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Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 15, 2018 11:22 am

Price structure has been announced.

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/no ... -campaign/

For reference, last year's are at https://www.bwfc.co.uk/siteassets/docum ... 7-2018.pdf and here's a comparison, as I can see on a quick check:

Lowest adult (North) up from £316 to £325
East/West Lower adult up from £405 to £417
East/West Upper adult up from £436 to £449
O75s up from £209 to £215
O65s up from £229 to £236 (North), £251 to £259 (E/W Upper), £271 to £279 (E/W Upper)
U18s up from £75 to £85
U12s stable at £63
Family 1+1 up from £365 to £376
Family 2+2 up from £730 to £752

All these are early-purchase prices (and you’ve got an extra six days this year, rather than June 10 it’s June 16 - just after the World Cup final)

To me – and I appreciate I'm not buying one - that doesn't seem like a ridiculous hike, usually a tenner or so. It's always a difficult line to toe, but to me it doesn't seem too bad. What do you think?

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue May 15, 2018 11:29 am

I'm more than happy. The admin fee rise of £5 seems a little steep, and seems like "interest" via the backdoor. But other than that, very reasonable.

By the way, your revised WC timetable will mean a lot of incredibly knackered players. For England to win it they'll have to play a lot of games in 2 days. Bit harsh that!

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue May 15, 2018 11:47 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:29 am
By the way, your revised WC timetable will mean a lot of incredibly knackered players. For England to win it they'll have to play a lot of games in 2 days. Bit harsh that!
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Harry Genshaw » Tue May 15, 2018 4:24 pm

Prices seem pretty reasonable to me. There'll be two in the Genshaw household before end of June
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by boltonboris » Tue May 15, 2018 5:55 pm

Already seen people moaning at the (maximum) £0.56p per game increase
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Bijou Bob » Wed May 16, 2018 9:39 am

ST prices seem reasonable, but as I now work a lot of Saturdays, I'm not sure it's worth me buying one. At £35 per game pay on the day, to stand in a 45 minute queue, they can GTF. I won't ever pay 35 quid to watch a championship game of football, so Radio Tango it is for me, presuming the premium service is still running in August.
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Hoboh » Thu May 17, 2018 7:33 am

Never had one since Megson and I doubt I will again so they could have gone down £20 For me.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by boltonboris » Thu May 17, 2018 11:52 am

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Bruce Rioja » Thu May 17, 2018 11:55 am

Absolutely fine by me.
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:52 am
"I'm not going back there until Megson's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Coyle's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Freedman's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Lennon's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Parkinson's gone"
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Mar » Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 11:22 am
Price structure has been announced.

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2018/may/no ... -campaign/

For reference, last year's are at https://www.bwfc.co.uk/siteassets/docum ... 7-2018.pdf and here's a comparison, as I can see on a quick check:

Lowest adult (North) up from £316 to £325
East/West Lower adult up from £405 to £417
East/West Upper adult up from £436 to £449
O75s up from £209 to £215
O65s up from £229 to £236 (North), £251 to £259 (E/W Upper), £271 to £279 (E/W Upper)
U18s up from £75 to £85
U12s stable at £63
Family 1+1 up from £365 to £376
Family 2+2 up from £730 to £752

All these are early-purchase prices (and you’ve got an extra six days this year, rather than June 10 it’s June 16 - just after the World Cup final)

To me – and I appreciate I'm not buying one - that doesn't seem like a ridiculous hike, usually a tenner or so. It's always a difficult line to toe, but to me it doesn't seem too bad. What do you think?

The increase seems a tad expensive but given what Parkinson's achieved and how we've had 2 seasons in a row that have culminated in on the pitch celebrations I don't think we can complain too much.

I would however like to see investment with those additional funds but hearing all this admin costs it just seems like we're not likely to see money back into the playing squad.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Sun May 20, 2018 2:29 pm

Mar wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 pm
The increase seems a tad expensive but given what Parkinson's achieved and how we've had 2 seasons in a row that have culminated in on the pitch celebrations I don't think we can complain too much.
Artistically, perhaps, but not economically. Unless you're under 18, it's around 3% (when calculated as a percentage of the new price, largely because I can't work out how to calculate it as a percentage of the old price). Over the last year the Consumer Prices Index has fluctuated between 2.3% and 3.1%.

2.77% Lowest adult (North) up from £316 to £325
2.88% East/West Lower adult up from £405 to £417
2.90% East/West Upper adult up from £436 to £449
2.79% O75s up from £209 to £215
2.97% O65s up from £229 to £236 (North)
3.09% O65s up from £251 to £259 (E/W Lower)
2.87% O65s up from £271 to £279 (E/W Upper)
11.76% U18s up from £75 to £85
0.00% U12s stable at £63
2.93% Family 1+1 up from £365 to £376
2.93% Family 2+2 up from £730 to £752

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Mar » Sun May 20, 2018 8:56 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:29 pm
Mar wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 pm
The increase seems a tad expensive but given what Parkinson's achieved and how we've had 2 seasons in a row that have culminated in on the pitch celebrations I don't think we can complain too much.
Artistically, perhaps, but not economically. Unless you're under 18, it's around 3% (when calculated as a percentage of the new price, largely because I can't work out how to calculate it as a percentage of the old price). Over the last year the Consumer Prices Index has fluctuated between 2.3% and 3.1%.

