Plymouth match
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The difference up top between baka and Doyle has been noticeable, both off and on the ball.DJBlu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:36 pmUnacceptable display by all of them.
Brockbank feeling sorry for himself. Baptiste not match fit. Sheehan?
Better hope Doyle can start scoring because Baka isn't capable of holding the line on this showing.
Wouldn't say it's worth risking Sarce as this game is lost.
Isgrove took 35 minutes to wake up.
So easy for teams. Start quickly and get the early goals from set pieces.
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He needs to do what he did last Christmas and go back to basics very, very fast, or this is going to turn into a relegation battle very quickly. Dapo is isolated, we don’t look like scoring, and concede alarmingly easily.
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Well. As with most games this season, we saw lots of attacking intent, shots off target, shots on target and goals. Exciting. Just none of it was us. Can someone please tell them how to fcking defend. Content download 101.
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Baka’s been abysmal hasn’t he? Doyle’s smart running and link up play sorely missing tonight.KeyserSoze wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:39 pmThe difference up top between baka and Doyle has been noticeable, both off and on the ball.DJBlu wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:36 pmUnacceptable display by all of them.
Brockbank feeling sorry for himself. Baptiste not match fit. Sheehan?
Better hope Doyle can start scoring because Baka isn't capable of holding the line on this showing.
Wouldn't say it's worth risking Sarce as this game is lost.
Isgrove took 35 minutes to wake up.
So easy for teams. Start quickly and get the early goals from set pieces.
Our failure to get in another striker over summer is really starting to hurt us. (I appreciate it’s the hardest position to recruit for though)
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I mean for me the January shopping list is getting longer and longer… two full backs, an MJ clone and a striker…
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This side bears no resemblance to the side that outplayed Sunderland and Wednesday in previous away games. 1 to 11 not turned up yet.
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Passing it sideways along the back line because you've taken a controlling touch and been closed down will always 'enhance' that particular stat.
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I'll say it again we are so predictable to play against, teams in League 1 have worked us out - basically stop Dapo playing and you'll win, we move the ball about so slowly - there is absolutely no tempo or urgency by anyone, its all so ponderous and ineffective and we have no goal threat, we don't even press like they did earlier in the season.
It's a bloody good job that we had a good start to the season with the promotion bounce, getting decent points on the table as without it and with still lots of games to go before the Jan window we could have been in a relegation fight, these last two games we have looked like a very poor side, a relegation side.
Brommers point about the failure to get another striker in is spot on & was obvious to most (regardless of BWFCI asking who could we have brought in), but you could say the same about getting more leaders in, getting in players with pace, but for me more importantly was not getting in players with more physicality, there is only Williams in midfield who will put himself about.
It's a bloody good job that we had a good start to the season with the promotion bounce, getting decent points on the table as without it and with still lots of games to go before the Jan window we could have been in a relegation fight, these last two games we have looked like a very poor side, a relegation side.
Brommers point about the failure to get another striker in is spot on & was obvious to most (regardless of BWFCI asking who could we have brought in), but you could say the same about getting more leaders in, getting in players with pace, but for me more importantly was not getting in players with more physicality, there is only Williams in midfield who will put himself about.
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Feels like Dapos getting a rough deal from refs every week at mo
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According to BWFCI who must know SB & FV personally - we won't spend any money on quality players, they won't spend more money on higher wages as along with Evatt they want to do it on the cheap & continue to pay peanuts.officer_dibble wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:45 pmI mean for me the January shopping list is getting longer and longer… two full backs, an MJ clone and a striker…
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We got strikers in Kacha and Baka. And both are far worse than Doyle.Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:53 pmI'll say it again we are so predictable to play against, teams in League 1 have worked us out - basically stop Dapo playing and you'll win, we move the ball about so slowly - there is absolutely no tempo or urgency by anyone, its all so ponderous and ineffective and we have no goal threat, we don't even press like they did earlier in the season.
It's a bloody good job that we had a good start to the season with the promotion bounce, getting decent points on the table as without it and with still lots of games to go before the Jan window we could have been in a relegation fight, these last two games we have looked like a very poor side, a relegation side.
