Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
I’m very unconvinced about signing a keeper with injury issues then.
It’s a key position. Not one to mess about with.
It’s a key position. Not one to mess about with.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
Sounds like one we have taken a gamble on - you would want a steadier back up, or at least one with more football than Coleman as well. Hope he’s had a thorough medical!!
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
Given that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
Welcome Baxter. I hope you do well here. I guess Evatt will now have a keeper on the bench given the comments here about Baxter's injury problems.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
I don't think it'll force Evatt into putting a keeper on the bench. His injuries tend to be wear and tear, rather than impact. He plays injured until the point where he needs surgery, rather than coming off injured during games.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
So injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal….GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:14 pmGiven that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
In fairness, we could sign Manuel Neuer and you'd complain about it. Not convinced we're getting anyone better on a free transfer this summer, mate...BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:17 pmSo injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal….GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:14 pmGiven that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
It does sound a bit weird, but I reckon I'll see what he can do before shouting "wrong 'un"
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
You'll rarely get a Premier League potential 'keeper showing up in League One at 24 without bringing baggage with him.
I have my concerns whenever we sign a player with injury issues, but if we're going to sign one it might as be one who "might" be capable of playing at the top level.
I have my concerns whenever we sign a player with injury issues, but if we're going to sign one it might as be one who "might" be capable of playing at the top level.
Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
Kieran Lee worked out alright for us.
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I know nowt about him. I’ve said that already. Others have reported he’s had bad injuries and the report above doesn’t sound that encouraging.truewhite15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:30 pmIn fairness, we could sign Manuel Neuer and you'd complain about it. Not convinced we're getting anyone better on a free transfer this summer, mate...BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:17 pmSo injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal….GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:14 pmGiven that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
I will wait and judge during the season cos like I say I wouldn’t know him from Adam.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
I'm glad to hear you say that, because somebody looking at this conversation objectively might think that "So injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal…." was the phrase of someone filled with unassailable doubt. As opposed to someone who was keeping an open mind.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:58 pmI know nowt about him. I’ve said that already. Others have reported he’s had bad injuries and the report above doesn’t sound that encouraging.truewhite15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:30 pmIn fairness, we could sign Manuel Neuer and you'd complain about it. Not convinced we're getting anyone better on a free transfer this summer, mate...BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:17 pmSo injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal….GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:14 pmGiven that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
I will wait and judge during the season cos like I say I wouldn’t know him from Adam.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
That’s only what others reported.truewhite15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 9:26 pmI'm glad to hear you say that, because somebody looking at this conversation objectively might think that "So injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal…." was the phrase of someone filled with unassailable doubt. As opposed to someone who was keeping an open mind.BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:58 pmI know nowt about him. I’ve said that already. Others have reported he’s had bad injuries and the report above doesn’t sound that encouraging.truewhite15 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:30 pmIn fairness, we could sign Manuel Neuer and you'd complain about it. Not convinced we're getting anyone better on a free transfer this summer, mate...BWFC_Insane wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 8:17 pmSo injury prone and full of issues. Sounds ideal….GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 7:14 pmGiven that he's here now, we should probably discuss his general game and not just his injuries.
Superb reflex stopper, but has a tendency to parry the ball back into play. That can probably be coached out of him by Gilks.
Wasn't great with his feet early on, but from watching recent footage that looks improved - though it's still a weakness. Reading of available passes is a lot better than it was.
Used to be fairly commanding, but seems to have lost the desire to come through crowds to claim. That could be because he was carrying the ankle injury that then needed surgery.
Very good at picking options on the counter and throws well.
He's very, very similar to Jussi. He also has that issue Jussi had where he starts to drop too early and can concede over his head. I think what he's doing is setting himself to spring low to either side, but it opens up the goal too much and again will need coaching out of him. It's something that's true of a number of keepers Hilario has coached and it may be that they have data that shows it's beneficial, so could just be an "I don't like it" issue on my part, rather than an actual weakness.
Were it not for his injuries I'd be a very happy camper. He's far too good for League One. The injuries are, of course, why he's here slumming it at this level.
Whoever is #2 (and it looks like being out giant local friend) will probably play plenty of football, so we need to assess them as though they are coming in as #1.
I will wait and judge during the season cos like I say I wouldn’t know him from Adam.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
91 appearances in 2 and a half seasons is better than I expected to be honest.
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We've got a lot more out of him than I expected us to and he's a big reason we're where we are.
He's only been able to start about half our games, though. If the same is true of Baxter I don't think he'll go down as as successful a transfer. Goalies are about stability, rather than inspiration. Others may feel differently, though.
If he is fully fit over the next two seasons I think he'll hugely improve our chances of going up. I live in hope.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
Putting aside injury stuff Ghost, why do you think he hugely improves our promotion credentials over Traf?GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Mon Jun 19, 2023 10:09 pmWe've got a lot more out of him than I expected us to and he's a big reason we're where we are.
He's only been able to start about half our games, though. If the same is true of Baxter I don't think he'll go down as as successful a transfer. Goalies are about stability, rather than inspiration. Others may feel differently, though.
If he is fully fit over the next two seasons I think he'll hugely improve our chances of going up. I live in hope.
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Re: Snog, Marry, Avoid: Summer 2023 Transfer Window
I wasn't really saying "over Traf", I meant compared to your average League One keeper.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:39 amPutting aside injury stuff Ghost, why do you think he hugely improves our promotion credentials over Traf?
He said in that club interview his aim was to be the best keeper in the division. That's not bragging, it's what he's done when fit in basically every division he's played in until last season.
At Accy he was on about 50% clean sheets. Same at Hull in his first loan, at which point he was statistically the best keeper in England (without adjusting for quality of league).
In terms of talent he is better than this division by a distance.
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Gotcha. Thanks, man. Fingers crossed, we keep him fit.GhostoftheBok wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 6:13 amI wasn't really saying "over Traf", I meant compared to your average League One keeper.Worthy4England wrote: ↑Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:39 amPutting aside injury stuff Ghost, why do you think he hugely improves our promotion credentials over Traf?
He said in that club interview his aim was to be the best keeper in the division. That's not bragging, it's what he's done when fit in basically every division he's played in until last season.
At Accy he was on about 50% clean sheets. Same at Hull in his first loan, at which point he was statistically the best keeper in England (without adjusting for quality of league).
In terms of talent he is better than this division by a distance.
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