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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:41 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:51 pm
My worry is, they've defaulted on a loan, secured against assets and they're willing to let the ground go, in order so that they don't have to repay the debt.

That's my hunch and it's shared by a few, that I know of.

We need to keep the ground
What loan have the defaulted on secured against assets?

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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by boltonboris » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:23 pm

A £5.5m one that wasn't declared in the last set of accounts... "apparently"
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:24 pm

Minor details reported in the SD article https://supporters-direct.org/articles/ ... -wanderers
The failure to repay a £5.5 million loan, secured on group company assets, due for repayment in January 2017 and therefore in default.
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:54 pm

Without reading too deeply between lines, there seems to be a marked sense of distrust, or at best an uneasy/disturbed feeling amongst some factions that K.A isn't being quite above board about some items. Worrying, to say the least.
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Post by boltonboris » Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:34 pm

I'm not saying there's anything that isn't above board. I just don't think he's as transparent as some believe. But that's to be expected in business. Not everybody, should, or does know everything
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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:58 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:24 pm
Minor details reported in the SD article https://supporters-direct.org/articles/ ... -wanderers
The failure to repay a £5.5 million loan, secured on group company assets, due for repayment in January 2017 and therefore in default.
That loan is in the accounts. It is referenced directly. It is a loan from Prescott Business Park. Taken out before Ken was involved. In the accounts Ken says they are working with PbP to look at repayment options.

Looking on companies house it seems that the loan is secured against shares.

It's not some mystery. I'm sure it has been stated that PbP provided that loan to help the club out and are supportive of the club. As you've said before, given they own the Middlebrook they probably need the club existing.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm

Ah well, speculation is speculation. We'll no doubt find out somewhere along the line.
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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:18 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm
Ah well, speculation is speculation. We'll no doubt find out somewhere along the line.
Lot of over active imaginations out there!

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:18 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm
Ah well, speculation is speculation. We'll no doubt find out somewhere along the line.
Lot of over active imaginations out there!
Mine was/is one of them. Isn't £5.5mill the amount that Deano's outfit owed with interest? And wasn't that secured against the stadium? And didn't KA magic up £5.5mill out of nowhere to buy Deano's mob's shares?.
My active imagination is telling me that KA hasn't reimbursed BluMarble for Deano's bankrupt shares and that the asset still outstanding is the stadium.
I'm NOT saying that's the facts, but that is defo what My Overactive Imagination came up with.
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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:16 pm

Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:18 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm
Ah well, speculation is speculation. We'll no doubt find out somewhere along the line.
Lot of over active imaginations out there!
Mine was/is one of them. Isn't £5.5mill the amount that Deano's outfit owed with interest? And wasn't that secured against the stadium? And didn't KA magic up £5.5mill out of nowhere to buy Deano's mob's shares?.
My active imagination is telling me that KA hasn't reimbursed BluMarble for Deano's bankrupt shares and that the asset still outstanding is the stadium.
I'm NOT saying that's the facts, but that is defo what My Overactive Imagination came up with.
Holdsworth's loan was 5M. Secured against physical assets. Ken bought Deano's shares from the administrator for what one imagines was a very low number. He then renegotiated the terms of that loan repayment with blumarble.

That's all a matter of public record. The loan is very much outstanding but was renegotiated.

The loan referred to in this thread is one taken out prior to the takeover and is secured against shares. It was due in January this year. Seemingly PbP are cooperative and not after taking direct action at this stage. Given the loan was to keep the club going at the time, it seems likely that PbP are still cooperative.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:34 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:16 pm
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:30 pm
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:18 pm
TANGODANCER wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 7:15 pm
Ah well, speculation is speculation. We'll no doubt find out somewhere along the line.
Lot of over active imaginations out there!
Mine was/is one of them. Isn't £5.5mill the amount that Deano's outfit owed with interest? And wasn't that secured against the stadium? And didn't KA magic up £5.5mill out of nowhere to buy Deano's mob's shares?.
My active imagination is telling me that KA hasn't reimbursed BluMarble for Deano's bankrupt shares and that the asset still outstanding is the stadium.
I'm NOT saying that's the facts, but that is defo what My Overactive Imagination came up with.
Holdsworth's loan was 5M. Secured against physical assets. Ken bought Deano's shares from the administrator for what one imagines was a very low number. He then renegotiated the terms of that loan repayment with blumarble.

That's all a matter of public record. The loan is very much outstanding but was renegotiated.

The loan referred to in this thread is one taken out prior to the takeover and is secured against shares. It was due in January this year. Seemingly PbP are cooperative and not after taking direct action at this stage. Given the loan was to keep the club going at the time, it seems likely that PbP are still cooperative.
Yep, I get that. I was just pointing out as a matter of interest that overactive imaginations are a fact of life and not necessarily a product of conspiracy theories...
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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by boltonboris » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:35 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 6:58 pm
boltonboris wrote:
Wed Oct 04, 2017 4:24 pm
Minor details reported in the SD article https://supporters-direct.org/articles/ ... -wanderers
The failure to repay a £5.5 million loan, secured on group company assets, due for repayment in January 2017 and therefore in default.
That loan is in the accounts. It is referenced directly. It is a loan from Prescott Business Park. Taken out before Ken was involved. In the accounts Ken says they are working with PbP to look at repayment options.

Looking on companies house it seems that the loan is secured against shares.

It's not some mystery. I'm sure it has been stated that PbP provided that loan to help the club out and are supportive of the club. As you've said before, given they own the Middlebrook they probably need the club existing.
Thought that was an injection from Orbit Developments...

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Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:31 pm

According to this LOV piece, it looks like Ken is looking to sell for £25m.

https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/ ... rs-for-25m

Bargain.

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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by elhadj » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:41 pm

This is what I'm said a long long time , every time he go out and said I support Phil Parkinson during this bad start , I have this feeling that Ken Anderson will not put any penny in Bolton and doesn't care about Bolton he is only care about his money , but if the news is correct that he want to sell his share for about 25m it is a good price for anyone interest in Bolton .

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Post by Nicko58 » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:19 am

It's now been confirmed by the BN
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:09 am

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:31 pm
Ken is looking to sell for £25m.
Less than Palace paid for Mamadou Sakho. A third of a Lukaku.

Apples and oranges, I know, but...

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Oct 06, 2017 10:03 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:09 am
bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:31 pm
Ken is looking to sell for £25m.
Less than Palace paid for Mamadou Sakho. A third of a Lukaku.

Apples and oranges, I know, but...
Less than we paid to build the Reebok, to put it in more pertinent terms.
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Re: Ken Anderson - New Owner (Definitely. For Now ..... )

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:14 am

Hang on. Didn't Kenneth tell us numerous times that he had investment lined up ready to go and just needed to get Deano out of the way? :roll:

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:35 am

The most recent Kenny Log-Ins says we're only for sale if someone comes in with serious wedge and that Isles is talking shite as per.

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/octobe ... chairman3/
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:01 pm

There must be some kind of way outta here said the owner to the supporter
There's too much confusion
I can't get no reliable reporter

Businessmen they feck about
Of playermen there's a dearth
None can perform on a level playing pitch
Nobody's up to my worth
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