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Loss of expenses

Post by boltonboris » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:11 pm

I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?

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Re: Loss of expenses

Post by TANGODANCER » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:26 pm

boltonboris wrote:I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?
Knowing company expense procedures, I think you might have problems Boris. Could you not list the expense receipts as stolen property on the insurance claim? Either way, I think you'll have to wait that month and provide proof unless you have a very understanding accounts department, a rare item indeed. :(
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:35 pm

TANGODANCER wrote:Knowing company expense procedures, I think you might have problems Boris. Could you not list the expense receipts as stolen property on the insurance claim? Either way, I think you'll have to wait that month and provide proof unless you have a very understanding accounts department, a rare item indeed. :(
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Re: Loss of expenses

Post by communistworkethic » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:36 pm

boltonboris wrote:I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?
tough one but if you paid on debit or credit card then you should be able to see what you spent and where. The problem is on specificity - essentially you could have bought anything at those places depending where they were. They're unlikely to accept them as the tax man won't.

Best thing to do is claim on your insurance for the maximum amount of cash covered by the policy, usually £250 or £500.
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Re: Loss of expenses

Post by boltonboris » Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:39 pm

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boltonboris wrote:I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?
tough one but if you paid on debit or credit card then you should be able to see what you spent and where. The problem is on specificity - essentially you could have bought anything at those places depending where they were. They're unlikely to accept them as the tax man won't.

Best thing to do is claim on your insurance for the maximum amount of cash covered by the policy, usually £250 or £500.
It was on a Solo debit card, so not sure if I'm covered - anybody know?

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Post by bobo the clown » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:34 pm

communistworkethic wrote:tough one but if you paid on debit or credit card then you should be able to see what you spent and where. The problem is on specificity - essentially you could have bought anything at those places depending where they were. They're unlikely to accept them as the tax man won't.

Best thing to do is claim on your insurance for the maximum amount of cash covered by the policy, usually £250 or £500.
What he said.

If you can get copies, that will do it. Otherwise you're at their mercy. (& God bless you !!)

Alternative is, as said, add it to the robbery claim.
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Re: Loss of expenses

Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:35 pm

boltonboris wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
boltonboris wrote:I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?
tough one but if you paid on debit or credit card then you should be able to see what you spent and where. The problem is on specificity - essentially you could have bought anything at those places depending where they were. They're unlikely to accept them as the tax man won't.

Best thing to do is claim on your insurance for the maximum amount of cash covered by the policy, usually £250 or £500.
It was on a Solo debit card, so not sure if I'm covered - anybody know?
How come you're shelling out by way of your own personal debit card on company expenses?
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:41 pm

It happens, Bruce

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Post by Bruce Rioja » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:57 pm

CAPSLOCK wrote:It happens, Bruce

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Debit card, though? I buy the car fuel on my own Visa and then charge it back to the company at pence per mile. As such, Az claimed mi brass back fust!

What we're looking at here is the fella shelling out his own hard earned first off, with seemingly nowt by way of recourse! :conf:
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Post by CAPSLOCK » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:01 am

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Post by Worthy4England » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:04 am

You could e-mail Joof, he is saying he's having similar problems on reimbursement of expenses with Senegal - perhaps he could give you good advise? (sorry that you lost em btw)

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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:02 am

Make a mental note of the outstanding amount. Screw it out of your bastard employer by false claims and dodgy receipts over the next six months.

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Post by enfieldwhite » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:09 am

Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Make a mental note of the outstanding amount. Screw it out of your bastard employer by false claims and dodgy receipts over the next six months.

Twice.

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Re: Loss of expenses

Post by communistworkethic » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:10 am

boltonboris wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
boltonboris wrote:I left my wallet at a friends house which was last night broekn into, my wallet being one of the things taken. I have a load of expense receipts in there amounting to a couple of hundred quid, which my comapny has said, If I don't show them receipts I don't het the money, is there anyway I'm covered without copies of them? My mate has been giving a crime reference number and reported my wallet as a stolen item. I know I can get bank statements to cover prove this but it'll probably put me back a month in claiming.

