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Hmm, now I'm undecided again! You make a great case by pitting Pratley against Nolan.Prufrock wrote:Nah, he'd walk into our team. I agree 100% with Bobo, he needed to leave and the change was good for both clubs. Since then he's got a lot nearer to the player he was for us when pushing the England squad. Scored goals at Newcastle and West Ham both in the Championship and the Premier League. He's a weird one in that he has to play in that 'off-the-striker' role, and it's a role Mr Snicket seems to fancy Chungy in, but at this level I'm convinced he'd still get a shit-ton. Plus he's a fecking winner, and we don't have enough of those sort of characters.
I understand people's wariness, and I get Bish's point, but for all our improvement yesterday, we still started with Darren Pratley. Nolan or Pratley? Or Trotter? Or even Danns? Or Moritz last year?
Imagine he'd have to take a pretty hefty pay-cut, but I'd be a 'yes'!
I guess it just depends what kind of team Lennon wants to build, and the kind of players he wants. Because we've also got Mavies to come back and he's most effective behind the striker.
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In his last 5 seasons (3 Prem, 2 Champo) he's got 58 league goals in 173 games. That's as near as damn it 1 in 3. I like Mavies, though think he can play deeper as Jimmy Philips had him; I like Chungy, particularly in that role, but none of our players, strikers included are lilely to get near 1 in 3. Goals win games and all that.
Totally take Worthy's point re:wages though. Would have to be a ginormo wage-cut coz he fancies it. Given he doesn't seem to be feeling loved we can dream !
Totally take Worthy's point re:wages though. Would have to be a ginormo wage-cut coz he fancies it. Given he doesn't seem to be feeling loved we can dream !
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Prufrock wrote:In his last 5 seasons (3 Prem, 2 Champo) he's got 58 league goals in 173 games. That's as near as damn it 1 in 3. I like Mavies, though think he can play deeper as Jimmy Philips had him; I like Chungy, particularly in that role, but none of our players, strikers included are lilely to get near 1 in 3. Goals win games and all that.
Totally take Worthy's point re:wages though. Would have to be a ginormo wage-cut coz he fancies it. Given he doesn't seem to be feeling loved we can dream !
Fair points, well made.
But another risk factor would be how he got on with NL. Whilst Kev did fine under Hughton, for the vast majority of his career he's been Big Sam's love child.
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Why would we want a goalscoring combatant like Nolan back at our place when we have Trotter, Medo, Spearing and Pratley? Have some of you taken leave of your senses?
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Ah yes. An embarrassment of bitches, as I believe the French call it.Bruce Rioja wrote:Why would we want a goalscoring combatant like Nolan back at our place when we have Trotter, Medo, Spearing and Pratley? Have some of you taken leave of your senses?
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Given that reality - even Youri would say yes...Prufrock wrote:Nah, he'd walk into our team. I agree 100% with Bobo, he needed to leave and the change was good for both clubs. Since then he's got a lot nearer to the player he was for us when pushing the England squad. Scored goals at Newcastle and West Ham both in the Championship and the Premier League. He's a weird one in that he has to play in that 'off-the-striker' role, and it's a role Mr Snicket seems to fancy Chungy in, but at this level I'm convinced he'd still get a shit-ton. Plus he's a fecking winner, and we don't have enough of those sort of characters.
I understand people's wariness, and I get Bish's point, but for all our improvement yesterday, we still started with Darren Pratley. Nolan or Pratley? Or Trotter? Or even Danns? Or Moritz last year?
Imagine he'd have to take a pretty hefty pay-cut, but I'd be a 'yes'!
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I suspect those are not the ones he'd replace, though... it'd be chungy or Mavis.. It was chungy who was picked for the closest thing to Nolly's berth yesterday...
so - Nolan or chungy/Mavis is the real question...
so - Nolan or chungy/Mavis is the real question...
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Pratley, Danns and Moritz started most of their games there. And Trotter played there (woefully) a couple of times. Lee did well there yesterday, but has played his whole career on the wing. Mavies looked v, v good under Jimmy Phillips as the deeper playmaker in a '2-3'. You could quite comfortably play:
-----Mavies---Spearing-----
Lee-------Nolan---------Danns
----------Anyone------------
It's dreaming in terms of it happening, but I don't buy he'd be in for Mavies or Lee.
-----Mavies---Spearing-----
Lee-------Nolan---------Danns
----------Anyone------------
It's dreaming in terms of it happening, but I don't buy he'd be in for Mavies or Lee.
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Prufrock wrote:Pratley, Danns and Moritz started most of their games there. And Trotter played there (woefully) a couple of times. Lee did well there yesterday, but has played his whole career on the wing. Mavies looked v, v good under Jimmy Phillips as the deeper playmaker in a '2-3'. You could quite comfortably play:
-----Mavies---Spearing-----
Lee-------Nolan---------Danns
----------Anyone------------
It's dreaming in terms of it happening, but I don't buy he'd be in for Mavies or Lee.
well - presumably we're talking about this manager - Lennon - and he played Chungy there, not trotter or pratley or danns - and he had the choice...
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In 1 bloody game!
So he's not allowed to sign Nolan any more than he's allowed to play Trotter Danns or Pratley there? As long as Lee is fit the only other person he can play there is Mavies?
Plus, I've said I think it's a pipe dream anyway so no, we aren't talking about this manager! We're talking about what I (or anyone else) would do, and in my case that's beg and plead with Nobby to come back, and then play him in that ^ team.
So he's not allowed to sign Nolan any more than he's allowed to play Trotter Danns or Pratley there? As long as Lee is fit the only other person he can play there is Mavies?
Plus, I've said I think it's a pipe dream anyway so no, we aren't talking about this manager! We're talking about what I (or anyone else) would do, and in my case that's beg and plead with Nobby to come back, and then play him in that ^ team.
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Yep. A wonderful and, of course, infeasible pipe dream and there's nothing wrong with a pipe dream until people start picking holes in it.Prufrock wrote:In 1 bloody game!
So he's not allowed to sign Nolan any more than he's allowed to play Trotter Danns or Pratley there? As long as Lee is fit the only other person he can play there is Mavies?
Plus, I've said I think it's a pipe dream anyway so no, we aren't talking about this manager! We're talking about what I (or anyone else) would do, and in my case that's beg and plead with Nobby to come back, and then play him in that ^ team.
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Doesn't alter the point you dream-killerthebish wrote:an infeasible piped team???
c'mon Bobo - get that phone sorted!
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c'mon bobo - make up your dream-mind! Joshy or Nolly?bobo the clown wrote:Doesn't alter the point you dream-killerthebish wrote:an infeasible piped team???
c'mon Bobo - get that phone sorted!
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Of course we'd have him back in the team - we're complete shite now. If we were still about 15th in the Premier League we probably wouldn't be so keen. When we sold him and bought Mark Davies for £3m less and cheaper wages it was the logical move to make imo.
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Yeah I meant the difference between that and £4m for Nolan
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