COVID-19/20 season

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by nicholaldo » Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 pm

Enoch wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:36 pm
I note that according to DSb, a man I don't believe is given to deliberately publishing fake news, we have six players contracted beyond June 2020.

Six players, and no manager.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Enoch » Sun Apr 12, 2020 2:48 pm

nicholaldo wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:59 pm
Enoch wrote:
Sat Apr 11, 2020 6:36 pm
I note that according to DSb, a man I don't believe is given to deliberately publishing fake news, we have six players contracted beyond June 2020.

Six players, and no manager.

No doubt Jimmy Phillips is contracted 'til the end of time.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Enoch » Sun Apr 12, 2020 7:39 pm

TonyDomingos wrote:
Sun Apr 12, 2020 1:29 pm
We'll smash the Horwich & District 5-a-side league next season.

Domingos, the eternal optimist.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by TonyDomingos » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:09 am

6 June mooted as a possible date for the season to resume. Completing the outstanding games, including the play-offs (spoiler: we miss out), within 56 days takes us to 31 July.
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Re: COVID-19/20 season

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by officer_dibble » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:47 pm

My take on this one is that he doesn’t fit the Brentford style recruitment drive (and binning off the youth teams). I think things have changed since Kenton and the Tobias chap have got on board.

Comments to that article are interesting.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Athertonian » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:59 am

TonyDomingos wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:09 am
6 June mooted as a possible date for the season to resume. Completing the outstanding games, including the play-offs (spoiler: we miss out), within 56 days takes us to 31 July.
My personal opinion is this season will resume with just the play offs and the current positions being accepted as final. This providing there is time to do so.
I can't see the EFL calling the season void, that would give us another crack at Div 1 next term.
There is very little time to continue and complete the season, too many games to play in such short time.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by TonyDomingos » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:12 pm

This was issued earlier today. A very long-winded way of saying nothing.

An open letter to EFL supporters from EFL Chair, Rick Parry.

Dear supporter,

The COVID-19 pandemic has, quite clearly, brought about challenges which extend beyond the game we all love, and led to an unprecedented and testing situation for everyone.

In these circumstances, open and honest communication is more important than ever, and it is with this in mind that I am writing directly to supporters of every EFL Club today on the 132nd anniversary of the foundation of the Football League.

I want to start by offering my condolences to those who have lost loved ones to this terrible disease.

I would also like to acknowledge once again the incredible work being carried out by key workers, including front-line NHS staff and carers, at this difficult time.

Their collective sacrifice for the health and wellbeing of others is something to be truly proud of, and one which – on behalf of the EFL – I would like to sincerely thank them for.

It is often said that football is like a family, and we have seen that many of those undertaking vital work are fans of EFL Clubs.

From Bristol to Bolton and Colchester to Carlisle, supporters across the country are among the heroes
making a positive impact, and it has been heartening to see and hear the stories of people coming together at such a crucial time.

Our Clubs are also rising to the challenge and are carrying out important work in their local communities.

We know that eight in 10 people in England and Wales live within a 15-mile radius of an EFL club, so whether it’s offering practical, emotional or physical support, the help football clubs are providing should not be underestimated.

It is, of course, by continuing to adhere to Government guidelines that we can all play our part in the national effort against coronavirus and so I’d also like to take this opportunity to urge you all to stay at home. In doing so, you will save lives.

When it comes to footballing matters, I understand the desire among fans for definitive answers, particularly around the conclusion of 2019/20 campaign.

As I am sure you will appreciate, the situation presents significant operational and financial challenges, including the logistics of Clubs returning to full operational status, the practicalities of
playing football behind closed doors, and the possible knock-on effects for the 2020/21 campaign.

Please be assured that we are working hard on these and will update you as soon as we can once decisions have been made.

To give you an honest assessment of the current situation; the point at which you will be able to attend games again remains unclear. Please be assured, however, that we are going to welcome you back to stadiums as soon as it is safe to do so.

Your contribution to the matchday experience and atmospheres created in stadia up and down the
country is something we should never take for granted.

Unfortunately, I cannot tell you today when football will resume, though whenever we do return, matches are likely to be played without crowds.

And whilst we are unfortunately without the presence of the hundreds of thousands of supporters who pass through EFL turnstiles each week, we will endeavour to bring live football direct into your homes once it returns.

Plans are continuing to be worked up for all games to be broadcast either via our broadcast partners, iFollow or equivalent Club streaming services. We will update you on this once we know when matches will recommence.

The contribution to football’s finances made by match-going supporters should not be underestimated.

It is critical to the business model of league football. Perhaps the biggest challenge right now is not knowing when we will be  able to reintroduce football in front of crowds.

We can only hope that the situation develops in such a way that we will be able to do with the shortest possible break.

With or without spectators, delivering a successful conclusion to the 2019/20 season remains our goal to ensure the integrity of our competitions. This, of course, means that a number of factors – including when, where and within what timeframe fixtures will be played – must be given careful consideration in line with Government advice.

Similar factors must also be taken into account when agreeing an approach towards player training and testing, not least the appropriate level of medical resource and creation of an effective and efficient medical matchday protocol.

As we’ve previously stated, the health and wellbeing of our Clubs, their players and staff, and you – the fans – remains our first priority, and so you can appreciate that we want to give thorough and rigorous thought to these matters.

From the outset, we have committed to regular dialogue with each of these groups, as well as the Government, in order to tackle the challenges we face as effectively as possible.

As well as taking into account the current climate in terms of public opinion, including those views of fans, we are regularly taking ideas and suggestions from our Clubs.

Aside from two catastrophic World Wars, this pandemic is arguably the most challenging issue to have affected football since the League was founded 132 years ago.

