24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
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I wonder what Gary Megson is up to?
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He won't stay round for long, that's my personal view...I'm not against Lennon and have felt supportive of him from the start, but the last two team selections feels like lennon hasn't picked them, or maybe he went out of the room and somebody else picked the team!!! It just didn't look right tonight and I think he's lost the plot....maybe this club likes killing managers off
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Dog shit!
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He's really, really struggling here. I like the guy, I see no point sacking him to bring in proven shite...and I'm really, really against gartside having anything to do with the next managerial appointment.
However that selection tonight is absolutely fcuking ridiculous. The treatment of Vela is astounding. His signings look on the whole, gash. I dunno what to say really. I think we've clung in for too long and we'll go this season. We're on a four division tour.
However that selection tonight is absolutely fcuking ridiculous. The treatment of Vela is astounding. His signings look on the whole, gash. I dunno what to say really. I think we've clung in for too long and we'll go this season. We're on a four division tour.
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I'm starting to think Lennon is losing the plot some what!
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We do seem to be a career graveyard.twilight wrote:He won't stay round for long, that's my personal view...I'm not against Lennon and have felt supportive of him from the start, but the last two team selections feels like lennon hasn't picked them, or maybe he went out of the room and somebody else picked the team!!! It just didn't look right tonight and I think he's lost the plot....maybe this club likes killing managers off
Just looks like desperate guesswork from Lennon now, very sad as I had high hopes.
Delighted to have got a ticket for the Leeds game, especially as I now live in Leeds and share a house with a couple of Leeds fans. I'm sure they'll be gentle since I've not known them long.
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Dire, dire, dire. No other word for it. Team selection was ridiculous, let's just hand Birmingham the midfield. The substitutions managed somehow to make it even worse.
I think that is the most tepid, uninspiring home performance I've seen for a long, long time.
Absolutely no shape, or plan or tempo. We play negative, slow, boring football. No wonder we don't score any goals. It is absolutely turgid.
Lennon thinking that midfield was a good idea is about as mindnumbinglt stupid as you can get.
Seriously worried now. I think we are better than the bottom 5 or 6, but this team isn't motivated, isn't organised and tactically our manager is probably the worst in the division.
Lennon desperately needs to buck his ideas up, Mjallby was clearly a huge loss as we look disorganised and disinterested.
I think that is the most tepid, uninspiring home performance I've seen for a long, long time.
Absolutely no shape, or plan or tempo. We play negative, slow, boring football. No wonder we don't score any goals. It is absolutely turgid.
Lennon thinking that midfield was a good idea is about as mindnumbinglt stupid as you can get.
Seriously worried now. I think we are better than the bottom 5 or 6, but this team isn't motivated, isn't organised and tactically our manager is probably the worst in the division.
Lennon desperately needs to buck his ideas up, Mjallby was clearly a huge loss as we look disorganised and disinterested.
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Lennon's ridiculous 'Dougie's bingo ball' team selections & awful dull, slow tempo tactics are showing him up to be completely 'out of his depth' - he has zero tactical nous, he's no idea how to improve us.
These players are clearly not playing for him & he's not getting them motivated - we have too many players who clearly do not give a shit about the club and haven't for a while now, but Lennon can't see this and continually plays the same shite week after week.
The fans can see it but Lennon can't....he needs to do something and quickly or the fans will be calling for him to go in the next few weeks, a lot appear to be angry tonight - I don't think anyone can see how this shower of shite can win another game. Lennon's talks a good game, but clearly can't back it up....but the team is completely disjointed and disorganised without any desire, passion or team spirit
These players are clearly not playing for him & he's not getting them motivated - we have too many players who clearly do not give a shit about the club and haven't for a while now, but Lennon can't see this and continually plays the same shite week after week.
The fans can see it but Lennon can't....he needs to do something and quickly or the fans will be calling for him to go in the next few weeks, a lot appear to be angry tonight - I don't think anyone can see how this shower of shite can win another game. Lennon's talks a good game, but clearly can't back it up....but the team is completely disjointed and disorganised without any desire, passion or team spirit
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We're increasingly looking like any silver linings have disappeared. I was worried this would happen eariler in the season, particularly when I saw us lose to a poor MK Dons while playing near our max. Keep getting nothing while giving your best and confidence is sapped.BWFC_Insane wrote:Dire, dire, dire. No other word for it. Team selection was ridiculous, let's just hand Birmingham the midfield. The substitutions managed somehow to make it even worse.
