Reconstruction time again: the summer 2018 transfer thread

[palindromeofbolton]

PREM LEAGUE: Senegalese/French left back Massidro Haidara and Aussie CB Curtis Good fringe Newcastle backs on frees. Both 25. Any good?

Don't think you could be more of a fringe player than Curtis Good. Two appearances in six seasons? He would actually have played under PP when he went out on loan to Bradford. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Good

Sounds like Haidara's been hit with injuries.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/f ... a-14213128
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massadio_Ha%C3%AFdara

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Oztumer's a very good No.10. Last season he ran the game against us down there, scored from 40 yards at ours. He scored 15 goals last season too. I'd love to see us bid for him - a different kind of player - but he may get offered more money elsewhere; that said, he's never played above the third tier, so it depends how many teams are willing to take a risk. (He's 27 this month.)

[BWFC_Insane]

Oztumer's a very good No.10. Last season he ran the game against us down there, scored from 40 yards at ours. He scored 15 goals last season too. I'd love to see us bid for him - a different kind of player - but he may get offered more money elsewhere; that said, he's never played above the third tier, so it depends how many teams are willing to take a risk. (He's 27 this month.)

For me we should build primarly a team full of pace and power. I think that is the key at this level. Then go and beg Chungy to come back and be our number 10.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Oztumer's a very good No.10. Last season he ran the game against us down there, scored from 40 yards at ours. He scored 15 goals last season too. I'd love to see us bid for him - a different kind of player - but he may get offered more money elsewhere; that said, he's never played above the third tier, so it depends how many teams are willing to take a risk. (He's 27 this month.)

For me we should build primarly a team full of pace and power. I think that is the key at this level. Then go and beg Chungy to come back and be our number 10.

First part I can see (but you still need a lock-picker). Pinning it all on Chungy, especially as a 10, less so. The loan move would have made sense in a World Cup spring, but a permanent move would have too many blocks IMO - wage, ambition, alternatives, suitability.

[BWFC_Insane]

Oztumer's a very good No.10. Last season he ran the game against us down there, scored from 40 yards at ours. He scored 15 goals last season too. I'd love to see us bid for him - a different kind of player - but he may get offered more money elsewhere; that said, he's never played above the third tier, so it depends how many teams are willing to take a risk. (He's 27 this month.)

For me we should build primarly a team full of pace and power. I think that is the key at this level. Then go and beg Chungy to come back and be our number 10.

First part I can see (but you still need a lock-picker). Pinning it all on Chungy, especially as a 10, less so. The loan move would have made sense in a World Cup spring, but a permanent move would have too many blocks IMO - wage, ambition, alternatives, suitability.

Contingent on us having some injection of finance obviously.

He's 29, so unless a promoted team wants him I suspect if he wants to remain in England a championship side will be his best bet for regular football.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

He's 29, so unless a promoted team wants him I suspect if he wants to remain in England a championship side will be his best bet for regular football.

Yeah, maybe.

Like I say I'd have welcomed him in January and I'd hardly be averse now. But I just think he's one of those where if he hadn't played for us it would make so little sense as to seem faintly absurd. Like Kevin Davies for manager...

[BWFC_Insane]

He's 29, so unless a promoted team wants him I suspect if he wants to remain in England a championship side will be his best bet for regular football.

Yeah, maybe.

Like I say I'd have welcomed him in January and I'd hardly be averse now. But I just think he's one of those where if he hadn't played for us it would make so little sense as to seem faintly absurd. Like Kevin Davies for manager...

What doesn't make sense about it? IF we have money and can build a side with some pace we need that clever player to dictate games. For me Chungy was at his best here in the number 10 role under Neil Lennon for half a season. He'd be ideal IMHO.

IF we have money that is.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

What doesn't make sense about it? IF we have money and can build a side with some pace we need that clever player to dictate games. For me Chungy was at his best here in the number 10 role under Neil Lennon for half a season. He'd be ideal IMHO.

IF we have money that is.

I don't think he's the best fit for us, I don't think we're the best fit for him, he doesn't strike me as ideal Parky fodder, and I suspect memories may have become a little rose-tinted. I liked him, he was capable, but he's been effectively unemployed for seasons and "IF" we have money I suspect there may be alternative options. ("IF" we have money, depending how much, we may not just be looking at freebies, for example.)

That big IF is going to affect a lot of these conversations this summer...

Anyway, in absentio goldmine, we should soon start hearing about clubs releasing players. Midfielder Luke Hyam is leaving Ipswich, who – according to local press this morning - will also be releasing our January target David McGoldrick ("silky striker", 30years old, 45 in 126+33 for Ipswich, eight this season, but injury-wracked).

[BWFC_Insane]

What doesn't make sense about it? IF we have money and can build a side with some pace we need that clever player to dictate games. For me Chungy was at his best here in the number 10 role under Neil Lennon for half a season. He'd be ideal IMHO.

