he's went and quite literally posted..

[a1]

I'm staggered by your responses A1...

i'm not a deer .

There's been eight red cards in the last 11 meetings between the two sides.

that is plainly wrong - it should be "There have been eight red cards" or if you want a contraction "There've been"

i would of never seed that if i'd of been looking at that this time next tuesday ..

give is present tense , given is past tense ...


that's true - well done!

tank you. i tries me best.

the word "has" makes it past tense already "he has give it" is correct


that's manifestly bollox

manifest? what? like god?

has got = gotten .
has give = given .

likewise - utter bollox

what? like,-" 7h15 thr34d is gotten teh shitxxors hijaxorred 0utZ of itxored? "

your corrections are applying 'past tense' to the sentences twice "he has given it"

no they aren't - that's just how English works!

maybe. who made up these rules? was it somone called Mr. English ?

theyre both right , or more importantly weren't wrong in the first place,

no they're not - and no they weren't.

if they were in the future , what letters whould you append to them and which verb goes between them?

theyre both right , or more importantly weren't wrong in the first place,


no they're not - and no they weren't.

jeebus.... that was negative...

but i'm not bothered about it enough to get a thread going on trivial shit knowing full well it could bite me in the arse later on..


..which rather begs the question why you chose to wade in at all... The topic is only a small part of the Forum - and I have explained what it is for at the beginning. If it doesn't interest you, then don't read it - there's plenty of other interesting material here to occupy you. I'm staggered that anyone could make such a stand in support of such obviously bad/mangled English, and in the process get it so spectacularly wrong...

It seems it has spread much further than I had feared...

ho hum...

hmm, it *did* interest me , more in a 'oh no, people being clever, it'll bite them in them in the arse in the future ' way .. if i point this out , will they take it in 'good humour' or not..

No, seems to be the answer... theres bin one or two threadz on here lately like that...

reminds me of schoolteachers they were always clever , but point things out to them and they hate it back ...

i even tried to get it back on board with a andy gray comment . that got ignored/bypassed/dissmissed .. point of no return i fear..

ho ho ho.. mrryxms ..

[thebish]

OK - this is a good game..

I post something - you don't like it - so you claim I am in fact wrong - but actually you are - and you can't be bothered to argue about it anymore - even though you started the argument - and I'm humourless??

Blimey - I wonder if it will catch on?

Can I try?

A1 - Pederson is rubbish at left back
me - don't be stupid, he's a goalie and he plays for Anderlecht
A1 - no he's not - he's a striker who is played out of position
me - no he's not - he's a goalie - who invented the position names, anyway - mr Position? - have you no sense of humour?
My wife is a bowler hat - don't be so picky...
A1 -

is that how it works??

[Lennon]

Blimey, you lot are a bunch of petty little girls at times.

[thebish]

oooooooh get you Mr Mature!

[Daxter]

Blimey, you lot are a bunch of petty little girls at times.

I very much agree with a you, and i have been a very a guilty of this in the past.

We take things so trivial and insignificant to seriously.

[communistworkethic]

Blimey, you lot are a bunch of petty little girls at times.

I very much agree with a you, and i have been a very a guilty of this in the past.

We take things so trivial and insignificant to seriously.

I'm biting my lip..........must hold back...must not point out post littered with errors.....

[Lennon]

oooooooh get you Mr Mature!

That's me!

[mummywhycantieatcrayons]

What a bizarre turn this thread has taken. The Bish is certainly absolutely correct in his exposition of the relevant grammar. Whether or not we should care about grammatical mistakes is a different debate, and none of this has anything to do with 'accent'.

your corrections are applying 'past tense' to the sentences twice "he has given it"

no they aren't - that's just how English works!

maybe. who made up these rules? was it somone called Mr. English ?

No, it was English-speaking society. Even though we don't have any official body like, say, the Académie française, we do have a 'Standard English'.

The best way of seeing these rules in action would be if Daxter went for his job in journalism with a C.V. littered with mistakes: he wouldn't even be considered for the job as a result of his failure to conform to the linguistic norm. It's just the way things are.

[thebish]

Blimey, you lot are a bunch of petty little girls at times.

I very much agree with a you, and i have been a very a guilty of this in the past.

