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sorry but read that article without your Daily Mail specs on, they are a bunch of lazy no-mark whingers. £250 could easily be raised by no more than a couple of quid donation from each entrant or getting a local business to support it. Oh and it's not ending after 600 years at all, they revived it 10 years ago, like the story says.
If they'd been that bothered then we'd have been hearing about this weeks ago and not on the day. That way someone could have stepped in and given them the cash.
If they'd been that bothered then we'd have been hearing about this weeks ago and not on the day. That way someone could have stepped in and given them the cash.
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given the BBC news website is the world's most widely read news website, I'd guess that most posters are capable of catching this story themselves. So this leads me to believe your putting it up has a motive, it being "look another tradition quashed by the PC world (not to be confused with Garyy Glitter's nemesis)". As you have put the story up with no comment attached, it seems reasonable to assume you wanted the story to stand on its own, though you added "after 600 years" just to try and enforce the point even though it was inaccurate. It's a 10 year tradition.TANGODANCER wrote:Don't know why I bother. I didn't offer any opinions, just posted a link. The tradition apparently dates back 600 years. Contrary to public opinion, I wasn't around then.
You'll note there's no explanantion when or why it had stopped happening previously. But when you take a look - it turns out only the bell is traditional, it being rung to call the penitent to church on Shrove Tuesday. The pancakes started in 1998.
And if you had looked a little further, it didn't happen last year in Bedale, another North Yorks town, either, so should have had a clue about the issues for this year.
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According to you, almost everything I post has some ulterior motive. I'm well aware that most posters can read things for themselves; I'm also aware this a a banter forum, not Commie's personal blog space. Did everybody also read this:communistworkethic wrote:
given the BBC news website is the world's most widely read news website, I'd guess that most posters are capable of catching this story themselves. So this leads me to believe your putting it up has a motive, it being "look another tradition quashed by the PC world (not to be confused with Garyy Glitter's nemesis)". As you have put the story up with no comment attached, it seems reasonable to assume you wanted the story to stand on its own, though you added "after 600 years" just to try and enforce the point even though it was inaccurate. It's a 10 year tradition.
You'll note there's no explanantion when or why it had stopped happening previously. But when you take a look - it turns out only the bell is traditional, it being rung to call the penitent to church on Shrove Tuesday. The pancakes started in 1998.
And if you had looked a little further, it didn't happen last year in Bedale, another North Yorks town, either, so should have had a clue about the issues for this year.
Pancake race bannedNo doubt you will all hear or read this at some point today.
A Cathedral pancake race that is part of a 600-year-old tradition has been stopped because of health and safety rules.
The bell at Ripon Cathedral, which has rung at 11am to mark Shrove Tuesday since the 15th century, has signalled the start of the city's pancake race for the past 11 years.
However, the event, in which children, traders, soldiers and even clergy compete, has been abandoned because of the amount of work needed to carry out risk assessments.
The Dean of Ripon, the Very Rev Keith Jukes, who helps organise the races, said: "We have looked at this and there are a number of reasons why it won't take place and a big reason this year is, sadly, health and safety.
"Any organisation that runs an event has to go through risk assessments. The insurance companies demand it and in the end you have to work out whether it's a risk you take.
"There is also the issue of road closures, which can be an expensive business." Bernard Bateman, one of the organisers, said it was also becoming increasingly difficult to find volunteers willing to help as marshals.
In past years, the event, part of a long tradition of pancake races in Ripon, was likened to a village sports day, a last chance to have fun before the solemn season of Lent.
The race has been growing in popularity and even involved members of 38 Regt Royal Engineers, based in Ripon, who cook pancakes from a field kitchen outside the west front of the cathedral.
Mr Bateman, a councillor, said: "The main problem is health and safety. There are so many things to put in place to make sure the event can get off the ground.
"We had hoped to make the pancake race as much of a tradition as the pancake bell and it's a travesty that it has been killed off.
"Everyone involved in the race is a volunteer and at the end of the day fewer and fewer people are volunteering these days, and it's because of the paperwork that started off as well-meaning but has now gone overboard.
"It puts people off helping. It's just one thing after another."
Jean Smith, 61, a resident of Ripon, said: "It's totally daft. Why should paperwork get in the way of kids having fun? We seem to hear it all the time now but it's bureaucracy gone mad."
Ripon Cathedral traditionally used the "pancake bell" to summon penitents to church to be "shriven" by making confessions before the start of Lent.
A survey has suggested that two thirds of people in the country no longer mark the Christian tradition of making pancakes.
Many are even unaware of its place in the calendar. Shrove Tuesday, which falls 47 days before Easter Sunday, is today.
Pancakes have featured in cookbooks since 1439. The custom of flipping or tossing them is believed to have started in the 17th century. They are made from rich ingredients that include eggs and milk, which were used up in households before the 40 days of Lent during which only plain food should be eaten.
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and the source of that is? I took mine from the Diocese of Ripon & Leeds. Presumambly they actually know their own Pancake Race's history.
http://members.aol.com/jhgcarter/press259.htm
"commie's person blog space"? I'd suggest you check the definition of "hypiocrisy", or perhaps describing your house and its contents doesn't count?
