One year on...

[TonyDomingos]

On the back of an envelop - literally, so happy to be corrected - I reckon NL's "first season" has produced 54pts. W13, D15, L18. A ppg average of 1.17 (around 0.5 ppg short of play off form).

I couldn't be bothered to calculate the goals for and against, but I'm willing to bet that the difference between the two is a negative number.

I was pleasantly surprised this time last year, but now I'm under no illusion that Lennon is our saviour. Maybe he'll keep us up, but as Bish noted in the QPR thread, if he's got a game plan, then he's keeping it well hidden!

[Enoch]

You do him a disservice Domingos, that first loss was whilst Andy Hughes was at the helm. His points/game tally to date is exactly 1.2, which over the last three seasons would have finished, 16th, 16th & 21st.

Unfortunately, his last 30 games at the helm, since about the time his first transfer window 'slammed shut', we are running at 0.867 points/game. That figure extrapolated over a 46 game season would amass a shade under 40 points, over the last three seasons we would have finished, 22nd, 22nd, & 24th.

I understand that folk like Lennon's media persona, he comes across ok in front of the cameras. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone lets that overshadow his abysmal performance as our manager. With his record, I can't think of any previous Bolton manager that wouldn't be hanging from a gallows somewhere by now.

[bobo the clown]

^^ Because, unlike Megson & Freedman he's not a tit.
Unlike Lee, Megson & Coyle he hasn't had riches to spend. Even Freedman relatively.
Unlike those four he took over a sinking (sunk ?) ship ... sunk by them in fact.
The fans realise what a difficult job he has and can appreciate that he's working in difficult circumstances.


Plus, we can't simply sack managers on a twice yearly basis.

[jaffka]

How often do those two watch us at home?

[StaffsTrotter]

You do him a disservice Domingos, that first loss was whilst Andy Hughes was at the helm. His points/game tally to date is exactly 1.2, which over the last three seasons would have finished, 16th, 16th & 21st.

Unfortunately, his last 30 games at the helm, since about the time his first transfer window 'slammed shut', we are running at 0.867 points/game. That figure extrapolated over a 46 game season would amass a shade under 40 points, over the last three seasons we would have finished, 22nd, 22nd, & 24th.

I understand that folk like Lennon's media persona, he comes across ok in front of the cameras. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone lets that overshadow his abysmal performance as our manager. With his record, I can't think of any previous Bolton manager that wouldn't be hanging from a gallows somewhere by now.

so are you calling for him to be sacked then ?

[Hoboh]

You do him a disservice Domingos, that first loss was whilst Andy Hughes was at the helm. His points/game tally to date is exactly 1.2, which over the last three seasons would have finished, 16th, 16th & 21st.

Unfortunately, his last 30 games at the helm, since about the time his first transfer window 'slammed shut', we are running at 0.867 points/game. That figure extrapolated over a 46 game season would amass a shade under 40 points, over the last three seasons we would have finished, 22nd, 22nd, & 24th.

I understand that folk like Lennon's media persona, he comes across ok in front of the cameras. I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone lets that overshadow his abysmal performance as our manager. With his record, I can't think of any previous Bolton manager that wouldn't be hanging from a gallows somewhere by now.

so are you calling for him to be sacked then ?

Some people cannot get over being so wrong about Freedman I think you will find!

[thebish]

^^ Because, unlike Megson & Freedman he's not a tit.
Unlike Lee, Megson & Coyle he hasn't had riches to spend. Even Freedman relatively.
Unlike those four he took over a sinking (sunk ?) ship ... sunk by them in fact.
The fans realise what a difficult job he has and can appreciate that he's working in difficult circumstances.


Plus, we can't simply sack managers on a twice yearly basis.

indeed he isn't a tit! but I'd rather have a tit who wins games than a great media bloke who doesn't...

not that that's on offer at the moment... so I guess you could argue that it's better to have an unsuccesful decent bloke than an unsuccesful tit - but - small margins!!