2.77% Lowest adult (North) up from £316 to £325
2.88% East/West Lower adult up from £405 to £417
2.90% East/West Upper adult up from £436 to £449
2.79% O75s up from £209 to £215
2.97% O65s up from £229 to £236 (North)
3.09% O65s up from £251 to £259 (E/W Lower)
2.87% O65s up from £271 to £279 (E/W Upper)
11.76% U18s up from £75 to £85
0.00% U12s stable at £63
2.93% Family 1+1 up from £365 to £376
2.93% Family 2+2 up from £730 to £752
I understand what you're saying with regards to price increases across the board but lets put this into some context, we're paying to support a club that has lowered its spending on the team, i'd imagine that being equivalent to subway using worse quality ingredients and expecting people to pay more for the privilege.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon May 21, 2018 9:01 am

Mar wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 8:56 pm
I understand what you're saying with regards to price increases across the board but lets put this into some context, we're paying to support a club that has lowered its spending on the team, i'd imagine that being equivalent to subway using worse quality ingredients and expecting people to pay more for the privilege.
Have you ever belonged to a forum discussing the continuing adventures of Subway? Worn a Subway shirt? Identified yourself as a Subway fan? If Subway goes shit(ter) I'll go use a different brand, but we both know there's different rules for football.

Again, I'm not saying people "should" buy STs, that's their own decision which is affected by a multitude of things, but these price increases aren't a very strong argument IMO. It's about the cost of three/four pints of lager, or three/four high-street coffees, over the season.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 21, 2018 9:12 am

Mar wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 8:56 pm
Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 2:29 pm
Mar wrote:
Sun May 20, 2018 12:26 pm
The increase seems a tad expensive but given what Parkinson's achieved and how we've had 2 seasons in a row that have culminated in on the pitch celebrations I don't think we can complain too much.
Artistically, perhaps, but not economically. Unless you're under 18, it's around 3% (when calculated as a percentage of the new price, largely because I can't work out how to calculate it as a percentage of the old price). Over the last year the Consumer Prices Index has fluctuated between 2.3% and 3.1%.

2.77% Lowest adult (North) up from £316 to £325
2.88% East/West Lower adult up from £405 to £417
2.90% East/West Upper adult up from £436 to £449
2.79% O75s up from £209 to £215
2.97% O65s up from £229 to £236 (North)
3.09% O65s up from £251 to £259 (E/W Lower)
2.87% O65s up from £271 to £279 (E/W Upper)
11.76% U18s up from £75 to £85
0.00% U12s stable at £63
2.93% Family 1+1 up from £365 to £376
2.93% Family 2+2 up from £730 to £752
I understand what you're saying with regards to price increases across the board but lets put this into some context, we're paying to support a club that has lowered its spending on the team, i'd imagine that being equivalent to subway using worse quality ingredients and expecting people to pay more for the privilege.
In theory we should spend more on the team this summer than the previous two seasons? If we don't we'll be back in league one.

So modest increases backed up with modest investments in the squad are fine by me.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 21, 2018 9:42 am

Ticket prices bear no relation to the quality on the pitch. I mean, Arsenal are a classic example! Just like the cost of living goes up each year, the cost of running the club, paying regular staff, electricity costs etc go up.

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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by BWFC_Insane » Mon May 21, 2018 9:44 am

Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:42 am
Ticket prices bear no relation to the quality on the pitch. I mean, Arsenal are a classic example! Just like the cost of living goes up each year, the cost of running the club, paying regular staff, electricity costs etc go up.
Indeed. But I guess you could argue that having secured championship status a small rise is fair enough on the past two years.

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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Mon May 21, 2018 11:34 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:44 am
Abdoulaye's Twin wrote:
Mon May 21, 2018 9:42 am
Ticket prices bear no relation to the quality on the pitch. I mean, Arsenal are a classic example! Just like the cost of living goes up each year, the cost of running the club, paying regular staff, electricity costs etc go up.
Indeed. But I guess you could argue that having secured championship status a small rise is fair enough on the past two years.
I think a small annual rise each year along the lines of inflation is fair enough. Whilst I hope businesses pay in excess of minimum wage, the fact the minimum wage has been increasing in larger increments in recent years has made life difficult for smaller businesses with small bank accounts.

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon May 21, 2018 8:45 pm

I just read Kenny's log-in. In it he states that Lifeline members receive a 5% discount against the price of their season ticket. I didn't know this. Is the discount something I have to apply for (I auto-renew my ST) or do they factor it in? Anyone?
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Re: Season Tickets 18/19

Post by Hoboh » Mon May 21, 2018 10:53 pm

boltonboris wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 11:52 am
"I'm not going back there until Megson's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Coyle's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Freedman's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Lennon's gone"
"I'm not going back there until Parkinson's gone"
I was tempted at first when Coyle took over but something turned up that stopped me.

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