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Re: New kit?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:56 pm

Riviman wrote:And here it is:

http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/2016 ... 97801.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Who's the lad sat to Clough's right? I recognise the lad to his left as being Joey Boswell off of Bread. :)
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Re: New kit?

Post by malcd1 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:13 pm

That is Kaiyne Woolery. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that is not Joey Boswell.
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Re: New kit?

Post by bobo the clown » Fri Jul 22, 2016 6:06 am

malcd1 wrote:That is Kaiyne Woolery. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that is not Joey Boswell.
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Re: New kit?

Post by Beefheart » Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:41 am

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boltonboris wrote:I don't think gambling sites really offend that many right-minded people. It's part of footballing culture.

Not like QuickQuid or whatever.

Don't forget, we had 188Bet for a few years
Agreed. I personally don't see why anyone would care?
It's an interesting place to draw the line I think. Why would pay day loans as a sponsor be too far when online betting companies exploit the vulnerable for profit just as much as they do?

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Re: New kit?

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jul 22, 2016 1:47 pm

Beefheart wrote:
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boltonboris wrote:I don't think gambling sites really offend that many right-minded people. It's part of footballing culture.

Not like QuickQuid or whatever.

Don't forget, we had 188Bet for a few years
Agreed. I personally don't see why anyone would care?
It's an interesting place to draw the line I think. Why would pay day loans as a sponsor be too far when online betting companies exploit the vulnerable for profit just as much as they do?
I just think it's different. Every industry can take your money.

Loan sharking should be illegal. Betting should't
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Re: New kit?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:06 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Beefheart wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
boltonboris wrote:I don't think gambling sites really offend that many right-minded people. It's part of footballing culture.

Not like QuickQuid or whatever.

Don't forget, we had 188Bet for a few years
Agreed. I personally don't see why anyone would care?
It's an interesting place to draw the line I think. Why would pay day loans as a sponsor be too far when online betting companies exploit the vulnerable for profit just as much as they do?
I just think it's different. Every industry can take your money.

Loan sharking should be illegal. Betting should't
You can make a case that gambling is addictive, but it never stopped teams taking money off alcohol companies.

Like I say, Boro are sponsored by a pawnbrokers – shurely that's also profiting from fiscal misery?

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Re: New kit?

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:08 pm

If you've not got a penny in the bank, you're not betting

If you've not got a penny in the bank, you can get a payday loan company to put some in there for you at exorbitant rates of interest

They're different
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Re: New kit?

Post by Beefheart » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:13 pm

I'm not saying they shouldn't be sponsors, I just think it's an odd distinction morally speaking. Betting companies are invariably an evil bunch of c*nts.

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Re: New kit?

Post by boltonboris » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:42 pm

Beefheart wrote:I'm not saying they shouldn't be sponsors, I just think it's an odd distinction morally speaking. Betting companies are invariably an evil bunch of c*nts.
Are they?
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Re: New kit?

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jul 22, 2016 2:46 pm

I'd say financial companies are pretty much the same, and there's been loads of them sponsoring clubs

For the record I'm not particularly against being sponsored by a betting company, but it's a shame we're sponsored by one with a clipart logo

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Re: New kit?

Post by Beefheart » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:08 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Beefheart wrote:I'm not saying they shouldn't be sponsors, I just think it's an odd distinction morally speaking. Betting companies are invariably an evil bunch of c*nts.
Are they?
Yes.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... ting-shops" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... g-industry" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: New kit?

Post by Norpig » Fri Jul 22, 2016 3:14 pm

Betting companies are offering a service you either partake or not. Addiction to gambling has taken over from addiction to smoking and alcohol, as these companies are now banned from advertising. Personally I am not fussed what is on the shirt as long as they have paid the going price for it. I do not like the logo on the new shirt therefore, I will not be buying one theat is my prerogative.

I will be annoyed if I get mithered every game asking do I want to spin and win but that is another story!

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Re: New kit?

Post by Vertigo » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:14 pm

This is certainly a step lower than betting. It's virtual slot machines. Meaning you can lose all your money pulling a machine lever without actually having to leave your house.

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Re: New kit?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:28 pm

I really don't know why people are taking to the moral high ground on this one. It's a perfectly legitimate business. If people are fecking stupid enough to fritter their money away then that's their lookout. I really don't see this bunch advertising on the shirts of a third division football side leading to the children of the otherwise sensible being turfed out onto the street. Furthermore, those that get involved would only find another vehicle to spunk their dough away on anyway even if Spin & Win didn't exist.

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Re: New kit?

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:30 pm

malcd1 wrote:That is Kaiyne Woolery. I'm sorry to disappoint you but that is not Joey Boswell.
Indeed. It's a young Richard Griffiths. Sill me. :)
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Re: New kit?

Post by Hoboh » Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:05 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:I really don't know why people are taking to the moral high ground on this one. It's a perfectly legitimate business. If people are fecking stupid enough to fritter their money away then that's their lookout. I really don't see this bunch advertising on the shirts of a third division football side leading to the children of the otherwise sensible being turfed out onto the street. Furthermore, those that get involved would only find another vehicle to spunk their dough away on anyway even if Spin & Win didn't exist.

When I was younger I didn't start smoking in a bid to be more like the Marlboro Man.
That's about the crux of it all, where I do disagree though is in the eyes of youth, it could appear to make It acceptable and we all know the young have to be shielded from anything potentially bad in case it upsets their sensitivities.
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Re: New kit?

Post by BWFC_Insane » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:04 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:I really don't know why people are taking to the moral high ground on this one. It's a perfectly legitimate business. If people are fecking stupid enough to fritter their money away then that's their lookout. I really don't see this bunch advertising on the shirts of a third division football side leading to the children of the otherwise sensible being turfed out onto the street. Furthermore, those that get involved would only find another vehicle to spunk their dough away on anyway even if Spin & Win didn't exist.

When I was younger I didn't start smoking in a bid to be more like the Marlboro Man.
This. If we were sponsored by Walkers, say someone would argue that it is encouraging obesity in kids.

Betting firms as you say are legal businesses and whilst it would be nice to not have a corporate sponsor at all, I'm not sure it matters all that much who the sponsor is.

Agree with DSB that the logo does look a bit shit. But then this is football not a fashion parade.

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Re: New kit?

Post by LeverEnd » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:44 pm

Yep, really don't get the fuss.
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Re: New kit?

Post by bobo the clown » Sun Jul 24, 2016 7:20 pm

The fuss is that modern curse .. the ability for everyone with a phone & or access to the internet can create a whinge about absolutely anything. The easy loan thing gave people a success (not too bad a thing I felt at the time, tbh) ... those people feel they're on roll.
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Re: New kit?

Post by thebish » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:08 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
When I was younger I didn't start smoking in a bid to be more like the Marlboro Man.

aye, but sometimes you just have to recognise a lost cause when you see it! :wink:

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