Onwards and Downwards: 2020 transfer speculation thread.

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Re: Onwards and Downwards: 2020 transfer speculation thread.

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:01 am

LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:56 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:31 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:10 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:58 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:50 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:41 am
Farewell to oztumer. Appeal won, contract terminated. And rightly so if we're being honest about it. Unpaid and unplayed. Good luck to him.
Good luck? I hope he receives a career ending tackle - have zero time, zero time for anyone not willing to roll their sleeves up and fight for this football club.

That includes fans who seem more interested in talking it down too.

One of the worst players I've seen wear a BWFC shirt. Dreadful.
Unpaid for 5 months and unrated by a manager still in place? Any player with options elsewhere not trying to get out must be mad.

Read back what you just wrote and hang your head in shame you stupid, pathetic, tantrum throwing c*nt.
I support BWFC. Why on earth would I have any time for anyone who walks out? Regardless of the justifications. As a fan I can't walk out. He's gone. He was shite whilst he was here. We have staff who haven't been paid for months still here working - those are heroes to me. They are doing what they can to keep this club going.

Those that go - mean nothing to me at all. Why on earth would they?
I couldn't care less about him now either. However I see why he's done it. And I don't wish a career ending injury on him. And that doesn't make me any less of a fan than you, to address the part of your post after wishing harm upon a young footballer who has been extremely shabbily treated.
I try not to resort to abuse but I stand by my comments.
He's 28. And his actions mean that 17/18 year olds are being asked to play in games they aren't really ready for and risk injury. We've already seen a couple of these young lads get injured having to play 2 games in two days. Is that all his fault? No. But again I have no time for him. As for "shabbily treated" no he hasn't. He's been at a club that has been shabbily treated where everyone is suffering. Everyone. No more so than the supporters. The players who have all been paid at least some of what they owe are employees of an insolvent business. In the real world - they'd probably have received nothing at all.

If we currently sat with a billionaire owner refusing to pay them out of spite or even a Steve Dale situation I'd get it, but we're in administration - players are being paid what they can be and ultimately that isn't shabby treatment it is just life.
If you don't think players have been poorly treated you're just a stubborn fool and there is literally no point debating it with you.
Shabby treatment is when its by choice. "I'm sorry we can only pay you X because it all the business has" is not shabby treatment. If you think it is then you've clearly never been in a similar position. Its very unfortunate and not good for many people who are owed money - players are one of the last in my particular sympathies. I had more time for players when Anderson was dicking around - points needed making. But when the business that employs you is in administration - it is a different situation entirely.

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Re: Onwards and Downwards: 2020 transfer speculation thread.

Post by jimbo » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:07 am

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:01 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:56 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:31 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:21 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:10 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:58 am
BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:50 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:41 am
Farewell to oztumer. Appeal won, contract terminated. And rightly so if we're being honest about it. Unpaid and unplayed. Good luck to him.
Good luck? I hope he receives a career ending tackle - have zero time, zero time for anyone not willing to roll their sleeves up and fight for this football club.

That includes fans who seem more interested in talking it down too.

One of the worst players I've seen wear a BWFC shirt. Dreadful.
Unpaid for 5 months and unrated by a manager still in place? Any player with options elsewhere not trying to get out must be mad.

Read back what you just wrote and hang your head in shame you stupid, pathetic, tantrum throwing c*nt.
I support BWFC. Why on earth would I have any time for anyone who walks out? Regardless of the justifications. As a fan I can't walk out. He's gone. He was shite whilst he was here. We have staff who haven't been paid for months still here working - those are heroes to me. They are doing what they can to keep this club going.

Those that go - mean nothing to me at all. Why on earth would they?
I couldn't care less about him now either. However I see why he's done it. And I don't wish a career ending injury on him. And that doesn't make me any less of a fan than you, to address the part of your post after wishing harm upon a young footballer who has been extremely shabbily treated.
I try not to resort to abuse but I stand by my comments.
He's 28. And his actions mean that 17/18 year olds are being asked to play in games they aren't really ready for and risk injury. We've already seen a couple of these young lads get injured having to play 2 games in two days. Is that all his fault? No. But again I have no time for him. As for "shabbily treated" no he hasn't. He's been at a club that has been shabbily treated where everyone is suffering. Everyone. No more so than the supporters. The players who have all been paid at least some of what they owe are employees of an insolvent business. In the real world - they'd probably have received nothing at all.

If we currently sat with a billionaire owner refusing to pay them out of spite or even a Steve Dale situation I'd get it, but we're in administration - players are being paid what they can be and ultimately that isn't shabby treatment it is just life.
If you don't think players have been poorly treated you're just a stubborn fool and there is literally no point debating it with you.
Shabby treatment is when its by choice. "I'm sorry we can only pay you X because it all the business has" is not shabby treatment. If you think it is then you've clearly never been in a similar position. Its very unfortunate and not good for many people who are owed money - players are one of the last in my particular sympathies. I had more time for players when Anderson was dicking around - points needed making. But when the business that employs you is in administration - it is a different situation entirely.
When you were in the similar situation, if another employer had come along offering equal or better terms and possibly progressing your career, would you have turned them down out of loyalty? I wouldn’t. I’d feel incredibly sorry for those left behind who might not get that opportunity but I’d be happy to at least get myself sorted.

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:20 am

jimbo wrote:
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When you were in the similar situation, if another employer had come along offering equal or better terms and possibly progressing your career, would you have turned them down out of loyalty? I wouldn’t. I’d feel incredibly sorry for those left behind who might not get that opportunity but I’d be happy to at least get myself sorted.
I took a voluntary pay cut and traveled out of my own money forgoing expenses. Would I have done that for other businesses? Depends on the situation.

