Bijou Bob's Bargain Basement Buys - Jan transfer thread

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Re: Bijou Bob's Bargain Basement Buys - Jan transfer thread

Post by LeverEnd » Sat Jan 10, 2015 1:49 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:So effectively (it's a question) if Chungy's injury was serious and nobody comes forward right now, Bolton could end up paying for him to be treated and got ready to move on to a new club for free in five months?
Indeed. And sadly it won't be the first time either. :(
Won't SK have to compensate the club since it happened on in international duty?
Hope it's nothing serious.
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Post by Enoch » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:22 pm

LeverEnd wrote:Won't SK have to compensate the club
Wait 'til Emma gets the wrong end of that one!

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Post by LeverEnd » Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:38 pm

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Post by Whookam » Sat Jan 10, 2015 3:05 pm

Jugs wrote:
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Beefheart wrote:If we are talking about £1.5m for Chungy, it might be worth gambling on keeping him and letting him go for a free at the end of the season. He could be the difference between us getting into the playoffs or missing out. Unless of course Lennon thinks he could do something with that £1.5m.
We're not going to get into the play-offs, even on current form we'll be about ten points off. If we could get £1.5 million for him it would help us build a team for next season.
I'm not a dyed-in-the-wool optimist, but I have to say that all this talk of us not getting into the playoffs has gotta be a little misguided, right?

We can still get in the playoffs. We're a form team. Back in 2013 we only just missed out despite not picking up form until end of Feb. Teams above us will have rough patches.
It's not misguided, it's realistic. Our recent form has averaged aound 1.6 points per game, that's not enough to hit 70 points by the end of the season. In fact that points return would leave us with fewer points than in 12/13 simply because we've started from a lower points total. Thus in order to get to the play-offs (75 points) we have to do even better than we've been doing recently, we need just over 2ppg. Now the teams above and around us will go through rough patches but they will also go through good patches and, on average, their rough patches will be shorter and less damaging than those further down the league. Our rise up the league is quite deceptive because it implies we've been better than we have been. What we're actually doing is moving into a group of teams which are averaging around about the same points return. It's easy to move from second bottom in the league when you have a run of 10 games where you gain, say, 18 points because the teams around you aren't picking up any. As you move higher in the league you find those teams around you are also gaining 18 points over 10 games and your rate of climb stalls. This is also why saying "We're X points away from Y" is meaningless. To cover the ground that X points represents depends not just on the average ppg of two teams but the average ppg of all the teams in and around that area. It's a sad fact that we need to keep playing very well just to stay where we are. If I had to bet on it now I'd say we continue to play as we have been and miss out on the last play-off place by 5 to 10 points.

TL;DR? I'm a killjoy and our season is already over. We need to look towards next season.

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Post by a1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:50 pm

no we dont, theres 63 points to be had.

we'll do it if he swaps lee for a forward.

lee's going almost stubbsian in his efforts to do one.

hopefully he's out for months and it forces mr. lennon to sort it.

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Post by thebish » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:52 pm

a1 wrote:no we dont, theres 63 points to be had.

we'll do it if he swaps lee for a forward.

lee's going almost stubbsian in his efforts to do one.

hopefully he's out for months and it forces mr. lennon to sort it.

if he's out for months we won't sell him - so we'll have neither him nor the cash...

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Post by a1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:05 pm

we've crept under the fpp stuff for now- i'd worry about that on another day.

if he's not stoppin' , i hope palace buy him.
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Post by jaffka » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:07 pm

a1 wrote:we've crept under the fpp stuff for now- i'd worry about that on another day.
It's not your money, thank feck and I don't believe for one minute that you would be anywhere on a list who those at the club would consult.

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Post by thebish » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:07 pm

a1 wrote:we've crept under the fpp stuff for now- i'd worry about that on another day.

if he's not stoppin' , i hope palace buy him.
maybe - but it doesn't mean we suddenly have cash!

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Post by a1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:19 pm

jaffka wrote:It's not your money
how do you know ?

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Post by a1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:44 pm

thebish wrote:maybe - but it doesn't mean we suddenly have cash!
i'd do the opposite to what they did when cahill were here.

ie, get rid of him now. rather than use him till june. his 'press' hasnt been great, whereas cahill barely said owt.

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Post by midlands exile » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:47 pm

a1 wrote:no we dont, theres 63 points to be had.

we'll do it if he swaps lee for a forward.

lee's going almost stubbsian in his efforts to do one.

hopefully he's out for months and it forces mr. lennon to sort it.
A1 speaks sense! Well, the first two sentences anyway.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sat Jan 10, 2015 10:48 pm

a1 wrote:i'd do the opposite to what they did when cahill were here.

ie, get rid of him now. rather than use him till june
We sold Cahill, whose contract was up in June, in January. You may be thinking of Tal Ben Haim, who stayed until his contract expired.

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Post by jonnybwfc » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:03 am

At the time, I thought it was a terrible decision to sell Cahill. Still do, obviously.

We're fighting relegation, and sell our best defender (and possibly - our best player at the time).

That has always irked me to this day. Can't help but think if we hadn't sold Cahill in January, he would have kept the odd goal out, or scored at the other end to keep us up, in those final months.

From memory, we got £5mil. In hindsight, was a terrible decision. But even at the time, it was poor.

Completely unrelated, but the saviour (Andranik Teymourian) is playing for Iran against Bahrain right now, at the Asian Cup.
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:34 am

From memory, Cahill was exceedingly average at the time we sold him. We got 7m, which considering he was out of contract was a good bit of business. We arguably should have tried to sell him earlier for more, but the main issue for me is how the successive muppets spent the money...

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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:34 am

Think overall we got 7 mill. If true is a brilliant return for a defender we payed 5 mill for and was out of contract in 3 months
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Post by plymouth wanderer » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:35 am

We ended up with sordell the saviour
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Post by TKIZ! » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:37 am

I think we got £7-8m for Cahill, which I agree Jonny was still criminally. The Elk at least did us the favour of signing a new contract so that we could get a decent fee, I think Chelsea paid £15m which then Meggo spunked up the wall
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:37 am

plymouth wanderer wrote:We ended up with sordell the saviour
And T. Ream :doh:

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Post by Dr Hotdog » Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:37 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:From memory, Cahill was exceedingly average at the time we sold him. We got 7m, which considering he was out of contract was a good bit of business. We arguably should have tried to sell him earlier for more, but the main issue for me is how the successive muppets spent the money...
Dunno about him being average when we sold him - i'm pretty certain he earned his first full England cap in a competive game (did he score too, against Bulgaria?) while he was at Bolton. He also scored an excellent winner at Goodison Park in the league, shortly before the sale went through, to boost our chances of survival. Ngog also scored in that match, so too Tim Howard...

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