I think that is the most tepid, uninspiring home performance I've seen for a long, long time.
Absolutely no shape, or plan or tempo. We play negative, slow, boring football. No wonder we don't score any goals. It is absolutely turgid.
Lennon thinking that midfield was a good idea is about as mindnumbinglt stupid as you can get.
Seriously worried now. I think we are better than the bottom 5 or 6, but this team isn't motivated, isn't organised and tactically our manager is probably the worst in the division.
Lennon desperately needs to buck his ideas up, Mjallby was clearly a huge loss as we look disorganised and disinterested.
As for the silver linings we were optimistically clinging to:
Defence has been sorted - gone
Madine just needs one goal and he'll be fine -gone
New striker will come in and save us - very unlikely
Lennon will learn the division -increasingly unlikely
EDIT Our home form will be good enough to keep us up - blown away tonight
It's just fingers crossed time now and I fear that's all Lennon has got too. We're most likely on our way down.
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Re: 24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
Two of the worst performances I've witnessed in many a year, one by a largely uninterested Bolton team and one by the so called referee.
A long cold winter is on the agenda.
A long cold winter is on the agenda.
I feel reborn !!!! No more confussion
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I'm delighted we're relying on "fingers crossed". A well proven method of escaping a relegation zone.
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Re: 24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
Heskey
Surely a last throw of the dice
FWIW I'd start Woolery, Thomas or the even younger one!
Surely a last throw of the dice
FWIW I'd start Woolery, Thomas or the even younger one!
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I don't think it's an official policy Worthy! Just my pessimistic view after all my reason for optimism have gone down the pan one after the other.Worthy4England wrote:I'm delighted we're relying on "fingers crossed". A well proven method of escaping a relegation zone.
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Mjallby was clearly a huge loss as we look disorganised and disinterested.[/quote]
Errrm....I was scoffed at when I said that a few weeks ago
Errrm....I was scoffed at when I said that a few weeks ago
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Re: 24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
Aye, feels a lot like that at the moment. I think we have had some poor luck and created chances that probably should have been converted etc., but bemoaning that is almost like relying on "fingers crossed".LeverEnd wrote:I don't think it's an official policy Worthy! Just my pessimistic view after all my reason for optimism have gone down the pan one after the other.Worthy4England wrote:I'm delighted we're relying on "fingers crossed". A well proven method of escaping a relegation zone.
It looks n feels disorganised. I'm wondering why Dobbie is here...he has scored but looks to be as a bench warmer, which is sorta pointless.
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Well that were awful.
2 immobile lumps up front and a clueless 9 behind them.
We made Birmingham look very good. They just did the simple things very well - passed and moved into space whilst we too frequently relied on the upfield punt.
The defence is about as good as it can be (& to be fair Casado looked decent) but midfield and attack need a rapid overhaul. No point imo having our only creative player sat in front of the back four. He should be running at the opposition defence and creating space for the forwards. Neither of whom should be Madine or Heskey
2 immobile lumps up front and a clueless 9 behind them.
We made Birmingham look very good. They just did the simple things very well - passed and moved into space whilst we too frequently relied on the upfield punt.
The defence is about as good as it can be (& to be fair Casado looked decent) but midfield and attack need a rapid overhaul. No point imo having our only creative player sat in front of the back four. He should be running at the opposition defence and creating space for the forwards. Neither of whom should be Madine or Heskey
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I was a bit surprised at both starting tonight instead of one with Clayton. or even Dobbie. I suppose starting both Dobbie and Clayton would be an admission that Madine and Heskey just aren't working? It's a question, not a statement.Harry Genshaw wrote:
The defence is about as good as it can be (& to be fair Casado looked decent) but midfield and attack need a rapid overhaul. No point imo having our only creative player sat in front of the back four. He should be running at the opposition defence and creating space for the forwards. Neither of whom should be Madine or Heskey
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For the Leeds game, from the 11 that started tonight, I'd keep Big Chin and Little Aggro Left Back, Davies, Feeney and Amos. The rest, I'd tell to take the weekend off and look at themselves. Ask themselves why they play football. It certainly ain't for the love of it.
