Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread
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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread
I suggested him earlier. Got a good strike rate.
Last year in League One14 goals at a a fair clip of 1 per 180 mins.
Career in the Championship 64 goals (25 assists) at respectable 221 mins per similar to ALF's career 213 mins.
In the Prem clearly used as a sub 18 (11 assists) at decent 384 mins per.
At 6ft, if he has legs still he'd be an upgrade on what we got.
Apparently on a fair whack, although if that's a lot for League One or Championship I don't know. Although if you avoid a fee you expect to pay a extra wages...
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It seems Graham is on a FREE but keen to stay on at Jackburn.
Lancashire Telegraph journalist Rich Sharpe has confirmed that the clause Nixon mentions became null and void when Rovers were relegated back in 2017.
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RE: Danny Graham. The option that was in his contact became redundant when #Rovers were relegated. So he’s out of contract as of the end of this month. However, he wants to stay at Rovers and I expect that he will. https://twitter.com/richsharpe89/status ... 4837120001 …
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Lancashire Telegraph journalist Rich Sharpe has confirmed that the clause Nixon mentions became null and void when Rovers were relegated back in 2017.
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RE: Danny Graham. The option that was in his contact became redundant when #Rovers were relegated. So he’s out of contract as of the end of this month. However, he wants to stay at Rovers and I expect that he will. https://twitter.com/richsharpe89/status ... 4837120001 …
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Chungy was on 25K a week at Palace. I'd forget about him unless nobody has bitten come end of August. I'm hearing we can go to about 12K a week max for one striker. Rest have to be sub 10K.
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Ameobi was offered big terms elsewhere this week. He wants to stay but Bolton aren't offering anything like what is on offer elsewhere. Likely to go. Morais is done and will stay barring a last minute change of heart.
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Thus it will always be. Each time we get a decent player we can't afford to compete with almost any club in keeping them. Be nice if a bit of club loyalty was shown, but we all know that can never compete with a bigger wage checks . Personally, I'd cap the whole of football wages at five grand a week and make them sort their own deals with the club. Greedy agents to be dispensed with completely, admission prices to become affordable and stuff Sky and co. Pipe-dream of course, but dreaming hasn't become an outrage topic...yet.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:27 amAmeobi was offered big terms elsewhere this week. He wants to stay but Bolton aren't offering anything like what is on offer elsewhere. Likely to go. Morais is done and will stay barring a last minute change of heart.
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In case it's of interest – I suspect it's not - Brendan Rodgers' Celtic and Steven Gerrard's Rangers are said to be interested. (Well, this being football news, they're said to be Set To Battle It Out In An Old Firm Ex-Anfield Scrap, etc etc.)Dave Sutton's barnet wrote: ↑Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:10 pmElsewhere, for the record, Liverpool confirm they're releasing Jon Flanagan
Doubt we can match their wages for someone who was on £25kpw at LFC; doubt there's overwhelming urge to do so; sure there's other priorities.
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Flanagan was a real mixed bag for us. In the Villa win I remember thinking he looked a real class act but towards the end of the season he seemed all at sea and I was pleased when Little came back in.
Someone, somewhere will pay him far more than he's worth. As you say DSB, our priorities for who will be our big earners, lie elsewhere
Someone, somewhere will pay him far more than he's worth. As you say DSB, our priorities for who will be our big earners, lie elsewhere
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Nixon suggesting that we are in for an experienced midfielder. Want to take a look at him in training. May put a piece in tomorrow's paper about it
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I don't think it's a case of losing out, we are offering what we think players are worth. If they go to someone overpaying, let them. We've been there done that and lived the consequences.TANGODANCER wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:01 amThus it will always be. Each time we get a decent player we can't afford to compete with almost any club in keeping them. Be nice if a bit of club loyalty was shown, but we all know that can never compete with a bigger wage checks . Personally, I'd cap the whole of football wages at five grand a week and make them sort their own deals with the club. Greedy agents to be dispensed with completely, admission prices to become affordable and stuff Sky and co. Pipe-dream of course, but dreaming hasn't become an outrage topic...yet.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 9:27 amAmeobi was offered big terms elsewhere this week. He wants to stay but Bolton aren't offering anything like what is on offer elsewhere. Likely to go. Morais is done and will stay barring a last minute change of heart.
