The Promotion Commotion Transfer Thread 2017

[boltonboris]

The Vela fee will be this £3m that Kenneth was hinting about getting in as additional revenue for half season tickets.

So when he flogs them, he can say, "well it's your own fault because not enough of you want to pay through the fvckin teeth for sub-standard football"

Is it really too much to expect 20K for a town the size of Bolton to support the team? Especially off the back of a promotion.

Yes it is. We could offer free tickets for the rest of the season and the people of Bolton wouldn't turn up, because they'd have to pay £4 for the bus

[BWFC_Insane]

The Vela fee will be this £3m that Kenneth was hinting about getting in as additional revenue for half season tickets.

So when he flogs them, he can say, "well it's your own fault because not enough of you want to pay through the fvckin teeth for sub-standard football"

Is it really too much to expect 20K for a town the size of Bolton to support the team? Especially off the back of a promotion.

Yes it is. We could offer free tickets for the rest of the season and the people of Bolton wouldn't turn up, because they'd have to pay £4 for the bus

Or get out of bed!

[bristol_Wanderer3]

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/sport/fo ... -1-8895229

Madine now rumoured to be interesting Sunderland in January. Interesting the article says Sunderland have little funds to work with, and so their interest in Madine. A similar sentiment was expressed in the Vela rumour, suggesting we need to sell. Is there some sort of assumption out there that we are under such pressure to sell that we will accept cut priced bids? Is that true?

[boltonboris]

Yes it is. We don't have enough money to last the season.

We currently have a Business Recovery specialist 'advising us' called Cowgill Holloway. They were initially appointed Auditors and still act in that role, but other areas of the accountancy business are being used in order to try and see us through.

We've also still got unpaid PAYE bills

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Well, we can always play ALF up top, as that's what The Public want

[Harry Genshaw]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

[BWFC_Insane]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

Depends. Looks a good deal for Clough right now doesn't it?

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

Got decent wedge for Anelka thanks to him signing a contract extension (under Sammy Lee?)

[Harry Genshaw]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

Depends. Looks a good deal for Clough right now doesn't it?

It does but at the time we felt short changed. There's plenty more like that too who became a bit of a disaster for their new clubs - Curcic, Thompson, Walsh, McDonagh etc

I was thinking more of someone who when the offer came in we couldn't believe our luck. £3.5m for CYL seemed a decent fee at the time and I was surprised when Blackpool gave us a million and a half for Chris Basham

[BWFC_Insane]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

Depends. Looks a good deal for Clough right now doesn't it?

It does but at the time we felt short changed. There's plenty more like that too who became a bit of a disaster for their new clubs - Curcic, Thompson, Walsh, McDonagh etc

I was thinking more of someone who when the offer came in we couldn't believe our luck. £3.5m for CYL seemed a decent fee at the time and I was surprised when Blackpool gave us a million and a half for Chris Basham

Some of that has been circumstance. Some has been bad luck. A lot is that we haven't really developed top talent through our youth structure. We've never had a Walcott for example to sell.

We had 18M agreed for Cahill in a deal with City till City's recruitment team changed and they backed out of the deal.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

I think we only got something like £500k for CYL?? He only had six months left on his deal when he left, can't see us receiving £3.5m?

It is pretty hard to get top dollar, if everyone correctly believes we are skint and desperate for any kind of reasonable fee just to survive. Ken needs to up his bluffing skills and make it seem like we don't need to sell, easier said than done perhaps. Anyway noises in today's BEN are a start:

http://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/wa ... _interest/

Target man Hugill at Preston reportedly attracted an £8m bid in the summer, Zohore at Cardiff £10m. Ridiculous as it may seem, we shouldn't entertain any bids that are below £5m imho. That would immediately rule Sunderland out...

[Bruce Rioja]

£1M for Rob Holding.

[Rjs37]

It's not because we're seen as a soft touch as well is it? I was thinking - who did we last get top dollar for or when did we last get some mugs to overpay?

Got decent wedge for Anelka thanks to him signing a contract extension (under Sammy Lee?)

