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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:54 pm

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Montreal Wanderer wrote:The Canadian suspect, Chiheb Esseghaier, does not seem typical to me. A PhD student at INRS he has co-authored half a dozen scientific papers (principal researcher in three). He is on linkedin. Hi field is biochemistry.
In what way is he not typical? The tw+ts at Glasgow Airport were doctors. The only connection necessary is that they are fxckin Muslim.
The Canadian alleged terrorists were actually turned in by a Toronto iman. Indeed I'm fairly confident the vast majority of Canadian Moslems have little sypathy with terrorists.
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Four trips to winter sunshine have inured me somewhat, but I still fight the fear on take-off, landing and turbulence.
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Post by Prufrock » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:18 am

I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:32 am

Prufrock wrote:I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
This is true. In the US you are seven times more likely to be attacked by a cow than a shark. FACT. But a somewhat pointless one.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Dujon » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:33 am

I'm with you, Monty, and the others who have expressed the same opinion. It's all a matter of control. In my case I must be close to the worst car passenger in the world - even though I (sort of) trust the driver; put me behind the wheel and it's a totally different matter. Not that mayhem is my motto, by the way, it's just that one's fate is one's own hands I suppose.

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Post by thebish » Wed Apr 24, 2013 9:31 am

Montreal Wanderer wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Montreal Wanderer wrote:The Canadian suspect, Chiheb Esseghaier, does not seem typical to me. A PhD student at INRS he has co-authored half a dozen scientific papers (principal researcher in three). He is on linkedin. Hi field is biochemistry.
In what way is he not typical? The tw+ts at Glasgow Airport were doctors. The only connection necessary is that they are fxckin Muslim.
The Canadian alleged terrorists were actually turned in by a Toronto iman. Indeed I'm fairly confident the vast majority of Canadian Moslems have little sypathy with terrorists.
I'm also fairly confident that the vast majority of Canadian Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, Hindus and Jedi Knightists have little sympathy with terrorists.

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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:31 am

Prufrock wrote:I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
Is that true?

I'd have thought that the risk of death per hour of car travel is higher than the per hour of flying equivalent.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:39 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
Is that true?

I'd have thought that the risk of death per hour of car travel is higher than the per hour of flying equivalent.
It depends if you work it out by per journey or per journey hour, and also whether you calculate it based on per car/per aircraft or per passenger. But they are more or less (statistically significantly speaking) the same likelihood.
It also depends if you are comparing the whole world or different countries. The death rate for car journeys in India are more than fifty times the death rates in the UK for instance.
By far the safest passenger mode is by train, which is significantly safer than all other modes of transport including walking.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:42 am

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
Is that true?

I'd have thought that the risk of death per hour of car travel is higher than the per hour of flying equivalent.
It depends if you work it out by per journey or per journey hour, and also whether you calculate it based on per car/per aircraft or per passenger. But they are more or less (statistically significantly speaking) the same likelihood.
It also depends if you are comparing the whole world or different countries. The death rate for car journeys in India are more than fifty times the death rates in the UK for instance.
By far the safest passenger mode is by train, which is significantly safer than all other modes of transport including walking.
I was thinking per passenger journey hour in the UK.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:45 am

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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:
Prufrock wrote:I'm generally all right, though turbulence f*cks me right up.

On the whole 'flying being safer than driving a car' thing, I thought I'd read somewhere that you're only less likely to die flying in the same way that you're less likely to die fighting a hungry lion than you are walking down the stairs, given the number of times you do each.
Is that true?

I'd have thought that the risk of death per hour of car travel is higher than the per hour of flying equivalent.
It depends if you work it out by per journey or per journey hour, and also whether you calculate it based on per car/per aircraft or per passenger. But they are more or less (statistically significantly speaking) the same likelihood.
It also depends if you are comparing the whole world or different countries. The death rate for car journeys in India are more than fifty times the death rates in the UK for instance.
By far the safest passenger mode is by train, which is significantly safer than all other modes of transport including walking.
I was thinking per passenger journey hour in the UK.
Then airplanes are 'safer' but not by a statistically significant amount.
[Edit] although there are no specific figures for the safety of aircraft flights that can be determined as solely UK flights.
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Re: Boston Marathon hit by explosions

Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:56 am

I didn't really mean solely UK flights.

What's the statistically insignificant margin you've worked out?
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Post by Lost Leopard Spot » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:04 am

mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I didn't really mean solely UK flights.

What's the statistically insignificant margin you've worked out?
You're in the realm of a mate of mine, he's a statistician and his field is transport accidents. After many a drunken conversation with him I know the 'headlines' but cannot quote the meaty figures themselves - I do know that if you apply standard deviation to the figures between deaths per UK car passenger hours and deaths per commercial domestic aircraft passenger hours in the USA, that there is no statistical significance. For actual figures I'll need to harvest those from my mate next time he's down and drunk...
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Post by TANGODANCER » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:25 am

Morning all. Good to see you're all alive and well. At my age, the chances of getting knocked down crossing a road, getting mugged and robbed, getting catapulted down a bus by some careless bus driver or even suffering a heart attack are all far, far greater than snuffing it in a plane crash. Sod, it, I'm still going out and chancing it though. :wink:
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Post by mummywhycantieatcrayons » Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:20 pm

I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)

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ChrisC wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)
Too fxckin right. Bejeezus!
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)
Too fxckin right. Bejeezus!
But then he is only acting I suppose. :roll:
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Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
Lost Leopard Spot wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)
Too fxckin right. Bejeezus!
But then he is only acting I suppose. :roll:
Is the guy not right in what he is saying though regarding the guy not bleeding to death?

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:21 pm

ChrisC wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)
Thanks for the warning, Chris. I shan't bother! :wink:
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Post by ChrisC » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:24 pm

Bruce Rioja wrote:
ChrisC wrote:
mummywhycantieatcrayons wrote:I do love a good conspiracy theory...

http://www.chrisspivey.co.uk/?p=11184" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Some people might wish to be warned about the graphic pictures in the link 8)
Thanks for the warning, Chris. I shan't bother! :wink:
I've seen a lot worse but some people can't stomach a small scratch.

The only graphic picture is a guy with his legs blown off so flesh and bone on show.

Minor flesh wound 8)

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