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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:52 pm

fatshaft wrote:When are these shenanigans over?

Would Hilary make Obama her vice-presidential running mate, and vice-versa?
Either is considered unlikely.
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Post by Worthy4England » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:00 pm

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fatshaft wrote:When are these shenanigans over?

Would Hilary make Obama her vice-presidential running mate, and vice-versa?
Either is considered unlikely.
without trying to extend into a political here MW, is that because somwhere (whichever one wins) they're going to need to have a white male as running mate to appease the "disaffected" voters who don't fancy either of em?

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:45 pm

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fatshaft wrote:When are these shenanigans over?

Would Hilary make Obama her vice-presidential running mate, and vice-versa?
Either is considered unlikely.
without trying to extend into a political here MW, is that because somwhere (whichever one wins) they're going to need to have a white male as running mate to appease the "disaffected" voters who don't fancy either of em?
I would say that Obama would not run for VP (even if Hilary wanted him which I doubt) because it would probably prejudice his chances four years hence of getting the presidential nod. I don't think Hilary would ever want to be second to anyone. I suspect the VP candidate will be a white male, partly because they present by far the largest percentage of the available pool. The successful candidate will select the VP who they believe will help them win - and possibly the factor you imply will enter into it. But the initial reason is neither candidate would be happy to be a VP candidate for the other. Most people think America is more ready for a woman president than a black one. We'll see.
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Post by americantrotter » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:55 pm

Obama has a better chance in the general election. The Democratic Party is letting down America and the World again. We'll end up with another shit Republican.

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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:43 pm

So... a couple of months have trundled by... and I've started to follow things more closely..... it is now a case of Hillary hanging on, but with Obama unlikely to be able to put her away until June at the earliest. I really feel that there are so few swing voters (even fewer than normal, as Americans are renowned for their staunch partisanship) left to influence the nomination contest that they'll continue to battle it out, possibly until the summer convention where Obama will win on the basis of his slim majority. Obama can say awful things (his 'bitter' comments revealed himself to be the bigot that I've always suspected him to be) and keep his poll numbers constant, while Hillary can lie (Bosnia...) and see little change. In the end, this drawn-out fight works out very well for conservatives like me who are enjoying watching them slander eachother and waste money.

If democrats were smart (which they aren't - if they were they'd be republicans... ha), they'd see that Obama cannot win the states necessary to beat John McCain while Hillary could give it a much better chance. I've changed my mind that Hillary is 'more beatable' because every single election comes down to a handful of 'swing states' (Ohio, Florida, etc); B Hussein is weak in most of them (and has lost the respective primaries) while Hillary could present the GOP with much more serious problems in those battles. On this basis it was quite easy to predict the outcome of the 2004 election: the GOP had their safe states locked up, while all the close states were either traditional donkey states, or ones that were usually close. It seems, especially if our madrassa-educated friend wins the privilege of running for America's first Affirmative Action President, that this will be repeated. He's such an underqualified retard - part of me hopes that he does win just so that America could be taught a lesson in the value of tokenism and condescension.
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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:48 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:So... a couple of months have trundled by... and I've started to follow things more closely..... it is now a case of Hillary hanging on, but with Obama unlikely to be able to put her away until June at the earliest. I really feel that there are so few swing voters (even fewer than normal, as Americans are renowned for their staunch partisanship) left to influence the nomination contest that they'll continue to battle it out, possibly until the summer convention where Obama will win on the basis of his slim majority. Obama can say awful things (his 'bitter' comments revealed himself to be the bigot that I've always suspected him to be) and keep his poll numbers constant, while Hillary can lie (Bosnia...) and see little change. In the end, this drawn-out fight works out very well for conservatives like me who are enjoying watching them slander eachother and waste money.