You posted something for a reason, on the basis of its content and your other posts I made a reasonable assumption about your motives. Or was there something altruistic that I missed - please do tell me if I've missed it. Then you respond with basically a repetition of the originally story, one which still doesn't backup the idea that the race is 600 years old. I don't know why.
Oh and I'd suggest the biggest reason for it not happening is this.....
"A survey has suggested that two thirds of people in the country no longer mark the Christian tradition of making pancakes."
i.e. frankly nobody gives a toss.
No doubt I'll be banned for not toeing the line and all evidence of this thread will strangely disappear.
http://members.aol.com/jhgcarter/press259.htm
"commie's person blog space"? I'd suggest you check the definition of "hypiocrisy", or perhaps describing your house and its contents doesn't count?
You posted something for a reason, on the basis of its content and your other posts I made a reasonable assumption about your motives. Or was there something altruistic that I missed - please do tell me if I've missed it. Then you respond with basically a repetition of the originally story, one which still doesn't backup the idea that the race is 600 years old. I don't know why.
Oh and I'd suggest the biggest reason for it not happening is this.....
"A survey has suggested that two thirds of people in the country no longer mark the Christian tradition of making pancakes."
i.e. frankly nobody gives a toss.
No doubt I'll be banned for not toeing the line and all evidence of this thread will strangely disappear.
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely
kevin nolan is so fat, that when he sits around the house he sits around the house
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Have you ever kissed a girl?communistworkethic wrote:given the BBC news website is the world's most widely read news website, I'd guess that most posters are capable of catching this story themselves. So this leads me to believe your putting it up has a motive, it being "look another tradition quashed by the PC world (not to be confused with Garyy Glitter's nemesis)". As you have put the story up with no comment attached, it seems reasonable to assume you wanted the story to stand on its own, though you added "after 600 years" just to try and enforce the point even though it was inaccurate. It's a 10 year tradition.TANGODANCER wrote:Don't know why I bother. I didn't offer any opinions, just posted a link. The tradition apparently dates back 600 years. Contrary to public opinion, I wasn't around then.
You'll note there's no explanantion when or why it had stopped happening previously. But when you take a look - it turns out only the bell is traditional, it being rung to call the penitent to church on Shrove Tuesday. The pancakes started in 1998.
And if you had looked a little further, it didn't happen last year in Bedale, another North Yorks town, either, so should have had a clue about the issues for this year.
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aye, your mum.LeeRoyBrown wrote:Have you ever kissed a girl?communistworkethic wrote:given the BBC news website is the world's most widely read news website, I'd guess that most posters are capable of catching this story themselves. So this leads me to believe your putting it up has a motive, it being "look another tradition quashed by the PC world (not to be confused with Garyy Glitter's nemesis)". As you have put the story up with no comment attached, it seems reasonable to assume you wanted the story to stand on its own, though you added "after 600 years" just to try and enforce the point even though it was inaccurate. It's a 10 year tradition.TANGODANCER wrote:Don't know why I bother. I didn't offer any opinions, just posted a link. The tradition apparently dates back 600 years. Contrary to public opinion, I wasn't around then.
You'll note there's no explanantion when or why it had stopped happening previously. But when you take a look - it turns out only the bell is traditional, it being rung to call the penitent to church on Shrove Tuesday. The pancakes started in 1998.
And if you had looked a little further, it didn't happen last year in Bedale, another North Yorks town, either, so should have had a clue about the issues for this year.
just thought I'd keep up with your high-brow level of response.
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From the top:communistworkethic wrote:and the source of that is? I took mine from the Diocese of Ripon & Leeds. Presumambly they actually know their own Pancake Race's history.
http://members.aol.com/jhgcarter/press259.htm
"commie's person blog space"? I'd suggest you check the definition of "hypiocrisy", or perhaps describing your house and its contents doesn't count?
You posted something for a reason, on the basis of its content and your other posts I made a reasonable assumption about your motives. Or was there something altruistic that I missed - please do tell me if I've missed it. Then you respond with basically a repetition of the originally story, one which still doesn't backup the idea that the race is 600 years old. I don't know why.
Oh and I'd suggest the biggest reason for it not happening is this.....
"A survey has suggested that two thirds of people in the country no longer mark the Christian tradition of making pancakes."
i.e. frankly nobody gives a toss.
No doubt I'll be banned for not toeing the line and all evidence of this thread will strangely disappear.
This morning, at work, a courier driver asked me if I'd heard about this item. I hadn't.
I didn't put on my "Daily Mail glasses"( a paper I never read) but Googled it out of interest. Up came the link I posted, and another from Virgin Radio with the content I later posted. I did it for interest and not from any "motive".
Nowhere, repeat nowhere, did I say anything about a race. The 600 years was relating to the pancake tradition.
"Garry Glitter nemesis, contents of my house, hypocracy", Christian tradition? All these leave me baffled.
Banning? Why would that be? If you're in some way suggesting I was responsible for your previous ban, then you're way off the mark there too. You managed that all on your own.
The rest, all because of two words and a link, has me lost.....completely.
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