I don't think anyone has called for his sacking, have they??? certainly not on this forum. did I miss summat?

also - I think the ship started sinking when BigSam left - it's been sinking for a long time!!

still - as I have said several times, Lenny is the best we could have hoped for at the time - and I'm fairly sure he's the best we can hope for just now - let's hope summat clicks and the results start to come...

[Jugs]

I was one of the dissidents when Lennon's name was first touted, but I grew to the idea because people (on here) and the media convinced me. I'm prepared to give him time. A year isn't all that much. All fans will have their own opinions, of course, and there are probably things he's doing wrong that is causing some frustration with others. Coyle began to rile me pretty quickly, but Lennon is getting some more time from me. We aren't getting results, but I can't say there is too much he is doing that's pissing me off. Probably the weirdest thing he's done is sign Twardzick, but I'd be more pissed off if he insisted on playing him week in week out because he was one of his signings.

[Armchair Wanderer]

Probably the weirdest thing he's done is sign Twardzick, but I'd be more pissed off if he insisted on playing him week in week out because he was one of his signings.

Twardzick at least seems versatile, certainly for the reserves. Maybe he was trying to find a budget Mulgrew.

This season we were possibly unlucky/didn't help ourselves to begin with, then picked up a bit, then the swede left so I'm assuming there was a level of disruption when the new guy came in.

After this international break Burnley we should hopefully start to pick up again.

[thebish]

Probably the weirdest thing he's done is sign Twardzick, but I'd be more pissed off if he insisted on playing him week in week out because he was one of his signings.

Twardzick at least seems versatile, certainly for the reserves. Maybe he was trying to find a budget Mulgrew.

This season we were possibly unlucky/didn't help ourselves to begin with, then picked up a bit, then the swede left so I'm assuming there was a level of disruption when the new guy came in.

After this international break Burnley Christmas The January Window a full pre-season we should hopefully start to pick up again.

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[BWFC_Insane]

^^ Because, unlike Megson & Freedman he's not a tit.
Unlike Lee, Megson & Coyle he hasn't had riches to spend. Even Freedman relatively.
Unlike those four he took over a sinking (sunk ?) ship ... sunk by them in fact.
The fans realise what a difficult job he has and can appreciate that he's working in difficult circumstances.


Plus, we can't simply sack managers on a twice yearly basis.

We've been a sunk ship since Coyle relegated us.

That's the truth. We had half a chance at a rescue but didn't change captain early enough. From then on the spiral has been incredibly difficult to turn round.

The whole 'he's not a tit' thing is absolute bollocks though.

The only thing that matters is results. And results simply aren't good enough. We can't sack Lennon so he simply has to improve results. If he can't I suspect he will simply leave as can't see him hanging around for the fall out.

[Jugs]

Probably the weirdest thing he's done is sign Twardzick, but I'd be more pissed off if he insisted on playing him week in week out because he was one of his signings.

Twardzick at least seems versatile, certainly for the reserves. Maybe he was trying to find a budget Mulgrew.

This season we were possibly unlucky/didn't help ourselves to begin with, then picked up a bit, then the swede left so I'm assuming there was a level of disruption when the new guy came in.

After this international break Burnley we should hopefully start to pick up again.

He seems quite lightweight to me. Maybe if he bulked up, we could be talking about first team action but at the same time he's looked pretty clueless in the snippets I've seen.

[jetsetwilly]

Given that we have a very realistic chance of being relegated this year, at what point will the fans turn on him. Before we go down. If we go down. If we struggle in league 1?

[LeverEnd]

Given that we have a very realistic chance of being relegated this year, at what point will the fans turn on him. Before we go down. If we go down. If we struggle in league 1?

I don't see many turning on him this season. Coyle got a fairly easy ride up to relegation, until we struggled in the Chanpionship.

[TonyDomingos]

You do him a disservice Domingos, that first loss was whilst Andy Hughes was at the helm.

I didn't include that game, but I did count today's.

[Enoch]

Careful with that crystal ball!