And yes football is just a business to players they have no passion at all for the clubs. I get that. Doesn't mean as fans that is the case and nor should it be. I'm looking for someone to show the passion for the club I have. The kids and coaching staff seem to be doing that right now and I doff my cap to them.

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Post by Harry Genshaw » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:30 am

Sad news this and means potentially the others will be leaving shortly too?

Shit players don't score as many goals as he did over his last 2 seasons at Walsall. We certainly never saw anything like a decent player though. Was it him, the coach, the next level up or a combination of the three?

I'd take issue with anyone who thought he hadn't been shabbily treated or who wished injury on him but I can't be arsed.

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Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:32 am

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Sorry with BWFCI on this.

Not as far as a career ending challenge but he can do one. Doesn't want to be here so off you trott. Thanks but no thanks.

Another asset lost due to the KA era.
Mmmm that's a tad generous. He's gone, goodbye, we move on at least that's some cash saved.

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Post by LeverEnd » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:34 am

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:30 am
Sad news this and means potentially the others will be leaving shortly too?

Shit players don't score as many goals as he did over his last 2 seasons at Walsall. We certainly never saw anything like a decent player though. Was it him, the coach, the next level up or a combination of the three?

I'd take issue with anyone who thought he hadn't been shabbily treated or who wished injury on him but I can't be arsed.

We move on
Sorry to break it to you HG but apparently that means despite the miles you've travelled recently you're doing the club down and not a real fan. You need some more hate coursing through your veins!
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Post by Hoboh » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:36 am

LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:34 am
Harry Genshaw wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:30 am
Sad news this and means potentially the others will be leaving shortly too?

Shit players don't score as many goals as he did over his last 2 seasons at Walsall. We certainly never saw anything like a decent player though. Was it him, the coach, the next level up or a combination of the three?

I'd take issue with anyone who thought he hadn't been shabbily treated or who wished injury on him but I can't be arsed.

We move on
Sorry to break it to you HG but apparently that means despite the miles you've travelled recently you're doing the club down and not a real fan. You need some more hate coursing through your veins!
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Post by Prufrock » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:42 am

All his goals are 35 yarders 2 yards inside the post. Because the standard of goalkeeping in league 1 is atrocious. Otherwise all he does is play blind flicks around the corner. Comes off 1 in 10 and then people think he's got skillz. The rest of the midfield won't be sad to see him go, I'm sure.
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Post by Jugs » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:44 am

I'm mostly with Insane on this one. I wouldn't wish him a career-ending injury, but he can do one. After the heroics of the Coventry game, we can't waste time on players who have no passion or fight. feck em

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Post by officer_dibble » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:53 am

I wonder if the league will let us register some players now we’ve lost a couple. Hobbs and another midfielder (Conway?) or a forward would be welcome now!

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Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:08 pm

The real issue here is precedent I fear. The other players who have put forward an argument to have their contracts terminated, will surely not be told that their situation is different. That could leave us with no senior players by the end of the week. I don't blame any of them for one minute. We are fans, they are employees. Not a single one of us on here, approached by an employer willing to pay us a life changing signing on fee plus secure and higher wages, would turn that down I suspect.

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:08 pm

Shame. I’d hoped he would do well for my team. Now I’m relying on a teenager.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Aug 15, 2019 1:08 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:50 am
LeverEnd wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2019 9:41 am
Farewell to oztumer. Appeal won, contract terminated. And rightly so if we're being honest about it. Unpaid and unplayed. Good luck to him.
Good luck? I hope he receives a career ending tackle - have zero time, zero time for anyone not willing to roll their sleeves up and fight for this football club.

That includes fans who seem more interested in talking it down too.

One of the worst players I've seen wear a BWFC shirt. Dreadful.
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Post by irie Cee Bee » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:34 pm

Oz never impressed but I struggle to see how even a JJ Ochocha would fit in a Parkinson side. Could never understand why he signed him.

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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Thu Aug 15, 2019 2:42 pm

irie Cee Bee wrote:
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Oz never impressed but I struggle to see how even a JJ Ochocha would fit in a Parkinson side. Could never understand why he signed him.
Trouble is, nobody properly fits into a Parkinson side. Everybody to some extent is a square peg, and all he can see are static round holes. He hammers and hammers any nearly round peg he can find until he takes all the remaining edges off to try and slot them in.
But, no footballer is any good without edge...
And as you say, the ones who don't fit, like Oztumer, and are harder to hammer in, he just chucks away. So why buy a square peg in the first place? God only knows...
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Post by DJBlu » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:30 am

The injured dwarf has miraculously overcome his knee injury that was keeping him out for a month and had signed for Charlton. He is available for selection tomorrow.

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Post by Enoch » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:34 am

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The injured dwarf has miraculously overcome his knee injury that was keeping him out for a month and had signed for Charlton. He is available for selection tomorrow.

Smart move.

Bowyer likes a bit of flair.

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Post by Bertie Wooster » Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:54 am

DJBlu wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:30 am
The injured dwarf has miraculously overcome his knee injury that was keeping him out for a month and had signed for Charlton. He is available for selection tomorrow.
I can't recall any direct quotes from BWFC management (Parkinson etc) last week, but is anyone aware of any related comments covering up this 'so called' Oztumer injury ?, probably knowing that he was off to Charlton for no fee.

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Post by nicholaldo » Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:24 pm

DJBlu wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:30 am
The injured dwarf has miraculously overcome his knee injury that was keeping him out for a month and had signed for Charlton. He is available for selection tomorrow.

I think there's a fair chance "He is available to play for the Addicks immediately" refers to his registration, not his injury status.

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Post by Jugs » Fri Aug 16, 2019 6:04 pm

It'll be interesting to see what Charlton can get out of him at that level. I do think he was under-used by Parky.

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