IF we have money that is.

I don't think he's the best fit for us, I don't think we're the best fit for him, he doesn't strike me as ideal Parky fodder, and I suspect memories may have become a little rose-tinted. I liked him, he was capable, but he's been effectively unemployed for seasons and "IF" we have money I suspect there may be alternative options. ("IF" we have money, depending how much, we may not just be looking at freebies, for example.)

That big IF is going to affect a lot of these conversations this summer...

Anyway, in absentio goldmine, we should soon start hearing about clubs releasing players. Midfielder Luke Hyam is leaving Ipswich, who – according to local press this morning - will also be releasing our January target David McGoldrick ("silky striker", 30years old, 45 in 126+33 for Ipswich, eight this season, but injury-wracked).

Personally, I doubt we'll get better than Chungy. For me someone who in the right side would be a top, top player in the championship as it stands. Few years back I'd have said he wasn't physical enough, but the league is becoming more technical. I'd certainly prefer him to a lad who hasn't ever been above the lower reaches of league one.

[Dave Sutton's barnet]

Some Champo players falling out of contract:

Birmingham's Jason Lowe - defensive midfielder, 26yo, we went for last summer as he wept his way out of Ewood. He joined Redknapp’s side instead but rarely featured under Steve Cotterill and in all only played 383 league minutes. There was talk he tried to cancel his contract and rejoin Blackburn in January; he may end up back there, but as we may need a defensive midfielder (and one who can cover other positions) it wouldn’t surprise me if we ask.

Nedum Onuoha is leaving QPR after 6.5yrs of regular football. Former City centre-back, 6ft 2in, 31yo, who can also play either full-back role. Still the joint national record holder for boys’ U15 standing-start triple-jump.

Sunderland’s Billy Jones (31), formerly of Crewe and Preston, could be tempted back to the north-west – but do we need a right-back?

Byron Webster (31) - Millwall’s 6ft4in Yorkshire-born centre-back was key for their promotion but has missed most of this season with knee-knack. Neil Harris has said there will be discussions but Parky may wish to cock an ear.

Stephen Gleeson might leave Ipswich. 29yo Irish central midfielder, spent 4yrs at Birmingham, only 5ft9in and perhaps a trifle lightweight but might be a good passer in a five-man midfield.

Hull midfielder David Meyler (29 this month) has already said the club won’t renew his contract; Ipswich were linked a couple of months back.

Hull academy graduate Max Clark (22) has established himself at left-back this season but might move because he feels undervalued. He prefers central midfield and can also play centre-back. Forest are sniffing.

Or an alternative 22yo left-back is Harry Toffolo, Norwich graduate who joined Millwall in January on a six-monther. He’s played 13 times since.

Wolves’ powerful right-winger Jordan Graham (23) has seen his career stall lately - while his parent club has moved on a little, he still had enough promise for Fulham to borrow him last autumn, although again he didn’t get much game-time. The six-foot Brummie is at something of a crossroads, so it depends whether Parky fancies the risk-reward ratio.

[BWFC_Insane]

^ Pass on all of those bar one, unless we are again without any money.

One exception is Meyler. He could be a good addition.

[Prufrock]

I'd take Billy Jones (unless we can get Flanagan). Full back who can play both sides probably a bonus if we're still strapped. Frees things for elsewhere.

[boltonboris]

^ Pass on all of those bar one, unless we are again without any money.

One exception is Meyler. He could be a good addition.

He's a proper cvnt and a limited footballer. Puts himself about but we've got loads of them. We need some quality, not grit. He's just a like for like on Henry/Pratley

Besides, he'll end up wherever mickmac ends up.

[BWFC_Insane]

^ Pass on all of those bar one, unless we are again without any money.

One exception is Meyler. He could be a good addition.

He's a proper cvnt and a limited footballer. Puts himself about but we've got loads of them. We need some quality, not grit. He's just a like for like on Henry/Pratley

Besides, he'll end up wherever mickmac ends up.

I was thinking as a younger Henry replacement should we not keep him.

[TANGODANCER]

I bet Phil and Ken are reading this thread and taking notes....

Tango... At least I've stopped soley using the football manager database for my scouting. Much more sophisticated these days. Using the interweb...
Hey! Rumours got to start somewhere...

Scout on buddy, scout on. I was just joshing.

[bristol_Wanderer3]

Now the joyous haze of Sunday is thinning out a bit, it becomes clear that we are no closer to having a competitive Championship side than we were at this stage last season. If we re-signed everyone we wanted to from the current squad and no one else we would still finish bottom by about 25 points. We really need to sort out things out at the top quickly and start to try and drastically improve this team.

I would sign CYL. We need that quality, and he is as cheap as we could expect to find, even if he would demand say £15kpw in wages.

