Southend (H) match thread 3/9/16 (3pm)

[BWFC_Insane]

Clearly some very unrealistic expectations. Anyone describing a half where the opposition score with their only chance and we have 3 excellent chances which somehow we miss and they block as dreadful is either operating on a different scale to me or just exaggerating for some reason. We were clapped off at half time and rightly so. We hadn't played sparkling football but should have been 2-1 up at least.

Dreadful is being played off the park and being 3-0 or worse down in my book. Or not creating a thing and looking totally unlikely to score whilst disorganised at the back at the least.

[CrazyHorse]

Ok mate. We played like Brazil first half.

[bobo the clown]

Ok mate. We played like Brazil first half.

Brazil are shite.

[CrazyHorse]

FFS. Portugal then?

[CrazyHorse]

I mean anyone but the Germans.

[thebish]

Clearly some very unrealistic expectations. Anyone describing a half where the opposition score with their only chance and we have 3 excellent chances which somehow we miss and they block as dreadful is either operating on a different scale to me or just exaggerating for some reason. We were clapped off at half time and rightly so. We hadn't played sparkling football but should have been 2-1 up at least.

Dreadful is being played off the park and being 3-0 or worse down in my book. Or not creating a thing and looking totally unlikely to score whilst disorganised at the back at the least.

Do you reckon folk might be deploying your very good friend - the hyperbole?? perhaps? maybe??

[TonyDomingos]

Mr Brown's boys are currently 19th having W1, D1, L3. They've scored 5 and conceded 8. Their only win - and 60% of their goals - came at Sheffield Utd where they were 3 up after just 15 mins. Assuming that result was an anomaly, then I ought to be disappointed if we didn't win. But, we're due a poor result at some point and this might be it. 1-1.

Blame me.

[Worthy4England]

Whilst recognising we have many imperfections, I'Lloyd take top of the League all season thanks.

[officer_dibble]

Play like that and we'll generally win the game...one of them days yesterday. Still unbeaten and still top. Mind, we'll play better teams than that.

[Prufrock]

Might be a few very short memories here. I'm thinking that before this season started if anyone had said that by September we'd have resolved our problems in the main,have a new manager, sign five decent players and, despite Captain Pratley, Max Clayton, Zak Clough and Mark Davies being injured have played six, won four and drawn two and be top of the league, somebody would have been calling for the white coat warriors. Just saying....

Abso bloody lutely

In fecking deed

[BWFC_Insane]

Also could anyone there yesterday have made any case for keeping Woolery having seen Anderson? Young Keshi is on a different level entirely imho!

[TKIZ!]

Might be a few very short memories here. I'm thinking that before this season started if anyone had said that by September we'd have resolved our problems in the main,have a new manager, sign five decent players and, despite Captain Pratley, Max Clayton, Zak Clough and Mark Davies being injured have played six, won four and drawn two and be top of the league, somebody would have been calling for the white coat warriors. Just saying....

Abso bloody lutely

In fecking deed

Blooming right!

[Tombwfc]

Also could anyone there yesterday have made any case for keeping Woolery having seen Anderson? Young Keshi is on a different level entirely imho!

Well, I can. Keshi is here for a season (and has just signed a long term deal with Palace) and Woolery was our player for keeps. Also, it wasn't an either or - Woolery could've gone out on loan (and was going to before Wigan came in). There, I've made a case.

FWIW I broadly agree with your assessment of the performance (except it wasn't a penalty, Madine just did what Madine does and missed the ball). I thought we were pretty good throughout, but conceding such a poor goal meant we had to try and break them down twice, and we weren't sharp enough in front of goal to do that.

I think Sammy should've been on sooner, lacks end product but he's a bit of a nightmare for defenders. And I didn't see what everyone else in this thread saw with Proctor - don't think he ever looked remotely like he was going to score.

[BWFC_Insane]

Also could anyone there yesterday have made any case for keeping Woolery having seen Anderson? Young Keshi is on a different level entirely imho!