If democrats were smart (which they aren't - if they were they'd be republicans... ha), they'd see that Obama cannot win the states necessary to beat John McCain while Hillary could give it a much better chance. I've changed my mind that Hillary is 'more beatable' because every single election comes down to a handful of 'swing states' (Ohio, Florida, etc); B Hussein is weak in most of them (and has lost the respective primaries) while Hillary could present the GOP with much more serious problems in those battles. On this basis it was quite easy to predict the outcome of the 2004 election: the GOP had their safe states locked up, while all the close states were either traditional donkey states, or ones that were usually close. It seems, especially if our madrassa-educated friend wins the priviledge of running for America's first Affirmative Action President, that this will be repeated. He's such an underqualified retard - part of me hopes that he does win just so that America could be taught a lesson in the value of tokenism and condescension.
Oh aye because George Bush is definitely the brightest bulb in the box.

FFS.

Oh and while I'm on the subject it would be much worse having a token black president to having the most corrupt and evil fooktard who is in power now would it?

Oh and I'm sure its not better than some 71 year old ex military nut job, who more than likely is going to win by telling the American dumbass public that "A vote for him is a vote for God".

Fook me.
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:53 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:Oh aye because George Bush is definitely the brightest bulb in the box.

FFS.
Joke. :roll:

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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:58 pm

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:So... a couple of months have trundled by... and I've started to follow things more closely..... it is now a case of Hillary hanging on, but with Obama unlikely to be able to put her away until June at the earliest. I really feel that there are so few swing voters (even fewer than normal, as Americans are renowned for their staunch partisanship) left to influence the nomination contest that they'll continue to battle it out, possibly until the summer convention where Obama will win on the basis of his slim majority. Obama can say awful things (his 'bitter' comments revealed himself to be the bigot that I've always suspected him to be) and keep his poll numbers constant, while Hillary can lie (Bosnia...) and see little change. In the end, this drawn-out fight works out very well for conservatives like me who are enjoying watching them slander eachother and waste money.

If democrats were smart (which they aren't - if they were they'd be republicans... ha), they'd see that Obama cannot win the states necessary to beat John McCain while Hillary could give it a much better chance. I've changed my mind that Hillary is 'more beatable' because every single election comes down to a handful of 'swing states' (Ohio, Florida, etc); B Hussein is weak in most of them (and has lost the respective primaries) while Hillary could present the GOP with much more serious problems in those battles. On this basis it was quite easy to predict the outcome of the 2004 election: the GOP had their safe states locked up, while all the close states were either traditional donkey states, or ones that were usually close. It seems, especially if our madrassa-educated friend wins the priviledge of running for America's first Affirmative Action President, that this will be repeated. He's such an underqualified retard - part of me hopes that he does win just so that America could be taught a lesson in the value of tokenism and condescension.
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:01 pm

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:So... a couple of months have trundled by... and I've started to follow things more closely..... it is now a case of Hillary hanging on, but with Obama unlikely to be able to put her away until June at the earliest. I really feel that there are so few swing voters (even fewer than normal, as Americans are renowned for their staunch partisanship) left to influence the nomination contest that they'll continue to battle it out, possibly until the summer convention where Obama will win on the basis of his slim majority. Obama can say awful things (his 'bitter' comments revealed himself to be the bigot that I've always suspected him to be) and keep his poll numbers constant, while Hillary can lie (Bosnia...) and see little change. In the end, this drawn-out fight works out very well for conservatives like me who are enjoying watching them slander eachother and waste money.

If democrats were smart (which they aren't - if they were they'd be republicans... ha), they'd see that Obama cannot win the states necessary to beat John McCain while Hillary could give it a much better chance. I've changed my mind that Hillary is 'more beatable' because every single election comes down to a handful of 'swing states' (Ohio, Florida, etc); B Hussein is weak in most of them (and has lost the respective primaries) while Hillary could present the GOP with much more serious problems in those battles. On this basis it was quite easy to predict the outcome of the 2004 election: the GOP had their safe states locked up, while all the close states were either traditional donkey states, or ones that were usually close. It seems, especially if our madrassa-educated friend wins the priviledge of running for America's first Affirmative Action President, that this will be repeated. He's such an underqualified retard - part of me hopes that he does win just so that America could be taught a lesson in the value of tokenism and condescension.
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Doesn't matter. Its America. Obama will probably get the Democratic nomination, the vote will be tight as ever with obama probably just edging out McCain, but McCain will "win" because one of his relatives will be the voting official in Florida (and probably every other state) and will stuff a few extra in the ballot boxes for good measure.