Brommers point about the failure to get another striker in is spot on & was obvious to most (regardless of BWFCI asking who could we have brought in), but you could say the same about getting more leaders in, getting in players with pace, but for me more importantly was not getting in players with more physicality, there is only Williams in midfield who will put himself about.
Agree on the physicality but you can keep saying bring a striker in but we have and they aren’t as good as Doyle who let’s be honest has a better record than most at this level and we do not give him close to enough service.
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Gordon and Brockbank both stopping to pass back with space in front?
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Gordon fell over the ball
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Can only blame Evatt for his complete inability to organise us sort out set pieces and realise you have to be able to sometimes grind out results.
His failings are our failings. Young manager and he needs to learn. But needs to do so fast. Saying we are the best team in the league has the ring of Coyle and right now this feels a bit like the collapse of Coyles credibility as a manager.
His failings are our failings. Young manager and he needs to learn. But needs to do so fast. Saying we are the best team in the league has the ring of Coyle and right now this feels a bit like the collapse of Coyles credibility as a manager.
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Yep, you must be right and clearly they've got shit loads of dosh hanging around, but they are all just being arseholes and trying to get us into the Premiership on a shoestring 'cos its a bit of a laugh innit?Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:56 pm
According to BWFCI who must know SB & FV personally - we won't spend any money on quality players, they won't spend more money on higher wages as along with Evatt they want to do it on the cheap & continue to pay peanuts.
Or, alternatively - and I suspect more realistically - maybe, just maybe, after taking over a failing club that was about to go pop, getting it on an even keel & somehow achieving promotion, they actually haven't got any cash to spend, so have no option but to pay "peanuts" and "do it on the cheap"? Just a thought.............
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Oh feck off baka
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Bakayoko has given up even the pretence that he can be bothered….
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Indeed. And we lost 3M in last accounts. Not sure where people think the money is coming from. Borrowing presumably. Cos that’s worked well for us. We don’t have a sugar daddy happy to spend millions and never see it back.dave the minion wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:01 pmYep, you must be right and clearly they've got shit loads of dosh hanging around, but they are all just being arseholes and trying to get us into the Premiership on a shoestring 'cos its a bit of a laugh innit?Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:56 pm
According to BWFCI who must know SB & FV personally - we won't spend any money on quality players, they won't spend more money on higher wages as along with Evatt they want to do it on the cheap & continue to pay peanuts.
Or, alternatively - and I suspect more realistically - maybe, just maybe, after taking over a failing club that was about to go pop, getting it on an even keel & somehow achieving promotion, they actually haven't got any cash to spend, so have no option but to pay "peanuts" and "do it on the cheap"? Just a thought.............
Re: Plymouth match
Bertie Wooster wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:53 pmI'll say it again we are so predictable to play against, teams in League 1 have worked us out - basically stop Dapo playing and you'll win, we move the ball about so slowly - there is absolutely no tempo or urgency by anyone, its all so ponderous and ineffective and we have no goal threat, we don't even press like they did earlier in the season.
It's a bloody good job that we had a good start to the season with the promotion bounce, getting decent points on the table as without it and with still lots of games to go before the Jan window we could have been in a relegation fight, these last two games we have looked like a very poor side, a relegation side.
Brommers point about the failure to get another striker in is spot on & was obvious to most (regardless of BWFCI asking who could we have brought in), but you could say the same about getting more leaders in, getting in players with pace, but for me more importantly was not getting in players with more physicality, there is only Williams in midfield who will put himself about.
Seems to go from the extremes. We're either really good or really bad. Right now the impression is we're really bad but in reality I suspect there's a tempo and mentality thing that needs sorting. We've not become an instantly bad team overnight.
It's a terribly long way to travel to get to Plymouth. I can't imagine it being a nice state of affairs having to be on the coach reflecting on that Wigan defeat. The Sheffield Wednesday was a hard result to take and our heads have gone down ever since.
We've played Wednesday (sat in 9th), Wigan (4th) and now Plymouth (top of the league). A newly promoted team should be struggling against these sorts of teams.
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