These guys are taking the piss out of the paying public. Dorian Dervitte? I wouldn't piss in his face if his teeth were on fire. Derik? Softer that sponge. Pratley? Will he stop hiding? Simply not a midfielder to play in the middle 2 of a 4-4-2. Heskey? Give in, man, you've nothing left to fight for and I don't really believe you're fighting for it anyway. Stop giving him the opportunity to fight for it. It's gone. Gary Madine? GARY MADINE!? Absolutely inept. Makes Tony Philiskirk look like Gerd Muller. Makes Gregor Rasiak look like Romario. Makes Bo Hansen look like Marco Van Basten. Makes Bob Taylor look like Gary Lineker. Makes Craig Davies look like an efficient footballer. There is no flood to come from Madine. It's not for him, this 'goalscoring' lark. I'm actually ashamed he's on the end of our chances. We don't create many, and he needs about 6 to hit the target (or actually get his effort away before dispossession...).
Paul 'Robbo' Robinson was playing centre half tonight for the opposition and we barely got a sniff. ALARM! ALARM! ALARM!
That was absolutely sickening to sit through and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. Perhaps Eidur could see it coming.
These guys are taking the piss out of the paying public. Dorian Dervitte? I wouldn't piss in his face if his teeth were on fire. Derik? Softer that sponge. Pratley? Will he stop hiding? Simply not a midfielder to play in the middle 2 of a 4-4-2. Heskey? Give in, man, you've nothing left to fight for and I don't really believe you're fighting for it anyway. Stop giving him the opportunity to fight for it. It's gone. Gary Madine? GARY MADINE!? Absolutely inept. Makes Tony Philiskirk look like Gerd Muller. Makes Gregor Rasiak look like Romario. Makes Bo Hansen look like Marco Van Basten. Makes Bob Taylor look like Gary Lineker. Makes Craig Davies look like an efficient footballer. There is no flood to come from Madine. It's not for him, this 'goalscoring' lark. I'm actually ashamed he's on the end of our chances. We don't create many, and he needs about 6 to hit the target (or actually get his effort away before dispossession...).
Paul 'Robbo' Robinson was playing centre half tonight for the opposition and we barely got a sniff. ALARM! ALARM! ALARM!
That was absolutely sickening to sit through and I wouldn't wish it upon anyone. Perhaps Eidur could see it coming.
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Re: 24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
Truly dreadful, dreadful, dreadful.
Bruce Rioch's 3rd Div side would murder this lot. Annihilate them.
Our worst squad since the 1980s.
The way I feel tonight maybe the worst I've ever seen.
Moorhouses at the Ainsworth on the way home helped a little...
Get ready for the lower tier, companeros. We are going down.
IMHO - BWFCi is right amount many things in the way he reads the situation, and tonight's travesty of football. But I differ on his view that we are better than the bottom 5 or 6 in this league.
No we are not...
Bruce Rioch's 3rd Div side would murder this lot. Annihilate them.
Our worst squad since the 1980s.
The way I feel tonight maybe the worst I've ever seen.
Moorhouses at the Ainsworth on the way home helped a little...
Get ready for the lower tier, companeros. We are going down.
IMHO - BWFCi is right amount many things in the way he reads the situation, and tonight's travesty of football. But I differ on his view that we are better than the bottom 5 or 6 in this league.
No we are not...
Re: 24th v 4th - Birmingham (h) 20/10/15
Dobbie has looked poor, but has had a decent career and can finish so give him 3 consecutive starts and let's see. It's desperate but we are.Worthy4England wrote:Aye, feels a lot like that at the moment. I think we have had some poor luck and created chances that probably should have been converted etc., but bemoaning that is almost like relying on "fingers crossed".LeverEnd wrote:I don't think it's an official policy Worthy! Just my pessimistic view after all my reason for optimism have gone down the pan one after the other.Worthy4England wrote:I'm delighted we're relying on "fingers crossed". A well proven method of escaping a relegation zone.
It looks n feels disorganised. I'm wondering why Dobbie is here...he has scored but looks to be as a bench warmer, which is sorta pointless.
I'm wondering about Lennon's man msnagement too. Wilson looks to have taken spearings role as scapegoat of the week. Yes he was piss poor at Huddersfield but wasn't alone in that. He's had some good games too. And is a specialist right back.
As for Spearing, Lennon claims his injury derailed us on Saturday because he was playing so well, but the guy isn't good enough to start most games. Why?
I'd love to see Lennon turn it round but have lost all hope that he can.
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