The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Worthy4England » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:01 pm

^^ Only if we retain the ability to shift to 4-2-4 when 0-2 down...

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:32 pm

Worthy4England wrote:
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^^ Only if we retain the ability to shift to 4-2-4 when 0-2 down...
:D and take off the only midfielder who can tackle...

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Post by jmjhb » Thu Jun 29, 2017 5:33 pm

Conor Wilkinson has gone to Gillingham on a permanent deal.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Dr Hotdog » Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:35 am

boltonboris wrote:
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Wonder if a loan for (Reece Burke) might also pave the way for a similar deal over Josh Cullen, two months Burke's senior.
http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... loan_deal/
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:02 am

The morning Iles:

Buckley expected to sign two-year deal today after medical yesterday, but we’re still chasing Ameobi (whose demands have dropped from Frankly Laughable to Possibly Achievable) and “hope to wrap up” Burke & Cullen “by next week”.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... r_Buckley/

Also: Samizadeh set for loan to SPL Kilmarnock (sounds like till January)

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... he_border/

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Peter Thompson » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:39 am

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:02 am
The morning Iles:

Buckley expected to sign two-year deal today after medical yesterday, but we’re still chasing Ameobi (whose demands have dropped from Frankly Laughable to Possibly Achievable) and “hope to wrap up” Burke & Cullen “by next week”.

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... r_Buckley/

Also: Samizadeh set for loan to SPL Kilmarnock (sounds like till January)

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... he_border/
Buckley would be a fantastic signing - one of the best in recent years

Cullen would also be a great loan signing in central midfield, far better than Spearing IMO

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Post by boltonboris » Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:49 pm

Doesn't Buckley have a really bad injury record?
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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Jun 30, 2017 1:42 pm

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Doesn't Buckley have a really bad injury record?
Maybe we're looking at a here and now, six million dollar scenario "We have the technology" etc..? We surely wouldn't give him a contract otherwise.?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:01 pm

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Doesn't Buckley have a really bad injury record?
Someone asked a Brighton forum about Buckley. Selected responses:
• A hamstring made of glass.
• Wonderful player on his day. Scintillating burst of pace and devastating finish
• There was one helluva player in there a few years ago - a real game changer with invention, speed, finishing - at times the whole package. Was never quite the same after lots of injuries robbed him of pace. The move to Sunderland worked out to be a poor choice for him (and Liam Bridcutt) from a playing perspective, and he certainly has been a shadow of the player he was. Not seen him for so long now that assume he will never have the same pace again, so can he adapt his game to be a different type of player
• He was great for us when fit, fast and direct. If he's over his hamstring problems you've got a gem.
• The key for him will be going to a club who intend to play him regularly, that's what he needs. Stop/start is going to kill him because he needs a run of games to hit top form. … If he didn't have fitness concerns, he'd be playing regularly in the Premier League.
• Wonderful player when on form which is one in 10. Tends to go - Average, average, brilliant, injured x 7 and start again.
• He could pull a Hamstring typing an email
• Wimp - end of. Had and still has an over inflated status from some fans because of the opening game at The Amex. Will cry off at the drop of a hat if he doesn't fancy it on the day.
• Great player on his day, if he had two hamstrings he'd be in the PL.
• Could be a superb signing. Giggs didn't get over his hamstrings until his later 20s. Buckley still played 30+ games per season with us for 3 seasons. Well worth a risk I'd say, I saw the thread [titled Will Buckley] and thought we might have had a punt taking him back!
• Without having to trawl back through the thread, did anyone mention the hamstrings?

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jun 30, 2017 2:16 pm

At the risk of confirmation bias, Googling Will Buckley injury leads to a sorry story...
24 Apr 2014
Winger Will Buckley hopes to end the season on a high with Brighton & Hove Albion after an injury-hit campaign. The 24-year-old has missed two months with hamstring trouble… "Getting back to fitness is difficult sometimes. My form has not been there,” he told BBC Sussex...

11 Mar 2015
Sunderland boss Gus Poyet reckons winger Will Buckley's injury problems have held back the Black Cats this season. Winger Buckley has been out of action for almost two months due to a knee injury…

21 Sep 2015
Sunderland winger Will Buckley is joining Leeds United on loan. Leeds tried to sign Buckley in August but were unable to match his wages (MailOnline)...

