Politics, The Election May 2015

[thebish]

Voters have been turned off in droves by Nigel Farage during the election campaign, a new poll claims.

The Ipsos MORI survey for the Standard found 38 per cent of people had developed a less favourable view of the Ukip leader in recent weeks, compared with 20 per cent whose opinion of him had improved.

by my calculations - that's 18 steps towards being yesterdays man!

I find it so strange you profess admiration for the wee Krankie and her bunch of nationalist thugs, a party hell bent on leaving the Union despite getting the best deals of anyone.

I think you'd be hard pressed to find evidence of me expressing admiration for the wee krankie.

you might get me to go as far as:

1: she'd make the labour party a heck of a lot more left wing than it is now - and that would be a good thing in my view.
2: better a labour party propped up by SNP than a Tory party propped up by UKIP and DUP (not that UKIP will have enough seats to be in anyone's priority telephone list after the election...)

but - I wouldn't trust her or salmond as far as I could throw the both of them strapped together...

you might be confusing the FACT that I think she will win a shedload more seats than UKIP with your odd FICTION that this means I love her... I am merely telling you how it is!

she's the oppo character of the day... Nige wishes it was him - so do you - but the plain and obvious fact is he's NOT.

Nige won't even be the SECOND most successful oppo politician.. (if you count Milliband)

[Lord Kangana]

Ha, UKIP aren't going to do shit.

I do think Miliband is handling the SNP question terribly. He said under no circumstances he would work with them because he doesn't want to give away any of his manifesto. So he'd honestly rather see a Tory government than say only get 90% of his manifesto through? Trident isn't even an issue, both Labour and the Tories support it so SNP support is irrelevant. There's a chance here for a progressive centre-left alliance that can bring in reform to lock the nasty party out for a generation. Vote through electoral reform, House of Lords reform and lower the voting age to 16, then just call another election if you want. You aren't winning a majority, Ed.

The whole SNP is a load of shit anyway. Tories are scared of them because in a realistic world, they'll have a powerful amount of seats, and are more likely to coalesce with parties of the left than the right, so we get the usual Daily Mail "oh my god, it'll be like Stalin's purges all over again" nonsense. What they really mean is "the more powerful the SNP is, the greater likelihood of us losing power". I think its not very grown up to say the least.

Labour are scared of them, because despite the possibility of them being helped into government, the realistic possibility of this means it could erode the Labour vote north of the border. Votes is cash and power, remember.

And ultimately, all they really are are a pressure group whose central aim is Scottish Independence. Now most people on here probably didn't notice because it wasn't that highly publicised, but the Scots themselves had a democratic referendum on this very issue probably about 6 months ago or so ( I forget, it was so irrelevant) where they voted to stay in the United Kingdom.

Of course, what gets my goat about all of this is none of the above, but the droves of idiots that I find I have to have conversations with who spout verbatim that which they have been given to think. How many seats does Scotland have? Its certainly not a Parliamentary majority, or anywhere near. There needs to be a severe case of taking brains out of neutral on this one.

[Hoboh]

Ha, UKIP aren't going to do shit.

I do think Miliband is handling the SNP question terribly. He said under no circumstances he would work with them because he doesn't want to give away any of his manifesto. So he'd honestly rather see a Tory government than say only get 90% of his manifesto through? Trident isn't even an issue, both Labour and the Tories support it so SNP support is irrelevant. There's a chance here for a progressive centre-left alliance that can bring in reform to lock the nasty party out for a generation. Vote through electoral reform, House of Lords reform and lower the voting age to 16, then just call another election if you want. You aren't winning a majority, Ed.

The whole SNP is a load of shit anyway. Tories are scared of them because in a realistic world, they'll have a powerful amount of seats, and are more likely to coalesce with parties of the left than the right, so we get the usual Daily Mail "oh my god, it'll be like Stalin's purges all over again" nonsense. What they really mean is "the more powerful the SNP is, the greater likelihood of us losing power". I think its not very grown up to say the least.

Labour are scared of them, because despite the possibility of them being helped into government, the realistic possibility of this means it could erode the Labour vote north of the border. Votes is cash and power, remember.

And ultimately, all they really are are a pressure group whose central aim is Scottish Independence. Now most people on here probably didn't notice because it wasn't that highly publicised, but the Scots themselves had a democratic referendum on this very issue probably about 6 months ago or so ( I forget, it was so irrelevant) where they voted to stay in the United Kingdom.

Of course, what gets my goat about all of this is none of the above, but the droves of idiots that I find I have to have conversations with who spout verbatim that which they have been given to think. How many seats does Scotland have? Its certainly not a Parliamentary majority, or anywhere near. There needs to be a severe case of taking brains out of neutral on this one.