Our Clubs have been left with significant outgoings while facing a sudden loss of income. With this in mind, I’m sure you will be aware of talk about wages and deferrals.

Good progress is being made in these areas, with a view to this assisting in delivering medium to long-term solutions that protect our game for years to come.

As I said when I arrived, the EFL and its Clubs matter to many people, but most of all to the supporters.

It is natural, at this stage, that you will have many questions, and we will endeavour to continue to provide answers and solutions, but we must do so with your health – as well as that of the entire nation - in mind.

I thank you for your patience so far and ask for more of the same; this is a serious situation which is changing by the day, and one which requires informed and considered decisions.

The next few weeks will bring more clarity when it comes to our operational plans and, as always, we’ll look to maintain regular communication.

One thing we can be sure of is that football, and normality, will return, and will so do more quickly if we remain united.

For now, thank you for your ongoing support and, please, stay safe.

Yours sincerely,

Rick Parry
EFL Chairman
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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:52 pm

Its a long winded way of saying "the integrity of the EFL and more importantly the premier league takes priority over everything else and screw the clubs who will go up the spout thanks to our complete ineffectiveness and lack of connectivity with the real world. Oh and did you hear about those people dying? Terrible. Someone should do something. But FFS we need to play football because otherwise my fat pay cheque is in question. Someone please think of the game."

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Bertie Wooster » Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:08 pm

Surely this is relatively easy for BWFC, furlough the players and then don't renew any contracts that are due to expire on 30th June (including the manager & assistant manager), then start again from scratch whenever this season starts back up or next season starts. Its not as if we have any decent players who's contracts expire that we need to keep is it ?

There is absolutely no incentive or reason that I can see for BWFC to extend any contracts that expire on 30th June. I would have thought that Tobias & Peter Kenyon's only real focus now would be who will be the manager from 1st July and a list of players who we could try and recruit for whenever next season starts.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:26 pm

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:08 pm
Surely this is relatively easy for BWFC, furlough the players and then don't renew any contracts that are due to expire on 30th June (including the manager & assistant manager), then start again from scratch whenever this season starts back up or next season starts. Its not as if we have any decent players who's contracts expire that we need to keep is it ?

There is absolutely no incentive or reason that I can see for BWFC to extend any contracts that expire on 30th June. I would have thought that Tobias & Peter Kenyon's only real focus now would be who will be the manager from 1st July and a list of players who we could try and recruit for whenever next season starts.
The EFL want teams to keep players for season completion. And can you furlough players without their agreement?

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by officer_dibble » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:19 pm

If they don’t agree then what? Can they cancel their contracts? Big gamble for quite a few of them...surely it’s 80% till June or nowt? Genuine questions not disparaging remarks.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by nicholaldo » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:06 am

Bertie Wooster wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 12:08 pm
Surely this is relatively easy for BWFC, furlough the players and then don't renew any contracts that are due to expire on 30th June (including the manager & assistant manager), then start again from scratch whenever this season starts back up or next season starts. Its not as if we have any decent players who's contracts expire that we need to keep is it ?

There is absolutely no incentive or reason that I can see for BWFC to extend any contracts that expire on 30th June. I would have thought that Tobias & Peter Kenyon's only real focus now would be who will be the manager from 1st July and a list of players who we could try and recruit for whenever next season starts.

Crawford and Darcy, at a minimum. And add Jason Lowe to that. We perhaps don't absolutely "need" to keep them, and I'm almost certain one of them in particular will leave, but they're players we'd surely like to keep hold of if we can.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Prufrock » Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:31 am

officer_dibble wrote:
Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:19 pm
If they don’t agree then what? Can they cancel their contracts? Big gamble for quite a few of them...surely it’s 80% till June or nowt? Genuine questions not disparaging remarks.
Broadly agree though I think the 80% is capped at £2.5k a month. All the senior pros will be in s lot more than that. But can't see any of them getting a new contract elsewhere in the meantime.

Interesting to see what that means football creditor wise.
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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:14 pm

Southend have done it today with their big earners to predictable PFA outrage. I'll be surprised if others dont follow soon.
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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Harry Genshaw » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:22 pm

Harry Genshaw wrote:
Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:14 pm
Southend have done it today with their big earners to predictable PFA outrage. I'll be surprised if others dont follow soon.
Oldham too now, according to GMR.
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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Worthy4England » Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:27 pm

I'm quite surprised we haven't to be honest...(not a reflection on the people running the Club, just a general observation)...

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by Athertonian » Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:30 pm

Looks like the French have cancelled their season yet, the Premier league seems hell bent on completing theirs. There is such little time to complete all those games plus, players will be out of contract. The best the Prem and EFL can do is declare this season void. There will be disappointments amongst clubs but seems the only way this could end.

As for winners and losers, Bolton would be grateful for another bash at this league but most probably with another 12 point deduction.

Last pre season was a shambles so hopefully a void will be announced sooner than later. This way we can hopefully have the time for recruitment and play a few friendlies, covid pending.

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Re: COVID-19/20 season

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:40 am

Athertonian wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 5:30 pm
Looks like the French have cancelled their season yet, the Premier league seems hell bent on completing theirs. There is such little time to complete all those games plus, players will be out of contract. The best the Prem and EFL can do is declare this season void. There will be disappointments amongst clubs but seems the only way this could end.

As for winners and losers, Bolton would be grateful for another bash at this league but most probably with another 12 point deduction.

Last pre season was a shambles so hopefully a void will be announced sooner than later. This way we can hopefully have the time for recruitment and play a few friendlies, covid pending.
The reason they won't null and void is because a number of clubs will sue them for damages. Football is eating itself as ever.

They don't care about leagues one or two, or society in general. Just about the money at the top of the game.

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