The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

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Re: The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

Post by Little Green Man » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:19 am

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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:I like nesh, nesh is good.
Pillock too, that's a splendid word.
They're both Yorkshire I believe.
It's in use across much of the north of England. I've been described as nesh by several people over the years.

I first came across it in print in a book by Liverpool author James Hanley - I think it was Boy. It was written (incorrectly) with an i in the middle but it's also been used by Thomas Hardy, DH Lawrence and even Chaucer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nesh
Nesh seems to have many meaning, all going back to Old English hnesce . In what sense was it applied to you, LGM, and what does LLS understand it to mean?
Susceptible to cold - that's the only meaning I've ever come across.

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:22 am

Most women are 'nesh' ... in that they whinge about it being cold when you or I would be in a t-shirt.
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Re: The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

Post by Little Green Man » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:24 am

bobo the clown wrote:Most women are 'nesh' ... in that they whinge about it being cold when you or I would be in a t-shirt.
I'd be in two jumpers. But that's a Scottish summer for you.

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:31 am

A few points:

It's defo a barm. Fact.

The 'I'm going for't buy/do/see etc... something', that's Wigan.

Here it is pronounced 'Giv-ore' not 'Gi-ower' but either way it's a belting phrase.

'Nesh' is a great word, which means 'soft'.

As does 'mard', unless you're weird and from Yorkshire like the Arctic Monkeys where 'mard' means 'stroppy'. They're wrong of course.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:29 am

A 'barm cake' is a very specific bread bun/bap etc. It is quite different in taste to anything nowadays freely available.

I'd say anyone under 35 has probably never actually had one. We should campaign Warby's to restart production. A breaded-ham barm was a thing of beauty.

The word is used generically but I'm afraid, Pru, you've never actually tasted the delights of a real one.
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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:34 am

In fact, they were ... stonking.

Anyone who didn't think so was ... a divvy.

I'm now really wanting to recapture that taste. In fact ... I'm thrutching for one.
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Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:40 am

bobo the clown wrote:In fact, they were ... stonking.

Anyone who didn't think so was ... a divvy.

I'm now really wanting to recapture that taste. In fact ... I'm thrutching for one.

I always thought that word meant "straining" - as you might do on the bog....

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Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:43 am

To strain may take many forms. One being to be extremely desirous, shirley ?
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Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:46 am

bobo the clown wrote:To strain may take many forms. One being to be extremely desirous, shirley ?
oh aye - no problem with you using it that way - just that I've never heard it used that way! you learn summat new every day! 8)

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:19 pm

Prufrock wrote:A few points:

The 'I'm going for't buy/do/see etc... something', that's Wigan.
The correct pronunciation is " fer't, as in "I'm going fer't bus" and is decidedly Bolton.

Also Bolton is " You'll get a whinger in a minute". (A favourite of my mothers) and "you'll get a pelt if you're not careful" . Both terms of endearment. :wink: My dad, being Irish) had a vocabulary all his own which had nowt at all to do with Bolton.

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Post by PC1978 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:58 pm

Crumpet pizzas are the future!!!

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Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:59 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:A few points:

The 'I'm going for't buy/do/see etc... something', that's Wigan.
The correct pronunciation is " fer't, as in "I'm going fer't bus" and is decidedly Bolton.

aye... once again Pru embarrasses himself!! You're just to young to know this stuff Pru!!!

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Post by Prufrock » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:01 pm

It's bloody Wigan! You're all a bunch of wannabe pie-eaters.

I know a girl who lives in Wrightington and insists she is from Wigan not Chorley. Now, Chorley is hardly fin de siecle Paris, but WIGAN?! Given a freebie and she didn't want it. Fecking Wigan sympathisers everywhere.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:02 pm

thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:A few points:

The 'I'm going for't buy/do/see etc... something', that's Wigan.
The correct pronunciation is " fer't, as in "I'm going fer't bus" and is decidedly Bolton.

aye... once again Pru embarrasses himself!! You're just to young to know this stuff Pru!!!
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Post by thebish » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:06 pm

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thebish wrote:
TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:A few points:

The 'I'm going for't buy/do/see etc... something', that's Wigan.
The correct pronunciation is " fer't, as in "I'm going fer't bus" and is decidedly Bolton.

aye... once again Pru embarrasses himself!! You're just to young to know this stuff Pru!!!
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Post by Abdoulaye's Twin » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:08 pm

PC1978 wrote:Crumpet pizzas are the future!!!
Were they a success then? :mrgreen:

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Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:11 pm

Prufrock wrote:It's bloody Wigan! You're all a bunch of wannabe pie-eaters.

I know a girl who lives in Wrightington and insists she is from Wigan not Chorley. Now, Chorley is hardly fin de siecle Paris, but WIGAN?! Given a freebie and she didn't want it. Fecking Wigan sympathisers everywhere.
Not sure about the present time, but Wingates (Westhoughton) has long been the Mecca of almost biblical expressionism, thee,thou (both pronouunced thar't) being typical. Wigan is just watered down Wingates.
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Re: The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

Post by bobo the clown » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:17 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:
Prufrock wrote:It's bloody Wigan! You're all a bunch of wannabe pie-eaters.

I know a girl who lives in Wrightington and insists she is from Wigan not Chorley. Now, Chorley is hardly fin de siecle Paris, but WIGAN?! Given a freebie and she didn't want it. Fecking Wigan sympathisers everywhere.
Not sure about the present time, but Wingates (Westhoughton) has long been the Mecca of almost biblical expressionism, thee,thou (both pronouunced thar't) being typical. Wigan is just watered down Wingates.
The west Bolton area & environs have an old Lancastrian tinge to their accent. So 'owfen, Wingates, Blackrod, 'orwich have trace of Wiggin in there. Add to that the Daist Hill, Atherton, Leigh areas where plenty of Bolton fans come from & thee, thy, thou and all thir extentions are a'plenty in the accent.
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Re: The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

Post by Bruce Rioja » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:19 pm

Prufrock wrote:It's bloody Wigan! You're all a bunch of wannabe pie-eaters.

I know a girl who lives in Wrightington and insists she is from Wigan not Chorley. Now, Chorley is hardly fin de siecle Paris, but WIGAN?! Given a freebie and she didn't want it. Fecking Wigan sympathisers everywhere.
In the interests of your education, Wiganners use "Fott", not "For't", and we use "Fert'".
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Re: The Wanderer; A Thesaurus

Post by TANGODANCER » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:22 pm

"Crackers" as in thar't crackers mon", or "not reet". Polite form is "don't talk silly", impolite version "tha talks like a twxt". :wink:
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