Or simpler still, taking Scotland out.
I don't mind the Scots going alone provided they don't leave with a big goody bag, after all the tariffs and taxes we could place on a non EU country would be more than welcome
I hope the 'British passports they hold become redundant overnight, should be fun at the airports.
We could charge for visa's and introduce strict border controls and I hope to God we refuse any semblance of defence for them, be very interesting what Sturgeon would do when Putin flies bombers over Edinburgh and Glasgow or sails ships off the Scottish coast.
Yep they can go with the price of their so called money harvester being half what they reckoned and the growing clamour to 'leave it in the ground'.

[TANGODANCER]

be very interesting what Sturgeon would do when Putin flies bombers over Edinburgh and Glasgow or sails ships off the Scottish coast.

Except of course if Putin forms a Russian/ Scottish alliance. Interesting might not be the right term then.

[Hoboh]

be very interesting what Sturgeon would do when Putin flies bombers over Edinburgh and Glasgow or sails ships off the Scottish coast.

Except of course if Putin forms a Russian/ Scottish alliance. Interesting might not be the right term then.

we'd end up with Ukraine 2!

[thebish]

We could charge for visa's and introduce strict border controls and I hope to God we refuse any semblance of defence for them, be very interesting what Sturgeon would do when Putin flies bombers over Edinburgh and Glasgow or sails ships off the Scottish coast.

why - what did the UK govt do when Putin buzzed us with his planes? owt interesting? remind me... Did we nuke him? (I can't remember..)

[Hoboh]

We could charge for visa's and introduce strict border controls and I hope to God we refuse any semblance of defence for them, be very interesting what Sturgeon would do when Putin flies bombers over Edinburgh and Glasgow or sails ships off the Scottish coast.

why - what did the UK govt do when Putin buzzed us with his planes? owt interesting? remind me... Did we nuke him? (I can't remember..)

We followed them with Typhoons with which to shoot them down or force them to land if they violated our airspace.
What would wee Krankie do?

[Hoboh]

Not very nice taking the micky out of your fried mars bar eating constituents!

[Beefheart]

Can't help but think Hoboh might have a thing for Nicola Sturgeon. Like how kids are mean to girls they fancy at school.

[Hoboh]

Can't help but think Hoboh might have a thing for Nicola Sturgeon. Like how kids are mean to girls they fancy at school.

You'd be miles from the truth

[Hoboh]

“Look,” he continued. “I know I’ve made mistakes. But I’ve learned from them and I promise to do better.”

It’s not you, it’s me.

“But this is a career-defining election ...” Cameron’s lip moistened as he realised his mistake and hurriedly tried to correct himself. “I mean, a country-defining election.”

[Hoboh]

Actually found this hilarious, since when have we had any influence over Europe, 1945?

[bobo the clown]

So, Mili thinks he's Moses now !!



Who the fck advises him. It's like Siobhan Sharpe from W1A runs his PR campaign.

[Montreal Wanderer]

So, Mili thinks he's Moses now !!



Who the fck advises him. It's like Siobhan Sharpe from W1A runs his PR campaign.

I don't understand the poster at all - I guess I'm too far removed from the nuances of UK politics.

[Hoboh]

I wonder why, given UKIP are a non-entity, Labour officials who came round this morning dropped off leaflets attacking UKIP saying they, not the Tories, wanted to destroy the NHS?
Reckon they know who the main oppo is round here!
Was funny when he asked the wife if she was voting Labour and she exclaimed, 'what for Morris and his muckers'

[bobo the clown]

So, Mili thinks he's Moses now !!



Who the fck advises him. It's like Siobhan Sharpe from W1A runs his PR campaign.

I don't understand the poster at all - I guess I'm too far removed from the nuances of UK politics.

It's not a poster. It's an 8' slab of marble with his immutable intentions in office. He plans to erect it in the garden at 10 Downing Street if the great unwashed decide to let him have the keys.

... except he can't as he'll need planning permission which it's been confirmed he wouldn't get.

[Prufrock]

I'm pretty sure that's ^ not the right one.

That's been hilariously edited by a wag.

[bobo the clown]

Then here's the real one. I hink the various spoof one say more tbh.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ke-a-stone" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

.... & this is in the Grauniad.

[TANGODANCER]

They forgot No 7, "Parting the waters to allow the millions to enter the promised land". Oh, sorry, Channel Tunnel.....

[bobo the clown]

They forgot No 7, "Parting the waters to allow the millions to enter the promised land". Oh, sorry, Channel Tunnel.....

That will come under the "Immigration Controls" one I think.

Like all of them so floppy and imprecise that they can't be missed.

OF COURSE THERE WILL BE IMMIGRATION CONTROLS !!

Just what controls and to what affect they've sort of not gone into.