We take things so trivial and insignificant to seriously.

I think you may be misunderstandering the idea of this thread... It's not about picking up spelling and grammar errors in other people's posts - it's about highlighting examples of a kind of new-speak that is taking over football punditry

once it was a a few irritating cliches "early doors" etc.. but now it's whole new tense constructions.

I think that's interesting - and I am fascinated to see how widely these new tense-constructions are being used (and even justified)

that's all! if it doesn't interest you - just look away!

[Montreal Wanderer]

Not being pedantic or band-wagon jumping but: to state whether something has been "allowed" it this case, a penalty, the person stating it must know from something that happened before he can say it as a statement. In other words, it already happened so it's "past", if only by seconds. "He's give it" is heard quite often, but it's only lazy English. I have twice used lazy English in this short post by writing "it's" instead of "it is".

"It's" is a peferectly acceptable contraction. If "he's give it" is heard quite often then it must be dialect - it certainly isn'r proper English. Use of contractions may be lazy (I disagree there btw) but this is different from English that is simply incorrect as is the oft heard "we was...".

Is that a Canadianism Monty?

Okay, so I'd had a couple of drinks and have fat fingers. I'm not sure, however, where peferectly came from though!

[communistworkethic]

Not being pedantic or band-wagon jumping but: to state whether something has been "allowed" it this case, a penalty, the person stating it must know from something that happened before he can say it as a statement. In other words, it already happened so it's "past", if only by seconds. "He's give it" is heard quite often, but it's only lazy English. I have twice used lazy English in this short post by writing "it's" instead of "it is".

"It's" is a peferectly acceptable contraction. If "he's give it" is heard quite often then it must be dialect - it certainly isn'r proper English. Use of contractions may be lazy (I disagree there btw) but this is different from English that is simply incorrect as is the oft heard "we was...".

Is that a Canadianism Monty?

Okay, so I'd had a couple of drinks and have fat fingers. I'm not sure, however, where peferectly came from though!

especially after a few drinks, who can get their peferect???

[a1]

OK - this is a good game..

I post something - you don't like it - so you claim I am in fact wrong - but actually you are - and you can't be bothered to argue about it anymore - even though you started the argument - and I'm humourless??

Blimey - I wonder if it will catch on?

Can I try?

A1 - Pederson is rubbish at left back
me - don't be stupid, he's a goalie and he plays for Anderlecht
A1 - no he's not - he's a striker who is played out of position
me - no he's not - he's a goalie - who invented the position names, anyway - mr Position? - have you no sense of humour?
My wife is a bowler hat - don't be so picky...
A1 -

is that how it works??

i know i was wrong *before now* coz too many people told me i was (i think i was the post after mine), but i dont think that many people know it was wrong (including me) because theres that many rules to it.. thinking of it again - i now think 'has' is present and 'given' is past , and now cannot figure out why it wasnt "the ref had given it" , i suspect my new understanding of it is even wronger.. i dont want even more grammar lessons , because pointing this out has bitten me on the arse (if this is poetic justice , i dont understand that either) ... if i go back to my old understanding of were i thought you werent pointing out errors at all , thats probably best for me .. i might talk wrong , but at least i dont know where ..

the fact that a referee's whistle is that short a moment in time , i'm confused as to weather (sp?) its current at all ..

that print doesnt convey mood well didnt help , but at least i know i'm not on drugs now ..

thank you ,

a1 (not o drugs)

[Daxter]

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[Mansell Way]

"West Ham have unveiled Alan Curbishley as their new head coach"

1. Why don't they just call him a manager?
2. Why do they say unveiled? Did they pull a big white sheet off his head with a shout of tah-dah?

[Batman]

Blimey, you lot are a bunch of petty little girls at times.

I very much agree with a you, and i have been a very a guilty of this in the past.

We take things so trivial and insignificant to seriously.

I'm biting my lip..........must hold back...must not point out post littered with errors.....

[Soldier_Of_The_White_Army]

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Wasn't that Jeff Stellings responce to Sam giving him a live TV bollocking?

[warthog]

2. Why do they say unveiled? Did they pull a big white sheet off his head with a shout of tah-dah?

It's West Ham remember. Anything's possible.