15 Jan 2016
Birmingham City have signed Sunderland winger Will Buckley on loan. Manager Gary Rowett: “When he played at Brighton, he was perfect for a counterattacking system. He's very athletic, good pace, two footed, travels well with the ball and has that little bit of Premier League quality in the final third. If we can get that out of him and have him enjoying his football again, I think we'll have a really top signing on our hands"...

5 Aug 2016
Sheffield Wednesday have signed Sunderland winger Will Buckley on a season-long loan. Buckley, 26, has been a peripheral figure at the Stadium of Light for the majority of his two years at the club and did not feature last season…

4 Dec 2016
Sheffield Wednesday winger Will Buckley hopes to make a speedy recovery from the nasty shoulder injury he sustained in their 2-1 victory over Preston North End. The Sunderland loanee, a first-half replacement for the injured Ross Wallace, was clattered into by Preston goalkeeper… [the shoulder injury ruled him out for a couple of months]
...but we have to assume that we will do our due diligence, and we've rebuilt broken men before...

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:32 pm

BUCKLEY SIGNS

Club confirmed. Two-year contract.
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https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/june/b ... l-buckley/

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Peter Thompson » Fri Jun 30, 2017 4:42 pm

Will Buckley - excellent signing, very good attacking midfielder / winger, if we can keep him fit he'll create loads

Much better signing than Ameobi IMO

Well done KA & PP....

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by officer_dibble » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:05 pm

If tomos happy Im happy

I would still take Ameobi though. Left footed. Not sure how Morais and Buckley fit into the same team. Is Buckley one of them that likes playing on the wrong side?

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Peter Thompson » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:25 pm

officer_dibble wrote:
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If tomos happy Im happy

I would still take Ameobi though. Left footed. Not sure how Morais and Buckley fit into the same team. Is Buckley one of them that likes playing on the wrong side?
This is one of the best free transfer signings we could have ever expected - Buckley is twice the player Morias is (and I really like Morais) - and he's completely different, he's had his injury problems (although he's only 27), but if he hadn't we wouldn't have got him on a free.

He's a tall, direct, pacey, creative winger who on his day can be unplayable, and he likes to take defenders on - hopefully we can get him fit & strong and give him games, because he needs to be a regular starter not a sub.

Morias & Buckley won't be in the same starting XI - Buckley would have to start with Morias as sub.

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Re: The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

Post by Little Green Man » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:12 pm

Peter Thompson wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:25 pm

Morias & Buckley won't be in the same starting XI - Buckley would have to start with Morias as sub.
A quick shuftie of the internet suggests Buckley can play on either wing or even as a forward.

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Post by bristol_Wanderer3 » Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:58 pm

I am quite happy with the Buckley signing. With our finances and ubiquitous embargo, this is the kind of signing we have to make. It is a gamble, but gives us a chance of having much needed creativity, and presumably is a signing falls within our budget. There is probably more chance of Buckley being a flop but if he isn't and stays fit and plays well he will lift us up this league. Lets hope the backroom team that turned Wheater into an almost ever present last year can have the same effect on Buckley.

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Post by TANGODANCER » Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:33 pm

bristol_Wanderer3 wrote:
Fri Jun 30, 2017 10:58 pm
I am quite happy with the Buckley signing. With our finances and ubiquitous embargo, this is the kind of signing we have to make. It is a gamble, but gives us a chance of having much needed creativity, and presumably is a signing falls within our budget. There is probably more chance of Buckley being a flop but if he isn't and stays fit and plays well he will lift us up this league. Lets hope the backroom team that turned Wheater into an almost ever present last year can have the same effect on Buckley.
To be honest B-W3 , I saw this signing as a small ( maybe not too small) indication, along with the rest of our transactions, as a positive sign that the Ken man and Parky are combining to build us a squad. So far, with Wheater, Alf, Morais, Taylor and Dervite etc, seeming to want to be here despite our cap on earnings, it all looks pretty promising so far.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:07 am

Flexibility is important. I'm sure we want to go 3-5-2 sometimes and 4-5-1 others. Possibly even 4-4-2.

Bottom line is that if we want to play ALF up front in his normal position it will mean 3 at the back. IMHO.

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Post by Little Green Man » Mon Jul 03, 2017 7:44 pm

Some news other than missed payments and Twitter spats. Two re-signed, a new name and a cull of youth.

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2017/july/y ... -to-paper/

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Jul 04, 2017 9:57 am

Missed out on Niall McGinn, who's going to South Korea #IKnowYouGotSeoul

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