The Politics Thread

[BWFC_Insane]

Latest YouGov poll shows that among the over-65s, the people who actually vote, May leads Corbyn 72%-8%.

Of voters who voted Labour in last general election only 41% think Corbyn is the best PM out of the main party leaders...scary.

[Lord Kangana]

Theresa May's apparent plan to trigger Art 50 is very dodge IMO. Parliament is sovereign and it's dangerous constitutional dice to be dicking about with that.

Presumably they're desperate to get their hands on the £350m a week (please don't laugh at or scrutinise this, it'd spoil the punchline) to make up for the £500m a week cuts they're proposing to the NHS.

[Worthy4England]

Theresa May's apparent plan to trigger Art 50 is very dodge IMO. Parliament is sovereign and it's dangerous constitutional dice to be dicking about with that.

Presumably they're desperate to get their hands on the £350m a week (please don't laugh at or scrutinise this, it'd spoil the punchline) to make up for the £500m a week cuts they're proposing to the NHS.

Hey, but if they did that, they'd be able to con a load of gullible fckrs into thinking they'd put the money in, even though it never existed. The public would NEVER fall for that, surely....

[Bruce Rioja]

Steve Hughes on Being Offended.

[Lord Kangana]

Melania Trump vs The Daily Mail.

I pity the Judge, jury and legal teams who'll have to try and drag a shred of truth out of those two sets of shysters.

[Prufrock]

Is this the first time people will be rooting for the lawyers??

[Lord Kangana]

Only time!

[Hoboh]

Is this the first time people will be rooting for the lawyers??

No chance, just think of the legal bills.

[Bijou Bob]

Is this the first time people will be rooting for the lawyers??

To be fair, I rooted for your transfer thread...................even though its probably the first and last time you'll provide such a great result without slapping someone with a humungous bill

[Prufrock]

Um...yeah about that...you see that donate button at the top of the page...

[Bijou Bob]

Is this where you tell us that actually it's your senior partner who completed the work and as a result, the bill is 300 times higher than forecast for the 9 months continuous work that went into the thread?

[Montreal Wanderer]

Is this the first time people will be rooting for the lawyers??

Legal question, Pru. Can a Montgomery County, Maryland, Court, enforce a judgment against the Daily Mail?

[Lord Kangana]

Cross border cooperation is much higher these days Monty. No-one wants other people's criminals on their doorsteps.

Having said that, the Daily Mail will no doubt be running headlines for free speech and freedom of the press over the coming weeks, interspersed with Editorials devoted to how Brexit meant Brexit precisely for this reason (don't even go there) and that plucky Britain won't be pushed around by johnny foreigner anymore. And it will somehow manage to pin the blame on Brussels bureaucrats.

I hope she rinses the f*ck out of them. And then her husband loses.

[Montreal Wanderer]

Cross border cooperation is much higher these days Monty. No-one wants other people's criminals on their doorsteps.

Having said that, the Daily Mail will no doubt be running headlines for free speech and freedom of the press over the coming weeks, interspersed with Editorials devoted to how Brexit meant Brexit precisely for this reason (don't even go there) and that plucky Britain won't be pushed around by johnny foreigner anymore. And it will somehow manage to pin the blame on Brussels bureaucrats.

I hope she rinses the f*ck out of them. And then her husband loses.

Well, the complaint is filed in Montgomery County because the co-defendant, blogger Webster G. Tarpley, lives there. It can be found here.. In reading this I would say Webster might in trouble, but the Mail made it clear they were quoting other sources. Both defendants published retractions after being contacted by Melania's lawyers - does this mitigate against damages?

[Prufrock]

I don't know lots about defamation law and much less about US law but a few thoughts:

1) re: justification, usually with defamation you can sue in any jurisdiction something was "published". That's a v wide definition and in the days of the internet especially so.

3) re: enforcement I guess it will hinge on how the DM is structured as a company, however being inexplicably one of the biggest news sites globally I'd be very surprised if it didn't have assets it the US to enforce against.

3) it's probably worth noting that the Donald has a spectacularly shit record at suing people.

[Montreal Wanderer]

I don't know lots about defamation law and much less about US law but a few thoughts:

1) re: justification, usually with defamation you can sue in any jurisdiction something was "published". That's a v wide definition and in the days of the internet especially so.

3) re: enforcement I guess it will hinge on how the DM is structured as a company, however being inexplicably one of the biggest news sites globally I'd be very surprised if it didn't have assets it the US to enforce against.

3) it's probably worth noting that the Donald has a spectacularly shit record at suing people.

Re the first 3) (what happened to 2)?) - she is suing the Mail Online. It can be accessed in Maryland but hard to determine the specific venue where it is published (though the website has a co.uk in it).

[Prufrock]

Hey, I know less still about maths!

As I say publish is an extremely wide definition when it comes to the internet. Essentially I think that if you can read it in America then it has been published in America.

[Worthy4England]

^^ I think the Sunday Sport should run an article saying she's Mexican (with appropriate pictures inside on pages 7, 9, 11 & 13)

[Hoboh]

Keith Vaz !

Can none of them keep their dicks in their trousers?

[bobo the clown]

Keith Vaz !

Can none of them keep their dicks in their trousers?

He's ALWAYS been one slippery fecker.