Any thoughts as to what I could possibly do?
tough one but if you paid on debit or credit card then you should be able to see what you spent and where. The problem is on specificity - essentially you could have bought anything at those places depending where they were. They're unlikely to accept them as the tax man won't.

Best thing to do is claim on your insurance for the maximum amount of cash covered by the policy, usually £250 or £500.
It was on a Solo debit card, so not sure if I'm covered - anybody know?
no you're not per se.

Your home insuance will probably cover the loss of your wallet and contents, just claim the maximum allowed for cash in the wallet, that'll see you right.
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Post by communistworkethic » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:14 am

Bruce Rioja wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:It happens, Bruce

Trust me
Debit card, though? I buy the car fuel on my own Visa and then charge it back to the company at pence per mile. As such, Az claimed mi brass back fust!

What we're looking at here is the fella shelling out his own hard earned first off, with seemingly nowt by way of recourse! :conf:
but it's not just petrol people might have as an expense, food, train tickets, taxis for example. Taxis are a big one if you're in london, unless you're part of a company contract you'll be paying in cash and claiming back. And not everyone is lucky enough to have company credit cards either.

Most company expenses are paid for by the individual and claimed back with evidence of a receipt.
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Post by CrazyHorse » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:14 am

communistworkethic wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:It happens, Bruce

Trust me
Debit card, though? I buy the car fuel on my own Visa and then charge it back to the company at pence per mile. As such, Az claimed mi brass back fust!

What we're looking at here is the fella shelling out his own hard earned first off, with seemingly nowt by way of recourse! :conf:
but it's not just petrol people might have as an expense, food, train tickets, taxis for example. Taxis are a big one if you're in london, unless you're part of a company contract you'll be paying in cash and claiming back. And not everyone is lucky enough to have company credit cards either.

Most company expenses are paid for by the individual and claimed back with evidence of a receipt.
Aye, thats how I've always had to do it. I thought that was the norm. :?
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Post by Dave Sutton's barnet » Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:55 am

CrazyHorse wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:It happens, Bruce

Trust me
Debit card, though? I buy the car fuel on my own Visa and then charge it back to the company at pence per mile. As such, Az claimed mi brass back fust!

What we're looking at here is the fella shelling out his own hard earned first off, with seemingly nowt by way of recourse! :conf:
but it's not just petrol people might have as an expense, food, train tickets, taxis for example. Taxis are a big one if you're in london, unless you're part of a company contract you'll be paying in cash and claiming back. And not everyone is lucky enough to have company credit cards either.

Most company expenses are paid for by the individual and claimed back with evidence of a receipt.
Aye, thats how I've always had to do it. I thought that was the norm. :?
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Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:17 am

enfieldwhite wrote:
Zulus Thousand of em wrote:Make a mental note of the outstanding amount. Screw it out of your bastard employer by false claims and dodgy receipts over the next six months.

Twice.

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Post by Montreal Wanderer » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:04 pm

Dave Sutton's barnet wrote:
CrazyHorse wrote:
communistworkethic wrote:
Bruce Rioja wrote:
CAPSLOCK wrote:It happens, Bruce

Trust me
Debit card, though? I buy the car fuel on my own Visa and then charge it back to the company at pence per mile. As such, Az claimed mi brass back fust!

What we're looking at here is the fella shelling out his own hard earned first off, with seemingly nowt by way of recourse! :conf:
but it's not just petrol people might have as an expense, food, train tickets, taxis for example. Taxis are a big one if you're in london, unless you're part of a company contract you'll be paying in cash and claiming back. And not everyone is lucky enough to have company credit cards either.

Most company expenses are paid for by the individual and claimed back with evidence of a receipt.
Aye, thats how I've always had to do it. I thought that was the norm. :?
Same for us, and it can take two or three months. "You don't like it? Then leave."
Same over here, although it usually only takes a week after you file. I would think that most companies would eventually reimburse in this situation after some paperwork - perhaps an affidavit, sworn or otherwise might do. Mind you, leaving your wallet in a friend's house right before the burglary sounds a tad suspicious to me. :wink:
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Post by jaffka » Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:06 pm

I think that there was a recent change in HM Custom rules that all expense claims had to be furnished with a relevant receipt. IIRC this rule change was due to EC law.

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