim desparation of whether we can cobble together enough points to survive this season and grateful if we occasionally put together a 20 min performance to pull out of the fire, points against the likes of rotherham. Expectations have certainly been re-set - no wonder DF didn't want people looking back and comparing with the past.
Something needs to change and I think everyone knows what. Its a question of what will force that change. Doesn't seem like STs/ gates being down is enough. Doesn't seem like results & performances will do it. So seems to me that the fans have tilt the balance to make it happen. Pitchfork time
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Statistically and according to reports, yesterday looks like one of our better performances. The Derby game should be an interesting measure of whether there is any real improvement. (And by 'real' I mean enough to keep us in this division).
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
And sharing location space with the dearest mens' shop in Bolton by some miles. Top area thatWilliam the White wrote:Don't be so negative. It's Bolton's Artistic Quarter! What's more, all those tattooists are 'award winning'!LeverEnd wrote:Don't forget Newport Street and The Gateway to Bolton! Spectacular views.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
I should of turned straight out of the ground, I turned left and ended up in the sh*t part of town.bobo the clown wrote:Molyneux to the station is about half a mile.
I wouldn't recommend anyone the journey from Burnden to Trinity Street as an example of the beauties of our town. Thank God we have Regent Street, eh ?
The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.
Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
T H all the above areas in Bolton are quite pleasant to where I was, most are well lit for starters. where I was was comparable to the in-between the two railway bridges at the Den. admittedly I was daft enough to presume that if I walked to wards the railway tracks I would soon find the station - I was infact going the wrong way.
this is where I ended up
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this is where I ended up
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The above post is complete bollox/garbage/nonsense, please point this out to me at any and every occasion possible.
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That URL looks like it's still a teenage URL. OMG!
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
I think it's what's called "an industrial estate". They're all over the place .... though maybe less in Berkshire.bwfcdan94 wrote:T H all the above areas in Bolton are quite pleasant to where I was, most are well lit for starters. where I was was comparable to the in-between the two railway bridges at the Den. admittedly I was daft enough to presume that if I walked to wards the railway tracks I would soon find the station - I was infact going the wrong way.
this is where I ended up
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.59799 ... e0!6m1!1e1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Kinty and I ended up somewhere v similar after that 7-1 game!
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
No, quite - each formation depends on mindset as well as position. But if we'd only played one striker, he'd have got pelters - either for dropping Hat-Trick Hero Mason or playing him up top alone - so I was slightly surprised he went with two wingers too. Suppose Wolves play a wide 4-4-2 so he went man for man.Worthy4England wrote:I think we've been here before. 451 doesn't have to be defensive, 442 isn't necessarily attacking, especially if you can't get the ball with someone who can distribute it. I couldn't see from when you posted the team, who was going to do that...Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Can't blame Garvan for taking the penalty. Can blame others for not stepping up. Can blame Garvan for taking a poor penalty.
Attacking 4-4-2, light on tacklers, always going to concede possession. Imagine if Mavies had been in for Garvan.
Surprised we played such an open line-up. Not surprised DF gets blamed for it, although I'd rather lose 1-0 with an attacking 4-4-2 than with a defensive 4-5-1. Slightly surprised at the lack of comment on here. Maybe folk have given up. Can't blame 'em.
I remember us losing 1-0 not unexpectedly at Wolves then going unbeaten for 23 games. It'd be nice if that happened again.
By the way, my Palace mole says Garvan can be a very good player - a "driving force" with "a good eye for a good range of passes", "as long as he's got someone to look after him". Maybe DF thought he and Spearing were that couple. (Lest ye think the Eagle is one-eyed, he described Ramage as "limited but solid", Paddy McCarthy as "good but always injured" and Moxey as "erm, well, he'll definitely try hard but he's a bit hopeless, especially positionally".)
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
Hard to get too angry about this one.
One of the favourites for promotion and haven't conceded a goal at home. Sounded like we edged it and on another day, could've walked away with at least a point..
File it under "one of those days"
Garvan though.. Jesus Christ
One of the favourites for promotion and haven't conceded a goal at home. Sounded like we edged it and on another day, could've walked away with at least a point..
File it under "one of those days"
Garvan though.. Jesus Christ
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
boltonboris wrote:Hard to get too angry about this one.
One of the favourites for promotion and haven't conceded a goal at home. Sounded like we edged it and on another day, could've walked away with at least a point..
File it under "one of those days"
Garvan though.. Jesus Christ
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
I think where my head was at, given Garvan's first performance, was that having either Mavies or Danns in the side in front of him, would probably have been a good thing.Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:No, quite - each formation depends on mindset as well as position. But if we'd only played one striker, he'd have got pelters - either for dropping Hat-Trick Hero Mason or playing him up top alone - so I was slightly surprised he went with two wingers too. Suppose Wolves play a wide 4-4-2 so he went man for man.Worthy4England wrote:I think we've been here before. 451 doesn't have to be defensive, 442 isn't necessarily attacking, especially if you can't get the ball with someone who can distribute it. I couldn't see from when you posted the team, who was going to do that...Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:Can't blame Garvan for taking the penalty. Can blame others for not stepping up. Can blame Garvan for taking a poor penalty.
Attacking 4-4-2, light on tacklers, always going to concede possession. Imagine if Mavies had been in for Garvan.
Surprised we played such an open line-up. Not surprised DF gets blamed for it, although I'd rather lose 1-0 with an attacking 4-4-2 than with a defensive 4-5-1. Slightly surprised at the lack of comment on here. Maybe folk have given up. Can't blame 'em.
I remember us losing 1-0 not unexpectedly at Wolves then going unbeaten for 23 games. It'd be nice if that happened again.
By the way, my Palace mole says Garvan can be a very good player - a "driving force" with "a good eye for a good range of passes", "as long as he's got someone to look after him". Maybe DF thought he and Spearing were that couple. (Lest ye think the Eagle is one-eyed, he described Ramage as "limited but solid", Paddy McCarthy as "good but always injured" and Moxey as "erm, well, he'll definitely try hard but he's a bit hopeless, especially positionally".)
I think our retention of possession started to improve when they came on (albeit one of them at the expense of Mason).
Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
The cop-out of a penalty was bad enough, but the follow-up miss even worse!
No need to get on Garvan's case over it, early days for him. But why is it left to the players to decide who takes it? They should know before the game to remove any uncertainty I'd have thought.
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Re: Howling at the Moon! - Wolves (A) 20/9/14
I don't think the penalty take thing is particularly bad (although it can be construed to be that Garvan had seniority over Mason who wanted to take it on the back of his hat-trick).
But it's just stunning that so many details are not ironed out.. Such as set pieces (for and against). We were led to believe that Dougloss was meticulous in his prep.. But it obviously doesn't seem to be the case.
But it's just stunning that so many details are not ironed out.. Such as set pieces (for and against). We were led to believe that Dougloss was meticulous in his prep.. But it obviously doesn't seem to be the case.
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