Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:24 pm

Lennon says Madine sropped for disciplinary reasons and incident was on Sat in dressing room after match.
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Post by LeverEnd » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 pm

NL: "I won't go into details but there are some things you can't tolerate. You have to put a marker down and that's what I've done. It's up to Gary now; the ball is in his court. It was a hard decision to make as we are down to the bare bones and you feel like you're cutting your nose off to spite your face. But I won't tolerate that sort of behaviour from anyone in the dressing room and it opens up a can of worms with the other players if I do. There has got to be a certain level of discipline." Suggests he could be in contention this weekend but "that's down to Gary."
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by LeverEnd » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:29 pm

Sounds pretty bad to me and the other players have seen what went on.
If he's overstepped the mark then it's his fault we were without his services tonight and not Lennon's. I'd sack Lennon tomorrow if it were up to me me, but my instinct is to back him over that shithouse.
It's not the first time he's been missing when needed whether he's in the team or not.
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Burnden Paddock » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:29 pm

LeverEnd wrote:Lennon says Madine sropped for disciplinary reasons and incident was on Sat in dressing room after match.
I did say at the time that Pratley should slap Amos. Maybe Madine stepped into the breach? Just as long as someone did.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:33 pm

Its just given lennon another excuse for being shit and employing shit tactics in another away game. Distraction. Gary Madine could of played as a 12th man and we'd not got any nearer scoring tonight.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by DJBlu » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:34 pm

LeverEnd wrote:
NL: "I won't go into details but there are some things you can't tolerate. You have to put a marker down and that's what I've done. It's up to Gary now; the ball is in his court. It was a hard decision to make as we are down to the bare bones and you feel like you're cutting your nose off to spite your face. But I won't tolerate that sort of behaviour from anyone in the dressing room and it opens up a can of worms with the other players if I do. There has got to be a certain level of discipline." Suggests he could be in contention this weekend but "that's down to Gary."
And the new manager?

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by jonnycooper » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:40 pm

Known for being a bit of a hooli,Nadine isn't she? :wink:

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:44 pm

Agree a manager has to have some discipline rules and players can't just go firing off and ignoring them. Madine's shown his temper publicly before. Have some sympathy with Neil Lennon there. That said, I have no sympathy for him after not addressing the game tonight. It doesn't need a Jose Maurinho to see we had nothing at the sharp end. All I did was hear it from the commentary, but they were really pxssed off with Lennon when it was obvious we needed to attack. Seven minutes left is no time to be thinking changes will work. Stupid.
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:44 pm

officer_dibble wrote:Its just given lennon another excuse for being shit and employing shit tactics in another away game. Distraction. Gary Madine could of played as a 12th man and we'd not got any nearer scoring tonight.
You could clone the fxcker and play several of them extra and all he'd do would be interfere with himself, the wanker.
But Lennon is a wazzock, a top top wazzock. A class A wazzock. A wazzock of the first order with oak leaves. The number one wazzock in BWFC's recent history ( and to remember that includes Coylie boy and Freedman that says something)...
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by midlands exile » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:50 pm

First match I've been to on ages, might as well stayed at home and stuck pins in my eyes. Birmingham could have literally played with no goalkeeper and we still wouldn't have scored.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Jugs » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:58 pm

Not interested in Madine, I want to know why he didn't make subs earlier.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Prufrock » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:35 pm

We're downer than a very down thing.
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That it's going to lose its mind
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:37 pm

Prufrock wrote:We're downer than a very down thing.
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by TANGODANCER » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:45 pm

We looked to be playing with all the calm, composure and lack of urgency of a side three up instead of one down.
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by midlands exile » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:46 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:We looked to be playing with all the calm, composure and lack of urgency of a side three up instead of one down.
It was like we were set-up and instructed to grind out a 0-1 loss.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:05 am

In most of the games we play opposition defenders are on our forward men as soon as they get near their box. Our lot always seem to back off and adopt a "beat me if you can" attitude, which isn't that hard to do considering the amount of soft goals we give away. We should be snapping at heels, not seeing clean ones.
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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:17 am

LeverEnd wrote:And who says Mark davies doesn't cxontribute enough?
He's no more a left winger than Clough is a lone forward. We've now reached the classic death throes of a manager who doesn't know where best to play the players he's got, playing a system that doesn't suit the available players, ignoring ones he's recruited, and saying it'd all be ok if he was allowed to recruit more.

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Re: Get out of Jail Free..Birmingham away 23-02-2016

Post by LeverEnd » Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:36 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
LeverEnd wrote:And who says Mark davies doesn't cxontribute enough?
He's no more a left winger than Clough is a lone forward. We've now reached the classic death throes of a manager who doesn't know where best to play the players he's got, playing a system that doesn't suit the available players, ignoring ones he's recruited, and saying it'd all be ok if he was allowed to recruit more.
Yes I do think he's at that 'feck it I'll be out of here soon anyway' stage.
Was just a joke about Mavies having our only on target shot.
I'm firmly in the camp that says he contributes far too little though, and not always out of position.

This game for me showed what a difference a really good manager can make in this division when you're struggling financially. Well, not the game, but the gulf in points and positions after it.
Started at similar times, Lennon's had more constraints recently it's true, but Rowett's taken a struggling, weak squad and done wonders with it on a very tight budget.
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