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Who will you be voting for?

Labour
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41%
Conservatives
12
38%
Liberal Democrats
2
6%
UK Independence Party (UKIP)
0
No votes
Green Party
3
9%
Plaid Cymru
0
No votes
Other
1
3%
Planet Hobo
1
3%
 
Total votes: 32

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Re: The Politics Thread

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Worthy4England » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:06 pm

thebish wrote:meanwhile - in Toryland - still a wee while out, but here's the current runners and riders list!

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In the same spirit that some wags might have joined labour and voted for Corbyn, I think the Michael Gove supporters club should be ready to launch.... :twisted:

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Zulus Thousand of em » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:30 am

thebish wrote:meanwhile - in Toryland - still a wee while out, but here's the current runners and riders list!

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Difference being, the Conservatives are capable of organising their own party leadership succession unlike the Labour Party.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:31 pm

Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:45 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
Burnham is a fool, it's the tricks of social engineering like his party practises along with the EU and others that has led to the rise of nationalism.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:27 pm

bobo the clown wrote:Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
I don't see what is contradictory there. He says he will fight nationalism across the board. As opposed to the Tories who played off one set of nationalists against another for their own ends.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:36 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
I don't see what is contradictory there. He says he will fight nationalism across the board. As opposed to the Tories who played off one set of nationalists against another for their own ends.
... or that he criticises the Tory view against Scots nationalism but will oppose the whole concept of Nationalism anywhere ... except where the Tories do it because that's just wrong.

.... no. I don't suppose you do.
Not advocating mass-murder as an entirely positive experience, of course, but it had its moments.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:25 pm

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:56 pm

bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
I don't see what is contradictory there. He says he will fight nationalism across the board. As opposed to the Tories who played off one set of nationalists against another for their own ends.
... or that he criticises the Tory view against Scots nationalism but will oppose the whole concept of Nationalism anywhere ... except where the Tories do it because that's just wrong.

.... no. I don't suppose you do.
If you take the sentence in isolation maybe. But it is clear what he means and quite explicit in the final part of the full quote.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:36 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:
BWFC_Insane wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:Andy Burnham doesn't even wait until the next day to come out with hypocritcal statements nowadays...

https://www.politicshome.com/party-poli ... -i-find-it" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He will 'fight nationalism wherever he finds it' - good, a solid policy. The evil Tories used 'English nationalism and openly stoked resentment of Scottish Nationalism'.

Wait, which is it? Do you hate nationalism or are some nationalisms not as bad as others? Is Scottish nationalism to be praised whilst english denigrated?
I don't see what is contradictory there. He says he will fight nationalism across the board. As opposed to the Tories who played off one set of nationalists against another for their own ends.
... or that he criticises the Tory view against Scots nationalism but will oppose the whole concept of Nationalism anywhere ... except where the Tories do it because that's just wrong.

.... no. I don't suppose you do.
If you take the sentence in isolation maybe. But it is clear what he means and quite explicit in the final part of the full quote.
In a few days I don't think he will be in a position to fight anything, crawling away from the public view would be more apt.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:11 pm

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:47 pm

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Just don't post on the guardian comments asking how many she and her left bollock are taking in and supporting.
That got me put on the naughty step!!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Prufrock » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:49 pm

As many as you, you daft bastard. It's not a French exchange programme.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:50 pm

There is absolutely nothing 'leaderish' about her. She looks and sounds like a girl from the Upper 6th at a school debate.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:50 pm

Hoboh wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Just don't post on the guardian comments asking how many she and her left bollock are taking in and supporting.
That got me put on the naughty step!!
Are you surprised that a pointless and facile comment like that got you banned or had your post removed?

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by BWFC_Insane » Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:51 pm

bobo the clown wrote:There is absolutely nothing 'leaderish' about her. She looks and sounds like a girl from the Upper 6th at a school debate.
Probably about as good as a girl from the Upper 6th too. She is the embodiment of Labour's failure IMO. Lightweights playing at politics.

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Bijou Bob » Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:59 pm

bobo the clown wrote:There is absolutely nothing 'leaderish' about her. She looks and sounds like a girl from the Upper 6th at a school debate.
You would though. I know you would.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by bobo the clown » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:33 pm

Bijou Bob wrote:
bobo the clown wrote:There is absolutely nothing 'leaderish' about her. She looks and sounds like a girl from the Upper 6th at a school debate.
You would though. I know you would.
No. No ... really, no.

Cameron's Mrs. But not that.
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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:48 pm

Prufrock wrote:As many as you, you daft bastard. It's not a French exchange programme.
Right well she should keep her bloody trap shut, after all what the fcuk has she done to oppose the attack on the sick and disabled?
In fact come to think of it where was labours pledge to repeal cuts of these sorts?
So she can fcuk off spending money on migrants!

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Re: The Politics Thread

Post by Hoboh » Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:51 pm

BWFC_Insane wrote:
Hoboh wrote:
Prufrock wrote:
Just don't post on the guardian comments asking how many she and her left bollock are taking in and supporting.
That got me put on the naughty step!!
Are you surprised that a pointless and facile comment like that got you banned or had your post removed?
I actually said,

"Well how many are you going to let crash at one of your pads Coops?"

Hardly a hanging offence except maybe for being a lousy jokey type answer!

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