Releasing Henry and Pratley was a big statement to me. We are determined to be better than last season. Had we kept them I'd be worried. As it is we've already signed a younger version.
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I still don't get the Ameobi thing. Bar one or two games, he was poor last season I believe, something which has been a pattern throughout his career. I'd be happy to see him go.
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Depends how you view it. He can do things in a pitch no other player can. That will win you points, not just in obvious ways, but for example his ability to hold the ball in a tight situation and keep it away from your goal. Equally he can be frustrating. Hard to replace imo as those with more consistent end product cost fortunes and there aren't many around like him.
He was at times our only outlet. Having said that he isn't consistent enough to break the bank for. Also his asthma will always hold him back.
I'd love him to stay. But if he goes we move on.
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My first post on here for about 7 years.
Personally I'd be very disappointed if we lost Ameobi as I think he'd likely improve for playing in a more technically minded team. I'd also see it as a worrying sign if we're not able to offer reasonable wages to a player like him, as it would seem a strong indication that we are not going to be in a competitive position this season.
Personally I'd be very disappointed if we lost Ameobi as I think he'd likely improve for playing in a more technically minded team. I'd also see it as a worrying sign if we're not able to offer reasonable wages to a player like him, as it would seem a strong indication that we are not going to be in a competitive position this season.
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Also if we are as financially hamstrung as we appear to be, we're really going to up our game in the loan market. If you look back at the players we had in last year too many of them made little to no impact. If we're committed to playing better football this season then we should be pursuing loan deals for players from the top PL academies.
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We are competitive wage wise now. We couldn't sign Lowe last year due to the restrictions. Now we have some leeway and will be competitive with the bottom 8 or so wage wise.The_Gun wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:38 pmMy first post on here for about 7 years.
Personally I'd be very disappointed if we lost Ameobi as I think he'd likely improve for playing in a more technically minded team. I'd also see it as a worrying sign if we're not able to offer reasonable wages to a player like him, as it would seem a strong indication that we are not going to be in a competitive position this season.
Doesn't mean we want to blow loads on Ameobi. He ultimately will never be consistent enough to be a really top player.
We are in a really good position now. Finally. We can reshape the squad and set a sensible and competitive if modest by the overall divisions standards wage bill.
First chance we've had to do that for 3/4 years.
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Just hope we don't sign two shite players for the price of one good one. Never a good strategy.
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The_Gun wrote: ↑Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:38 pmMy first post on here for about 7 years.
Personally I'd be very disappointed if we lost Ameobi as I think he'd likely improve for playing in a more technically minded team. I'd also see it as a worrying sign if we're not able to offer reasonable wages to a player like him, as it would seem a strong indication that we are not going to be in a competitive position this season.
Me too. Right wing is now a position that has gone backwards. Ameobi was a gamebreaker that could dribble and crack defences. Morais mainly on the field for his deadball skills was expendable, especially if Oztumer comes in.
What is happening with the Turk? Wages holdup? Will it happen?
At the moment we've arguably only upgraded defensive mid.
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Re: Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread
MAYBE?...
Dean Marney – Burnley defensive midfielder
Age would be a big problem, as he turns 35 in January, as is the fact he didn’t play last season due to cruciate ligament damage. Nottingham Forest are keen on him though, which could suggest he could still do a job at Championship level.
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If the Marney rumour has anything in it, I don't see why we didn't keep the uninjured Henry instead??
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Such was my first thought. I'm sure Henry would have jumped at the chance and at the right money.
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We don't know what goes on behind the scenes and what was offered though. My view is that Henry was vital to us staying up last year, and easily our best player to play on that deeper pivot two. It was also clear at the end of the season that time was catching up. No way he can play 90 move every week for a season.
I'd have offered him a year on middling money to effectively be a squad player. It's possible we did and he didn't fancy it.
I'd have offered him a year on middling money to effectively be a squad player. It's possible we did and he didn't fancy it.
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