Yeah Anelka is really the only one that comes to mind and even then I don't think they overpaid for him. Just one of the few instances where we didn't get short-changed. We've never been all that good at negotiations.

I think Anderson will be a lot better in that respect, but with the financial situation that we're in, he may not have that much choice. I think we'll probably demand some clauses on any deals, sell-on and target based bonuses, but I'd be surprised to see us sell Vela for more than 2m up-front. We're desperate for some cash and everyone knows it.

[TANGODANCER]

I think about now our press should report we are a footbal team and not a cut-price stud farm. We breed good young players and have had quite a few decent ones, more decent than the bargain basement some clubs seem to see us as. So, unless sensible offers are going to be made, the shop's shut. We're first and foremost a football club and need to keep players if we're going to survive as one. If a business is all we are, football as Bolton Wanderers will soon be on the way out in favour of real estate. You might tell me we're a selling club: That might have worked in the past, but won't work where we are right now. Take a leaf from the supermarket's book; they only sell date-jaded stuff at cut price; anything new goes up in price overnight week by week. Why would Madine (apart from roots location) want to swap one bottom end club for another except they might offer a few bob more in wages ? That won't do him that much good if they get relegated.

[Harry Genshaw]

Anelka is probably our best sale in recent years, although I seem to remember a few on here thinking we were letting him go cheaply at the time. In hindsight it turned out about right for both parties.

Madine would almost certainly be offered a significant pay rise by the Mackems which could turn his head. £4m + Vaughan?

[BWFC_Insane]

Anelka is probably our best sale in recent years, although I seem to remember a few on here thinking we were letting him go cheaply at the time. In hindsight it turned out about right for both parties.

Madine would almost certainly be offered a significant pay rise by the Mackems which could turn his head. £4m + Vaughan?

No thanks.

We need someone who can do the work, not someone who will be injured every other week. Cannot see Madine going a) because we'll want lots of money and b) he's a Newcastle fan and not the most level-headed bloke around, can't see him in Sunderland going down too well.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Per BN, a club spokesperson says our (best?) players aren't for sale.

We have had no interest in any of our players and if we did it would not be entertained. The manager and the chief scout are meeting today to discuss their plans for next month. We are only interested in bringing players in.

PP says 'January' a lot:

We really can’t afford to weaken this squad at this stage and in January we have to make sure that, of all the teams in that bottom group, we come out of January in better shape than when we started it. Obviously January depends on the loan players and that will kind of work its way out but I don’t want the supporters to think that once January 1 comes there will be an influx of players walking in the door, I want to make sure we keep the ones we’ve got, we keep the strength, because January is a difficult transfer window because teams don’t let players go easily. Clubs keep the players who are available for loan around them to get them through that FA Cup period. We’re prepared to be patient.

Iles says Antonee's loan will be extended, "an agreement is in place".

[bristol_Wanderer3]

Per BN, a club spokesperson says our (best?) players aren't for sale.

We have had no interest in any of our players and if we did it would not be entertained. The manager and the chief scout are meeting today to discuss their plans for next month. We are only interested in bringing players in.

I like this statement, even if it is likely false. We need to be better at bluffing if we are to get the fees necessary that are going to make a difference.

[boltonboris]

A Forest supporting mate of mine has told me that Clough to Bolton on loan is practically a done deal pending Forest bringing in one of 2 targets which are close. John McGinn from Hibs is going to City Ground for £2.5m

[BWFC_Insane]

A Forest supporting mate of mine has told me that Clough to Bolton on loan is practically a done deal pending Forest bringing in one of 2 targets which are close. John McGinn from Hibs is going to City Ground for £2.5m

I will be surprised. However there is talk of it.

I mean the move's been bad for his career (beyond the cash he's getting) and I'm sure wasn't ideally what he wanted anyway.

Where I struggle is seeing him as better on the left (cos thats where he'd play) than Armstrong or Buckley - who is increasingly starting to show a bit of class.

Clough is technically better, but in this league where we have less possession I wonder how he would improve the team without the pace of Armstrong as an outlet or the all round game of Buckley.