We obviously need 2-3 target men assuming Parky is staying. Even if he isn't we need strikers. Wyke, MacGennis, Sam Gallagher, Boyce, Nuhiu??

We have to seriously improve the central defence and central midfield areas too. Who we keep from the current squad will be interesting. I would keep Henry, but he shouldn't have to play every game like this season. Pratley seems to want to stay, presumably on a reduced contract from his current £14kpw. Should we keep him? Derik and Karacan will presumably leave. Wheater, Beevers and Dervite are all out of contract though Wheater has a year option which presumably will be exercised. Whatever happens we must have more pace at the back and more ability to pass the ball in midfield.

[BWFC_Insane]

Now the joyous haze of Sunday is thinning out a bit, it becomes clear that we are no closer to having a competitive Championship side than we were at this stage last season. If we re-signed everyone we wanted to from the current squad and no one else we would still finish bottom by about 25 points. We really need to sort out things out at the top quickly and start to try and drastically improve this team.

I would sign CYL. We need that quality, and he is as cheap as we could expect to find, even if he would demand say £15kpw in wages.

We obviously need 2-3 target men assuming Parky is staying. Even if he isn't we need strikers. Wyke, MacGennis, Sam Gallagher, Boyce, Nuhiu??

We have to seriously improve the central defence and central midfield areas too. Who we keep from the current squad will be interesting. I would keep Henry, but he shouldn't have to play every game like this season. Pratley seems to want to stay, presumably on a reduced contract from his current £14kpw. Should we keep him? Derik and Karacan will presumably leave. Wheater, Beevers and Dervite are all out of contract though Wheater has a year option which presumably will be exercised. Whatever happens we must have more pace at the back and more ability to pass the ball in midfield.

Lets be brutally honest, without some investment we are down next season.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Now the joyous haze of Sunday is thinning out a bit, it becomes clear that we are no closer to having a competitive Championship side than we were at this stage last season. If we re-signed everyone we wanted to from the current squad and no one else we would still finish bottom by about 25 points. We really need to sort out things out at the top quickly and start to try and drastically improve this team.

I would sign CYL. We need that quality, and he is as cheap as we could expect to find, even if he would demand say £15kpw in wages.

We obviously need 2-3 target men assuming Parky is staying. Even if he isn't we need strikers. Wyke, MacGennis, Sam Gallagher, Boyce, Nuhiu??

We have to seriously improve the central defence and central midfield areas too. Who we keep from the current squad will be interesting. I would keep Henry, but he shouldn't have to play every game like this season. Pratley seems to want to stay, presumably on a reduced contract from his current £14kpw. Should we keep him? Derik and Karacan will presumably leave. Wheater, Beevers and Dervite are all out of contract though Wheater has a year option which presumably will be exercised. Whatever happens we must have more pace at the back and more ability to pass the ball in midfield.

Lets be brutally honest, without some investment we are down next season.

Bloody hell, can we not enjoy a few days of summer before the doom and gloom predictions? Cheer up.

[BWFC_Insane]

Now the joyous haze of Sunday is thinning out a bit, it becomes clear that we are no closer to having a competitive Championship side than we were at this stage last season. If we re-signed everyone we wanted to from the current squad and no one else we would still finish bottom by about 25 points. We really need to sort out things out at the top quickly and start to try and drastically improve this team.

I would sign CYL. We need that quality, and he is as cheap as we could expect to find, even if he would demand say £15kpw in wages.

We obviously need 2-3 target men assuming Parky is staying. Even if he isn't we need strikers. Wyke, MacGennis, Sam Gallagher, Boyce, Nuhiu??

We have to seriously improve the central defence and central midfield areas too. Who we keep from the current squad will be interesting. I would keep Henry, but he shouldn't have to play every game like this season. Pratley seems to want to stay, presumably on a reduced contract from his current £14kpw. Should we keep him? Derik and Karacan will presumably leave. Wheater, Beevers and Dervite are all out of contract though Wheater has a year option which presumably will be exercised. Whatever happens we must have more pace at the back and more ability to pass the ball in midfield.

Lets be brutally honest, without some investment we are down next season.

Bloody hell, can we not enjoy a few days of summer before the doom and gloom predictions? Cheer up.

I am in a really good mood. But lets not mess around. We need SOME money to avoid relegation. We can't survive like we did last season as given Wigan are coming up bankrolled by new owners and Blackburn will have a budget larger than Burton's - both likely to be somewhat stronger than Burton and Barnsley.

And no premiership side coming down will be as bad as Sunderland. It will be tougher to stay up than this year and we need to strengthen. I'm not being negative. We've given ourselves a chance to do so. But Ken has been promising investment since he arrived. Time to deliver, now or never.

[Abdoulaye's Twin]

Of course we'll need investment to compete properly, but predictions of doom at this stage is nonsense - we don't know what will happen over the next few months. How about postponing the despair until we know there is no forthcoming investment?