So God wins again!

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:02 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote: Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Whoever the Chelsea fans are supporting

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Post by blurred » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:04 pm

boltonboris wrote:Whoever the Chelsea fans are supporting
I'd be amazed if Chelsea was supporting anyone other than her mother...

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boltonboris wrote:Whoever the Chelsea fans are supporting
I'd be amazed if Chelsea was supporting anyone other than her mother...
Sharp as a knife!!

Looks like her mother may be getting herself a (Bruce) buck or two!

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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:27 pm

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:So... a couple of months have trundled by... and I've started to follow things more closely..... it is now a case of Hillary hanging on, but with Obama unlikely to be able to put her away until June at the earliest. I really feel that there are so few swing voters (even fewer than normal, as Americans are renowned for their staunch partisanship) left to influence the nomination contest that they'll continue to battle it out, possibly until the summer convention where Obama will win on the basis of his slim majority. Obama can say awful things (his 'bitter' comments revealed himself to be the bigot that I've always suspected him to be) and keep his poll numbers constant, while Hillary can lie (Bosnia...) and see little change. In the end, this drawn-out fight works out very well for conservatives like me who are enjoying watching them slander eachother and waste money.

If democrats were smart (which they aren't - if they were they'd be republicans... ha), they'd see that Obama cannot win the states necessary to beat John McCain while Hillary could give it a much better chance. I've changed my mind that Hillary is 'more beatable' because every single election comes down to a handful of 'swing states' (Ohio, Florida, etc); B Hussein is weak in most of them (and has lost the respective primaries) while Hillary could present the GOP with much more serious problems in those battles. On this basis it was quite easy to predict the outcome of the 2004 election: the GOP had their safe states locked up, while all the close states were either traditional donkey states, or ones that were usually close. It seems, especially if our madrassa-educated friend wins the priviledge of running for America's first Affirmative Action President, that this will be repeated. He's such an underqualified retard - part of me hopes that he does win just so that America could be taught a lesson in the value of tokenism and condescension.
Oh aye because George Bush is definitely the brightest bulb in the box.

FFS.

Oh and while I'm on the subject it would be much worse having a token black president to having the most corrupt and evil fooktard who is in power now would it?

Oh and I'm sure its not better than some 71 year old ex military nut job, who more than likely is going to win by telling the American dumbass public that "A vote for him is a vote for God".

Fook me.
You have to remember, BWFCi, that for quite some time Mummy's avatar was a picture of Margaret Thatcher.

Tokenism? Affirmative Action? "B Hussein"? You're a bright fella, don't show yourself up as a brain-dead right-wing bigot. Oooh it's the bogeyman!!!

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:31 pm

I want to go to one of these 'swing states'

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:33 pm

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Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:36 pm

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
Why?

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:39 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
Why?
Increasing US Poverty levels? Recession? WAR?

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Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:44 pm

boltonboris wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
Why?
Increasing US Poverty levels? Recession? WAR?
Lies? Corruption? Stupidity?

Christ the list is endless.

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Post by superjohnmcginlay » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:44 pm

boltonboris wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
Why?
Increasing US Poverty levels? Recession? WAR?
Are the other party some sort of magic wand? Why would it be any different under the democrats? That other Clinton was a right dodgy fooker from what I remember.

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Post by boltonboris » Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:48 pm

superjohnmcginlay wrote:
boltonboris wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:
superjohnmcginlay wrote:
Didnt understand a word of that. Who's winning?
Still Obama, but it is getting tighter since Pennsylvania. Mummy's wish for another Republican president is incomprehensible. Being of a conservative disposition is fine, but the US (and the world) desperately need a change.
Why?
Increasing US Poverty levels? Recession? WAR?
Are the other party some sort of magic wand? Why would it be any different under the democrats? That other Clinton was a right dodgy fooker from what I remember.
That Lewinsky was a bit dodgy, come to mention it! (still had worse)

Maybe it won't be any better / maybe it will, but it surely won't be any worse! It's a risk that the US and the hoping / watching world, need to make

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