Well, I can. Keshi is here for a season (and has just signed a long term deal with Palace) and Woolery was our player for keeps. Also, it wasn't an either or - Woolery could've gone out on loan (and was going to before Wigan came in). There, I've made a case.

FWIW I broadly agree with your assessment of the performance (except it wasn't a penalty, Madine just did what Madine does and missed the ball). I thought we were pretty good throughout, but conceding such a poor goal meant we had to try and break them down twice, and we weren't sharp enough in front of goal to do that.

I think Sammy should've been on sooner, lacks end product but he's a bit of a nightmare for defenders. And I didn't see what everyone else in this thread saw with Proctor - don't think he ever looked remotely like he was going to score.

I'm not sure on the incident you mean with Madine, I couldn't see that one to tell. But he was definitely pushed in the back going for a header in the box first half.

I agree otherwise, I thought Proctor was lively but he never really seemed in control and only seemed to want to try and roll defenders.

In terms of the loan vs keeping Woolery, seeing Anderson surely just confirmed that at 21 even if he developed, Woolery was a mile off being even remotely promising. Probably more than a mile at that. So much missing from his game compared to Keshi. And let's face it Keshi is only at a league one club on loan.

[Hoboh]

Thanks tango,
p*ss poor that, new players in, good start to the season, ex manager coming, should have been ready from the start

Correct. The Freight Rover was sacrificed so the first team could concentrate on beating Southend but they failed.The 3rd tier fixture list can't hand out fixtures much easier than Southend at home but we couldn't get the job done.Parky will live or die by his results and todays was shite.If we fail to win for the 3rd home game in a row next Saturday the honeymoon period will be over.

Don't talk bollocks. We dominated for 87 minutes, and we've looked the better team against everyone we faced. We're (surprise surprise) not gonna win every game. It's not feasible, and the only people expecting it want locking up in strait jackets.

We're unbeaten, top of the league and we've got another home game coming up next week. Nobody gives a toss about the EFL Trophy, particularly in this year's format. Give your head a shake.

You can dominate for the whole game if you want, if you don't score more than the opposition ''its bollocks'' my point is we are at home to southend and we have had the best start in seasons, we have some good new signings and should be up for a home game and 3 points, we are trying to get back to the championship so yes I do want us to win every home game.

It's a competitive league this. The idea that we are that good we will just thump teams is absolute bollocks. Every game is a battle. Every game can go either way.

Not saying we shouldn't have won today but we aren't getting gimmes. We were possibly lucky to beat Fleetwood and definitely rode out luck against Sheff Utd. Today Southend rode their luck against us. It happens. We were appalling last season and there was a real possibility we'd sink again. Things are miles better than they could have been. As someone rang in the radio to say, if someone just a month or so back had offered him a draw against Southend he'd have snatched their hands off. How short our memories can be sometimes.

No more than any other.

[BWFC_Insane]

No more than any other.

We aren't in any other. Though I'd argue there is less between teams in this league than the two above it. Every game is a battle and the quality gap isn't huge.

[Hoboh]

No more than any other.

We aren't in any other. Though I'd argue there is less between teams in this league than the two above it. Every game is a battle and the quality gap isn't huge.

I'll have a look later but I'm sure you claimed somewhere that the Championship was the hardest league, guess it's a standard change of plan for socialists.

[officer_dibble]

He's fond of hyperbole, fck all to do with politics!! Can we please keep political bullshit out of here, depressing.

[BWFC_Insane]

No more than any other.

We aren't in any other. Though I'd argue there is less between teams in this league than the two above it. Every game is a battle and the quality gap isn't huge.

I'll have a look later but I'm sure you claimed somewhere that the Championship was the hardest league, guess it's a standard change of plan for socialists.

The championship is the toughest league now because of the spending there plus the general quality across it. What I said about this league is that every game is competitive because there isn't a massive difference between teams.

We are unbeaten. We'd not be unbeaten in the championship.

[Hoboh]

He's fond of hyperbole, fck all to do with politics!! Can we please keep political bullshit out of here, depressing.

Point taken, sorry mate.