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Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Laraque27 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:37 pm

Hi guys.

I have a question for a Bolton fan with a good memory. In the game Bolton vs Rotherham in the 3rd division in the 72/73 season, there was something strange and/or controversial about the goal scored by Bolton in the 86th minute in a 2-1 win. Can anyone help me out? I'm stumped.

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:50 pm

Before my time fella but the older ones should confirm it was a goal kick issue. Ref had indicated play on, keeper thought it was a goal kick and put ball down. As he began his run up, the striker (Gary Jones?) ran over and kicked it in the net. The goal stood. Keeper was Jim McDonagh I think
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Laraque27 » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:53 pm

Massive thanks. Rotherham went down on goal difference that year, so they must have been slightly miffed.

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Riviman » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:54 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:Before my time fella but the older ones should confirm it was a goal kick issue. Ref had indicated play on, keeper thought it was a goal kick and put ball down. As he began his run up, the striker (Gary Jones?) ran over and kicked it in the net. The goal stood. Keeper was Jim McDonagh I think
Just about spot on, McDonagh was stood holding the goalpost ready to run up and take the goalkick, all the crowd at I think at the Lever End, including me, shouted to Garry Jones that the ball wan't out, Jones ran up and sidefooted the ball into the net!! John Byrom got the other goal.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 25, 2015 2:59 pm

So not really controversial then, other than in the mind of Jimmy possibly?

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:03 pm

An amazing "did that really happen ?" moment. As said above, the Lever End picked up on the fact that the ref (I assume via a signal from the linesman) was quite animatedly waving play-on. Jim Mac was apoplectic after. Still, he became our very own a few seasons later.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by clapton is god » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:06 pm

All above quite correct. I was there on the Lever End and said to my mate "that never went out."

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:11 pm

So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:26 pm

Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
That's a banned topic. Still too painful to contemplate, as is anything to do with Everton, Alan Stubbs, Duncan Fergusson etc. :evil:
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by William the White » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:39 pm

Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
The events at Chelsea - Per's miss!!! Had something to do with it.

And - despite the fact i detest Everton, i do have two v gd mates who support them.

I have to say they have no memory of the incident at all...

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:48 pm

Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
... and us having a late winner at home v Leeds in the April scratched out as offside despite it been pulled back from the by-line.

The referee later said "sorry, I got that wrong !". Really, sorry. That's OK then.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:27 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
... and us having a late winner at home v Leeds in the April scratched out as offside despite it been pulled back from the by-line.

The referee later said "sorry, I got that wrong !". Really, sorry. That's OK then.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Jugs » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:35 pm

Late winner? It was an equaliser, weren't it? Would have been 3-3 but instead we lost 2-3.

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:37 pm

Jugs wrote:Late winner? It was an equaliser, weren't it? Would have been 3-3 but instead we lost 2-3.
Fair enough. Same impact. Any additional point would have kept us up overall.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Jugs » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:31 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
Jugs wrote:Late winner? It was an equaliser, weren't it? Would have been 3-3 but instead we lost 2-3.
Fair enough. Same impact. Any additional point would have kept us up overall.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by LeverEnd » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:07 am

William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
The events at Chelsea - Per's miss!!! Had something to do with it.

And - despite the fact i detest Everton, i do have two v gd mates who support them.

I have to say they have no memory of the incident at all...
I went to Chelsea that day completely and utterly convinced we'd get a result. Everton failed to win, Chelsea didn't even care if they won, in fact their fans were urging us to score and send Everton down. And we bottled it, while Todd sat with his chin in his hands. That's when I fell out with him, good manager when things are going for you, hopeless when not.
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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:23 am

LeverEnd wrote:I went to Chelsea that day completely and utterly convinced we'd get a result. Everton failed to win, Chelsea didn't even care if they won, in fact their fans were urging us to score and send Everton down. And we bottled it, while Todd sat with his chin in his hands. That's when I fell out with him, good manager when things are going for you, hopeless when not.
Yeah, I was there that day too but I don't recall Todd being particularly passive. He was never the rant-and-rave type, but he certainly didn't do nothing that day. In fact, the record shows he made three substitutions during the second half, bringing on a striker and two wingers between the 65th and 73rd minute, including sacrificing a defender.

That said, of course, it could be said that Todd's Bolton failed in the big games - notably that one and the "tracksuits" Play-Off Final the following year.

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:27 am

LeverEnd wrote:
William the White wrote:
Worthy4England wrote:So nowt like our good goal against Everton in 1997/8 which should have sent them down and kept us up then?
The events at Chelsea - Per's miss!!! Had something to do with it.

And - despite the fact i detest Everton, i do have two v gd mates who support them.

I have to say they have no memory of the incident at all...
I went to Chelsea that day completely and utterly convinced we'd get a result. Everton failed to win, Chelsea didn't even care if they won, in fact their fans were urging us to score and send Everton down. And we bottled it, while Todd sat with his chin in his hands. That's when I fell out with him, good manager when things are going for you, hopeless when not.
Well, players need to take more responsibility....you couldn't have timed this better!

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Jugs » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:33 am

I liked Todd's time in charge. We played good football. There were a few disappointments (playoff final), but there were lots of ups too, and he brought in some great players.

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Re: Bolton vs Rotherham 72/73

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:41 am

Jugs wrote:I liked Todd's time in charge. We played good football. There were a few disappointments (playoff final), but there were lots of ups too, and he brought in some great players.
Oh for sure, I'm a Todd fan in general. Much as I loved the Rioch era, that 96/97 season was my personal annus mirabilis. Not just the wins, but the manner of them, and lots went right for me personally away from the football. Happy, happy days.

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